To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/10/29  08:46  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Conversation With A Psychologist 
From: David Bozzi
  
On 1999/10/29  08:46, David Bozzi posted thus to the K-list: 
Hi Adele (you wrote)
 
>    Bit by bit, sentence by sentence, I had to delineate and 
> take apart and look at my thinking patterns.  Then I had to look 
> at the fact there were other ways of seeing the same thing, and in not such a 
> negative fashion. 
>    By the way, this process is exactly what Buddhist 
> Meditation 
> does; you are taught to slow down the thinking processes to 
> a 
> point you can see their cause and effect.
 
Sort of. Isn't Buddhist meditation less active though? I see that meditation is about 
slowing the mind's activity through awareness, but doesn't it usually just end/begin there?
 
When we are experiencing negative energy we are conditioned to give a reason why. 
To explain it. I suggest that this very explaining perpetuates the negativity. Energy 
balances when we realize that we honestly really don't know why the energy is 
coming through us in a particular way. We simply need to nurture awareness in 
our 'not-knowing'.
 
>    At first I was very negative about the process!  Small 
> wonder. 
> I spent the first part of my life, for whatever reason, 
> training 
> my mind to be negative. It was going to take just as long 
> to unravel the thinking-mess.
 
I agree. But thank god it's not necessary to unravel each and every knot under our 
puny intellectual scrutiny. That would take many lifetimes!
 
>    I also observed how I assumed a lot about what other 
> people thought, 
> did, said.  Not only did I do that, but then I assumed the 
> outcome 
> of what I assumed they were thinking; in short I took what 
> I THOUGHT THEY WERE THINKING as reality, ....and then acted 
> upon 
> that .  I had to stop doing that.  After all, we really 
> don't 
> know what goes on in another's mind and heart.
 
Ah, nor anywhere in fact. And that is the key.
 
>    Once I started to retrain the tape-recorder of my 
> brain....I 
> found (very slightly at first) my depression lifting.
 
>From your 'retraining' or the natural tendency for energy to balance in the 
gentle light of awareness?
 
(snip)
 
> I experience the whole gamut of emotions...but they are 
> regulated; no more the emotional roller-coaster rides I used to take.
 
Well I'm happy for you. 
You are devoted to nurturing awareness which delivers balance.
 
>    Now, I'm not saying all depressed people would benefit 
> from cognitive therapy.  But for me, it was just wonderful.  I 
> only went through the therapy a few short years.  What I learned 
> in those years, I could apply to my own thinking patterns to 
> lift myself out of the depression.
 
It seems you made the best of it by emphasizing the awareness aspect. I believe *most* 
psychologists err by emphasizing the explaining of problems. The way cognitive therapy was 
presented to 
me was an emphasis on explaining and projecting the source 
of our feelings onto outward sources. (ie 'I feel bad because my parents didn't love me')
 
Circumstances are... well, circumstantial, at best. : )
 
The deepest healing, cleansing occurs in the 'not-knowing'.
 
Stay Balanced, 
David
 
 
 
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