To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/10/29  04:00  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Conversation With A Psychologist 
From: Adele Chatelain
  
On 1999/10/29  04:00, Adele Chatelain posted thus to the K-list: 
Hi, David, 
   You brought up an interesting point re: psychotherapy and 
depression. 
   I believe the psychotherapist you spoke to was referring 
to 
'cognitive thereapy'.  Actually, speaking for experience, 
there's 
a good reason for using 'thinking' to get some people out of 
their depression. 
   When I was about 13 to the age of 25 I suffered from 
severe 
depression.  Back then, there were no drugs to help anyone 
out 
of depression.  Looking back on it, I'm very glad there 
wasn't, 
although I certainly was suicidal.  ( I have to say I'm 53 
years 
old, now, so you can put this statement in perspective). 
   Anyway, my problem was in my thinking patterns.  I looked 
at events in my life as 'half empty' rather than 'half 
full'. 
In short, my thinking was negative (I saw the negative in 
everything), 
and consequently, I was very cynical. And if anyone told me 
that 
(that I looked at things negatively, I'd find reasons why 
the 
event/thing WAS negative!  No one could pry me out of that 
self- 
destructive way of looking at life).
 
   Bit by bit, sentence by sentence, I had to delineate and 
take 
apart and look at my thinking patterns.  Then I had to look 
at the fact there were 
other ways of seeing the same thing, and in not such a 
negative 
fashion. 
   By the way, this process is exactly what Buddhist 
Meditation 
does; you are taught to slow down the thinking processes to 
a 
point you can see their cause and effect. 
   At first I was very negative about the process!  Small 
wonder. 
I spent the first part of my life, for whatever reason, 
training 
my mind to be negative. It was going to take just as long 
to unravel the thinking-mess. 
   I also observed how I assumed a lot about what other 
people thought, 
did, said.  Not only did I do that, but then I assumed the 
outcome 
of what I assumed they were thinking; in short I took what  
I THOUGHT THEY WERE THINKING as reality, ....and then acted 
upon 
that .  I had to stop doing that.  After all, we really 
don't 
know what goes on in another's mind and heart.
 
   Once I started to retrain the tape-recorder of my 
brain....I 
found (very slightly at first) my depression lifting.
 
   By the time I was 25 years old, the depression was 
totally lifted.Now, 
I have to do certain things, in addition to looking at my 
thoughts, 
however (and that was part of the 'thinking' process, too).  
For 
example, I make sure I eat three meals a day to keep my 
sugar 
and electrolyte levels stable.  I make certain I get enough 
sleep. 
I  make certain I take time, every day, for MYSELF, as well 
as for others.  And I 
meditate every day. And I don't drink any alcohol.
 
   I haven't had a depression episode since.  However, when 
I 
turned 40, everyone around me warned me of menopausal 
depression. 
I never got it. I am convinced it's because my thinking 
process 
is now, finally HEALTHY.  Yes, I still get sad---that's 
normal--- 
but no longer depressed. And because I no longer get 
depressed, 
I experience the whole gamut of emotions...but they are 
regulated; 
no more the emotional roller-coaster rides I used to take.
 
   Now, I'm not saying all depressed people would benefit 
from 
cognitive therapy.  But for me, it was just wonderful.  I 
only 
went through the therapy a few short years.  What I learned 
in 
those years, I could apply to my own thinking patterns to 
lift 
myself out of the depression.
 
Cognitive therapy combined with Buddhist meditation is 
about 
the healthiest thing I ever did in my life.  I can now 
weather 
emotional storms both from the outside (from others) and 
from 
my own creating! :-)
 
 Anyway....Lots of special hugs to those of whom are 
plagued 
with depression.  
 
Love, 
Adele
 
 
 
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