To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/09/23  10:36  
Subject: Re: [K-list] ego Was: seemingly stupid questions about K 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
  
On 1999/09/23  10:36, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list: 
At 03:35 PM 9/22/99 , j wang wrote: 
>Hi, Agnelique 
> 
>you wrote: 
> 
>"A lot of the psychic phenomena associated with K, like esp and empathy, are  
>the result of the ego barriers breaking down, and allowing information from  
>the collective to come thru." 
> 
>According to what you wrote, the crumbling of ego comes with or before the  
>psychic ability.  According to the Taoist Eight Bodies theory, the psychic  
>body develope before the phenomena of the ego reaches its full potential  
>and then completely dissolved." 
   I am not sure I understand your question. Most folks don't get full 
blown ESP all at once: they get an incident or an insight here or there, 
dreams, deja Vu and synchronicity.. and gradually the sense becomes reliable. 
  Most folks don't lose the ego all at once, either.. in a higher vibe 
state it is less important, and if they are upset or self conscious, it is 
more active. As ego diminishes, other senses come forth.  
  Most folks associate psychic phenomena with the Third eye, tho empathy 
may be associated with the heart. Whether your ESP awakens early or late in 
your process, partly depends on whether your K-fire is opening the chakras 
from top down or from the bottom up. 
  Every awakening is different.. there are a lot of late night TV psychics 
that have a friendly entity that gives them info, but who don't appear to 
bear much of the other fruits, and other folks who display vast compassion 
and say they have no ESP, like the Dalai Lama. 
 
>  I personally think that Sylvia Brown is  
>quite credible (I may be wrong here too), but she also started a church on  
>her own, which is what I thought as the ego reaches the full potential.   
  Well, the impulse to leadership is not necessarily egoistic. It can be a 
form of service to other. A good leader is in service to the needs of those 
she leads. A lot of brilliant awakened visionaries have been inspired to 
leadership, activism and social change, in order to serve the common good. 
  If one has a talent to inspire others, it is well to follow that talent 
and go where it leads.. surrender to it. Talent and inspiration come from 
Goddess. There is no point to avoiding making use of the talent out of an 
egoistic idea of appearing "spiritual". 
 
>This is also true in many cases of cult culture, the leaders eventually put  
>their own faces onto the Gods they worship. 
   Ah, as a Cult leader of sorts, myself, I can tell you that that 
projection does not always emanate from the leaders. Followers chose 
leaders, not the other way around, like the pup chooses it's master.  
  I am god and so are you.. Christ said it too, but nobody was listening, 
they didn't want to feel their own specialness, so the disciples continued 
to make stories of the one and only son of God. selective hearing. He 
surrendered to the projections, too.. fine have it your way..  I am what 
you think I am. No resistance.  
  Some of my devotees prefer to focus on God in me instead of God in 
themselves.. it frustrates me, sometimes... but mostly I surrender to it, 
accept the projections and trust they will know better, once Shakti has had 
her way with them. In the meantime, their projections make them very 
receptive to the Shakti. It is functional.   
  God is scary: Angels say "fear not".. where there is fear of God there is 
a desire for an intermediary.. so long as there are folks praying for a 
teacher, there will be teachers appearing to mediate between the ego and 
the Self.  
  We get what we pray for.. the Jews prayed for a Messiah, the Germans 
prayed for charismatic leadership.. and Goddess provides. 
 
>  (Some maintain their fullest  
>ego and never reach the enlightenment stage, but that's another subject).   
  Not everyone incarnates for that experience. Some come here to be in the 
illusion, and don't wanna find the way out. 
 
>The difference between the two paradigms is bewildering to me, can you  
>explain it? 
   I dunno...:) Did I explain it? If I didn't, then please rephrase the 
question?  
Blessings..
 
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