To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/08/15  10:26  
Subject: RE: [K-list] guru poll 
From: Muskie
  
On 1999/08/15  10:26, Muskie posted thus to the K-list: 
 
On 15-Aug-99 DruoutATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> Dear List, 
>  
> I've been curious for awhile, wondering how many of us have ever 
> had  
> spiritual teachers or gurus  Soooo.  If you are up for another poll 
>:))) 
>  
> !.  Have you ever had a spiritual guru or teacher?
 
No, not really. 
 
I did have an experience at the age of 14 at an ugly moment of my life 
that seems to have substituted for one. I was planning to bring a gun 
to school and kill everyone I could, then myself, when all of a sudden 
the blackness lifted and I saw a set of tools. I don't actually know 
how to explain it: it was a lot of very detailed information in one 
moment, coming out of the blue, and which I half didn't believe in 
(being as I was then, and for many years continued to be, an atheist).
 
After that moment there was an abrupt change in my life. I went from 
school pariah to falling 11 votes short of being elected student body 
president in less than a year, among other things. I also, ex 
nihilo, came upon a remarkable circle of friends. Three of us in 
particular gathered every lunch hour to debate ethics. One was/is  
my best friend, who has a noteworthy story later in life that isn't 
public, and so I won't tell it. The other friend was/is Dave 
Kacyznski, brother of the unabomber, whose ethical struggle is public, 
unfortunately, and I needn't tell it. While my relationship to these 
friends is one of equality, not guru/student, our debates were 
formative for me. 
>  
> 2.  How long have you been with him/her?
 
N/A 
  
> 3.  Did you receive Shaktipat?
 
?? 
  
> 4.  Did your relationship come before, after, or during your K 
> experiences?
 
After/during, if one counts the above as my guru-equivalent. 
   
> 4.  Do you think the relationship come about by design or accident?
 
What is the difference between these two? How would one distinguish 
one from the other? 
  
> 5.  Was your relationship 
>    a. Positive 
>    b. negative 
>    c. both 
>    d. neither
 
d... defined here as N/A
 
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