To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/10/05 03:14
Subject: Re: Body movements (was Re: [K-list] K: Agony and Ecstasy
From: Ville Vainio

On Mon, 4 Oct 1999, Wim Borsboom wrote:

> Dear Ville,
> (What does your name mean?)

It's derived from germanic word Willhelm... and Vainio is old-style
finnish for field. In England I would probably be Bill Field.
English-speaking ppl often write my last name as "Vaino", which means
"oppression" in finnish :-).

> It is funny isn't it, even though I don't discount the benfits of yoga as an
> aid to physical health, sitting meditation as being beneficial to stilling
> the mind, visualization as a helpful way to balance (chakra) energies etc.,
> in themselves these don't lead to enlightenment (blah) if something else has
> not taken place. What is that something else?

I tend to think that their original "purpose" is to awaken K, and from
that point on the vehicle is driving itself - meditating if it seems
necessary, doing something else when appropriate, etc.

> I don't see the enlightenment or kundalini process as as a way to reach some
> new stage, like a new evolutionary development. I see it as a way to return
> to one's original self and take it from there, self-regeneration, a life
> restoration process. Thus K gets you 'reborn... and LIVING again', a big

Biologically it might be interpreted as a rediscovery of the spiritual
animal that is not "needed" at current socio-evolutionary state. Perhaps
areas of reptilian brain that we are still carrying around, only in
inactive latent mode? We could go on guessing forever... but I just
recently started to experience different kinds of animal, bestial feelings
of well being I don't normally do.

> the usal meaning of the word sacrifice is gone. This sacrifice comes easy,
> there is no giving up, no merits to be attained... direct action... no
> thinking, no goal...it is always right on... Boddhisattva work. Help ppl.

My feelings exactly... with the addition of realization of the absence of
free will. Even though I see that the Boddhisattva ideal is a "guide" for
us, more than a suggestion to help. Reminder that nirvana=samsara.

Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio
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