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Subject: Re: [K-list] Drugs vs. Breath?? 
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In a message dated 9/14/99 11:11:52 PM Eastern Daylight Time,  
dudeATnospamdeepwell.com writes:
 
<< You can sit there all day trying various breathing exercises, and  
meditating until your belly-button drops off, and you will not enter into a  
psychedelic state.The only way to experience a deep life-changing psychedelic  
event, is to ingest a psychedelic substance. >>
 
psychedelic, adj. 1. of or causing extreme changes in the conscious mind, as  
in hallucinations, 2. of or associated with psychedelic drugs.   
Webster's New World Dictionary
 
Dude,
 
I'm here to tell you, as someone who has experienced psychedelic experiences  
with AND without psychedelic drugs, you are not speaking for everyone.   
Conscious breathing, breath control, and even unconscious breathing changes  
(i.e., as in an anxiety attack) can and will act as an agent "causing extreme  
changes in the conscious mind."
 
Conscious breath control vary rarely leads to vomiting, ER visits, or  
permanent psychoses as often as psychedelic drugs.  Alas, conscious breath  
control doesn't seem to enjoy the reputation for absurd hilarity either.  :)
 
Party on! 
Melissa
 
 
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