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To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/09/21 13:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] seemingly stupid questions about K
From: Martin Thompson


On 1999/09/21 13:18, Martin Thompson posted thus to the K-list:

03:55:29 Tue, 21 Sep 1999
luz . at luz . <luzbugATnospamhotmail.com> writes:
>As for the holocaust, they were reduced to bodies and numbers and it sent
>them crazy most of the time. But that was not because of any internal
>process within them, it was a psychotic and scary state apparatus that did
>it to them. I think it's different to be nothing because you have arrived
>there yourself and are reasonably ok about it, and to be made nothing by
>walking personifications of the death drive...
>
Yes: I think that this applies to a lot of things, not just egolessness.
As Ken Wilber pointed out in The Atman Project, these things can be
viewed as a circle of evolution: you start off in the oceanic state,
without ego, you develop and ego, later you integrate your ego and
return to the oceanic state *with* your ego and all its benefits.
--
Martin Thompson martinATnospamtucana.demon.co.uk
London, UK
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