To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/10/15 10:03
Subject: Re: [K-list] Beware of breathing
From: Ville Vainio
On 1999/10/15 10:03, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list:
On Fri, 15 Oct 1999 MHortlingATnospamaol.com wrote:
> Beside the possibly harmful bodily side effects of this method, it seems too
> manipulative and ego-centered to me, i.e. there's too much controlling and
> forceful rearrangement of bodily functions and too little abandon. What seems
This is something that really doesn't go with k. For me, even mantras feel
too forceful. When I meditate, I simply fall in trance for 5 or so minutes
(possibly even thinking of something instead of focusing/clearing - those
things are not necessary anymore to ensure a trance state), after which I
come out of it and let k take its own route, knowing that it has been
"fed" a little bit again, and it has become more powerful. I have found
this method to be very useful and the lightest possible (I don't know how
to perform hatha yoga).
> to work best (for me at least) within the kundalini process, is to try to
> smooth the way for the energy as far as possible and then to let go and say :
> OK Ma, this whole life, body and mind is made out of YOURSELF and you're the
> boss - do whatever needs to be done, you as cosmic intelligence and lifeforce
> know best...
Sounds something like my method: "there is no me, there is no kundalini,
what will happen will happen". Helps to undermine the ego-resistance that
likes to create counter-kundalini images/ideas in the mind ("who are
you?"). It's a bit like giving the rudder fully to the central nervous
system, instead of insisting that "I" (ego) have to have the controls
(something many of the "yogis" seem to have preferred: jump around the
block twice, breathe 3-2-3-5, chant "ganthhhhhhhhhh". Please pay on the
counter).
> Hatha-yoga (including a little bit of light and CAREFUL pranayama) are good
I don't know what qualifies as pranayama, but I have seen that gently
slowing down the breath, and observing (not counting!) the inhalation and
exhalation are usefull methods every now and then.
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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