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Recieved: 1999/09/14 15:01
Subject: [K-list] Re: [K-List] Some musings on mind-altering substances
From: Alex


On 1999/09/14 15:01, Alex posted thus to the K-list:

 Hello,
  I thought I'd jump in on this one since my K Awakening was
due to my messing with LSD and possibly MDMA.
 Anyway, here's what I've experienced with the different substances:

 MDMA: First strong Psych I ever tried. Effects were mild rush and
slightly lowered inhibitions. No effects of "energy/ecstasy"
whatsoever like with other people. Did more than enough, but all
before my K started acting up, never realizing "it wasn't working
like it's supposed to." Haven't done it since (A while.)

 LSD/Psylocybin: Second strong Psych I've tried, by itself and
combined with MDMA. Effects have always been mild visual
distortions and weird psychic phenomena such as "hearing
people's thoughts." After several "trips," my K started acting up
while I was totally sober, and had been sober for a while. After my
K had awakened, I tried meditating while under its mild, "coming
off" influence once and as I cruised the far corridors of my mind, I
came across several yellow, coiled serperts who "jumped" at me
and revealed a "moving string" of white light that danced away,
going in and out of my "visual field," until the drug wore off
completely (About 10-20 mins), revealing a vision of a Mayan
Temple and other beautiful Pyramids (Refer to the _Psychedelic
Experience_, or "The Tibetan Book Of The Dead" for further info on
the different levels of the experience, etc.) Haven't repeated the
experience since. Willing to try again since results have always
been promising.

 ALCOHOL: Gives me a darn headache. I remember when my K
had first started acting up, drinking booze would make my whole
body "turn" in an uncomfortable manner. Now it just plain gives me
a headache. No more consciousness-repressing alcohol for me =).

 TABACCO: Tried "cloves." It would just make me stupid and give
me a "head rush" and dizziness for 30 seconds. A complete
waste, if you ask me. I don't smoke either, so I dropped that
completely. "Bidis" (excuse spelling), or strong "indian" tabacco
would have simmilar effects.

 CANNABIS: This one is the most interesting. Before my K had
completely awakened, I was fond of repeating the Cannabis
experience (This was after messing with MDMA and LSD), since it
would make my K react in what *seemed* a very positive manner.
But that was all soon to change. What I experienced while under
its influence cannot be put into words. All in all, I got a "taste" of
what it is to be "enhanced" in many, many, different aspects of
existance. The insight gained from the experiences is a jewel in
itself. The Price? *Very* little control over "it," horrible pain on my
chakras while under it, and hellish "paranoia loops" I am still
dealing with today. I wouldn't recommend it. I was warned of it by
another list member long ago but I didn't listen, I just had to have
the experience myself and ended up hitting many walls, but always
pushing for more until I realized I was going backwards! (I must be
a masochist, haha =). I reckon that Cannabis made me "think" and
this "thinking" was what brought about the insight, but also the
hellish paranoia. LSD/Psylocybin doesn't make me "think" at all,
rather they just make me "be," hence they work much better, but
they still leave me with that feeling of "inbalance" and "drainage,"
so I'm not very fond of repeating the experiences either.

 I think that's about it. Hope I didn't bother anyone. I just felt
 like I had to share my experiences. Time for a question now :).
Has anyone experimented with MDMA and an active K?. My
MDMA experiments were before my K was active, so I was
wondering if anyone had any experiences with an active K. I was
pondering the idea of experimenting again, "just to see what would
happen," but depleting my serotonin banks is not something I'm
looking forward too =).

 Thanks for the bandwith.. reply privately if so you wish..

 Oneness,
 Alex

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