To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/09/15  07:27  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Was mind altering substances: My Xplanation 
From: Ville Vainio
  
On 1999/09/15  07:27, Ville Vainio posted thus to the K-list: 
On Tue, 14 Sep 1999, j wang wrote:
 
> What you said make sense to me.  The substance users have to go their 
> own way to hit bottom (or reach the sky?) before they will understand 
> why people warn them to stay out of the drugs.  It's the path they 
> choose and they will take the consequence.  It's all their choices.
 
I see that the reason for ppl telling other ppl to avoid drugs is simple. 
It's the way empathy works. When other person is suffering because of 
drugs, we also suffer. However, when other person is enjoying his time on 
drugs, we don't feel anything. He is in his own mind, unreachable by us. 
Big deal. When we average the suffering and ecstasy, we will reach a zero 
or a negative value, even though the drug fiend himself may be on the 
positive side.
 
I have to confess that in the initial phase, when I wasn't too sure about 
my k, I wished that I had just kept using psychedelics, instead of 
meditation. Luckily I'm not there anymore, and later it turned out that k 
was just what I had wanted. Psychedelics are child's play compared to k.
 
Ville Vainio - vvainioATnospamtp.spt.fi    http://www.tp.spt.fi/~vvainio 
 We're all puppets 
 The first step on the path to understanding is seeing the strings
 
 
 
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