To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/10/15  04:01  
Subject: [K-list] mind and Mind 
From: Zala
  
On 1999/10/15  04:01, Zala posted thus to the K-list: 
<<Hmm... to me it only proves that sound can affect mind, which creates 
the 
perception of chakras.>>
 
I find it absolutely awesome to sense that, not only does mind create  
perception of chakras but it actually creates perception of everything 
else  
as well! There's absolutely nothing "out there" - everything is within the  
mind - the whole universe and everything in it is mind - there is only 
mind  
and That which perceives - consciousness and the contents of consciousness 
-  
Shiva & Shakti - 
 
ZZZZ: To a large extent this is correct, but relies on the fallacy of 
everything being Maya.  The better/rational approach is to suggest that 
Everything is Cosmic Consciousness (Shiva), but due to it qualification 
into multiplicity by the Creative Force *Shakti* of that Consciousness 
there are multiple expressions or unit minds in the Cosmos.  Microcosm 
within Macrocosm.  While to the Cosmic Consciousness noting can be outside 
it, to the unit mind or Microcosm, its senses something outside because of 
the limitation of its perception or intuitive ability.  However, once it 
evolves on the spiritual path that unit feeling is merging in Cosmic 
Consciousness and so Yoga of Self- Unity with the Infinitie - is obtained 
and unit existence ceases due to its liberation/salvation or mukti/moksa.
 
By attaining self knowledge, one attains 
salvation. What is salvation? People use words like moksa 
(salvation) and mukti (liberation) very casually. Some say 
moksa, some nirvana, some mahanirvana, some 
mahaparinirvana'. But what does it all mean? 
 
There are 
various kinds of bondages on each level of human society 
linguistic, social, economic etc. Mukti means the state of 
liberation from all these bondages. When one attains 
liberation of a permanent nature it is called `vimukti' or 
`moksa' or `salvation'. If one attains liberation without 
all the reactive momenta being exhausted one will have to 
return. That is, after 
exhausting one's acquired karma, one imbibes a new set 
of karma. In a long life a person both acquires virtue 
and commits sin. One who acquires virtue enjoys the fruits 
thereof in the supra mental level. That is what is called 
`heaven' or `svarga'. There is no separate world named 
heaven or svarga. When one's virtue is exhausted, when the 
requital of one's acquired karma (or rather samskaras) is over, one is 
born on earth to serve the unrequited samskaras. And according to 
the nature of the samskaras imbibed, one may be reborn as a 
dog, or one may also get a human life. Heaven is the stage 
between the two lives lived as human beings. No-one acquires 
heaven permanently because no one acquires infinite virtue - 
that is a mere figment of the imagination. 
 
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The idea that this might possibly NOT be so is just that - only another  
perception and concept within consciousness...
 
It's only 11 in the morning and I'm already freaking out, better go and do  
some dishes...
 
Greetings from inner space
 
Michael
 
 
 
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