To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/10/13  16:12  
Subject: Re:  Re: [K-list] Lost mantras due to ineffectiveness 
From: Mhortling
  
On 1999/10/13  16:12, Mhortling posted thus to the K-list: 
 
<<and yes, I've found that 
Kundalini can be raised in that way, without the 
aid of a 'master', however it's a VERY dangerous 
way to go about doing it. The master is there for 
a reason---to guide you (and, consequently, the Kundalini). 
>>
 
Hi Adele, Zala and everybody else working with mantras !
 
I've found that using mantras has a powerful & beneficial effect  even though  
I've never had  formal inititation with a charged mantra from a "real" guru.  
Mantra practice seems to focus, still and purify the mind and I believe it is  
mainly for this reason that the movement of the kundalini becomes more  
intense. 
 
If the mind is (pre-)occupied with mundane stuff, worries etc (or just  
grooving along in everyday-mode), in my experience the shakti has a hard time  
moving, it's as if it were stuck and/or scattered on the level of the mind at  
that moment. 
 
Mantra practice is in essence really high-level concentration and maybe one  
could achieve similar results by focussing on some outer object or an inner  
vision (for example, Gopi Krishna's shakti awoke due to intense visualisation  
of a lotus at the top of the head...) 
 
What I find really fascinating  is how the individual chakras can be  
stimulated by using the appropriate mantras for each one - has anybody else  
had any experience with this ? For me this really shows how sound, even in  
its most subtle form affects matter and some of the traditional ideas of how  
mantras were used to ignite fire, cure diseases and snakebite, even change  
the weather, might not be so far-fetched after all.
 
I personally haven't experienced any negative side-effects due to mantra  
practice (maybe it's  because I've suffered from most other possible  
kundalini side effects that using mantras seems to be   more of like a cure  
to me) If I'm missing something or anybody has indeed encountered dangers &  
problems, please let me know?
 
All the best
 
Michael                 MHortlingATnospamaol.com
 
 
 
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