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Recieved: 1999/10/30  07:55  
Subject: [K-list] The Genetic Innocent 
From: Christopher Wynter
  
On 1999/10/30  07:55, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list: 
The following article which appeared on another list, and which I have checked out the references to, 
adds weight and support to the deep memory results that are coming up out of the bodies of 
my group here in Tasmania.
 
It would seem that this validates the focus and the direction of all of the 
work that I have been doing here in Tasmania for the last 7 years ... that 
underneath the mutations and the forgetting, that we really are innocent ..
 
the question that I ask my people is "what is it that separates us from what 
we already are"
 
and that, if we can get out of our heads and stop the debate .. and listen 
to our bodies, 
the truth of our essence lies therein ..
 
not in some mental imagery or teacing or dogman or doctrine or religion
 
What follows is just another piece of the mounting genetic evidence to 
support the direction I have taken.
 
Christopher Wynter 
Hobart Tasmania 
wynterATnospambigpond.com
 
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by Lindsey Arent 
3:00 a.m. 28.Oct.99.PDT
 
They say men are from Mars and women are from Venus. But new research 
indicates that the two were at one time genetically identical. 
Scientists studying genes on the X and Y chromosomes have concluded that the 
biological element that determines sex in humans evolved from a pair of 
identical chromosomes hundreds of millions of years ago.
 
"We're reporting a timeline by which this perfectly ordinary matched pair of 
chromosomes evolved into today's X and Y," said researcher David Page of the 
Howard Hughes Medical Institute at the Whitehead Institute for Biomedical 
Research. "The X is now bigger than the Y and it carries more genes. But 300 
million years ago, they were essentially identical."
 
Scientists have long believed that the events that led to the creation of 
sex chromosomes occurred about 170 million years ago. But Page and co-author 
Bruce Lahn of the University of Chicago report in the 29 October issue of 
Science that it may have occurred 240 million to 320 million years ago.
 
For more than a decade, scientists have been on a quest to understand how 
sex is determined during fetal development -- that is, why an embryo that 
carries two X chromosomes is female and one that carries an X and a Y is a 
male.
 
But Page and his team wanted to broaden the scope of the inquiry. 
"We wanted to know how did this system come to be during evolution," Page 
said. "How was this system put in place originally?" By studying a series of 
XY gene pairs in much the same way that geologists study fossils, Page was 
able to craft a timeline of the evolution of X and Y chromosomes.
 
"After a while, we realized that the XY genes were sorting themselves out 
according to their evolutionary age, and when we thought about this question 
we realized that the genes were shouting at us about the history of the sex 
chromosome."
 
Long ago, in addition to XX and XY, organisms that were the ancestors of 
humans carried other non-sex chromosomes in matched pairs called autosomes, 
Page explained. The X and Y evolved from what was a perfectly ordinary 
matched pair of chromosomes, but today's X and Y look different from one 
another.
 
"The X chromosome retained all of the genes of the ancestral chromosome, but 
the Y has lost virtually all of the genes that it once shared with X," Page 
said. "We know of 19 genes that they both still share, and we think they are 
remnants of the ancestral gene."  By studying the few shared genes on the Y 
chromosome that remain today, and by comparing the genes that are common to 
the X and Y, Page and his team were able to measure the amount of time that 
has passed since the gene pairs were identical.
 
"We found all of the XY gene pairs and looked at them as a group and found 
that the pattern and flow of the sex chromosome evolution became obvious 
when we had them lined up."
 
"We now recognize that these shared genes are a kind of living fossil," Page 
said. "It's through the study of today's human X and Y that we can 
reconstruct their past," he said.  "It's a kind of molecular 
archaeology.We're not looking at bones or fossils or even other species, 
we're just looking within ourselves."
 
http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,1282,32156,00.html 
The History of Sex 
by Lindsey Arent
 
 
 
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