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Recieved: 1999/08/09  14:40  
Subject: [K-list] Indigo Children ... Martin 
From: Christopher Wynter
  
On 1999/08/09  14:40, Christopher Wynter posted thus to the K-list: 
We have two little boys in our group in Tasmania, David and anunda ...  without 
going into the 
medical/scientific analysis on them, it would seem that what Drunvalo says is 
entirely feasible as 
we have observed what he is talking about within them ... and more.
 
>From the work that I have done with the group and my knowledge of mtDNA and 
Nuclear DNA, I feel that 
he is, within the use of words and language, pretty close ... but hasn't gone 
far enough ...
 
What we notice with these boys is the reactions of others who come into contact 
with them ... many 
are terribly afraid ... and others remark on their presence ... but association 
with them is 
sufficient to trigger changes in people .... I will go into greater detail on 
this if the list 
wishes ...
 
These children (two little boys) were born to unmarried mothers who have been in 
my group for some 
time now.  The consciousness of the work that I have been describing to you has 
been applied to the 
first almost two years of their life.  During their pregnancies the mothers 
attended group sessions 
and since the children were born, they have also been present in group sessions 
with their mothers.
 
The circumstances around their upbringing so far are a little different to the 
normal family 
situation in that the household is a small community ... in fact it's almost 
like tribal situation.
 
However I do believe that it is possible to apply these same principles in 
normal households where a 
child, or children are being raised by Mother with or without father's 
assistance.
 
In fact there are other members of the group who have observed the processes 
that I have used with 
these two little boys and applied them to their own children with very marked 
changes in the 
children's behavioural and learning patterns.  Some of the principles of have 
been applied by a 
couple of group members who are school teachers in the classroom situation with 
similar results.
 
We started with the concept that these children came as our teachers.  We 
observed what the children 
did and applied the mirror back to ourselves "what are these children trying to 
show us, what are 
these children trying to mirror to us about our behaviour, thoughts, feelings 
and emotions".
 
We were very conscious not to apply the words "can't", or "shouldn't" to these 
children in either 
thought or word.  One thing has come out of this is that these children (in our 
perception) are 
growing up without limitations applied to them by any adults.  We have also 
noticed that neither 
David nor anunda (the children's names) seem to have anything to prove either to 
themselves or to 
us.  The explanation that I have for this is that they do not have to find a 
behaviour or a set of 
rules, which they need to obey or comply with.
 
They play happily amongst themselves and spend quite a lot of time just sitting, 
in absolute 
stillness, watching what's going on around them.  They have been encouraged to 
interact with other 
children and fit in quite comfortably with boys and girls quite a few years 
older than themselves.
 
Both little boys were walking by five months.  They are both talking.  They are 
both counting on 
their fingers. Various people who have seen them cannot believe that they are 
only 20 months and 22 
months old.
 
When, in their explorations of life, they get into a situation where we feel 
their actions are 
unacceptable, somebody takes the time to explain what or how the action is 
unacceptable.  The 
important process in this is that the child is given absolute total attention. 
We find that the 
child will look us directly in the eye and always gives some indication that he 
has understood what 
he is being told.
 
I must qualify the preceding paragraph by adding that the first question we ask 
is "what is the 
child trying to tell us, or show us, that we are not getting".  Sometimes it has 
been sufficient to 
ask the child "what are you try to show us" and the child will find some other 
way to get the 
message through.
 
It has become very much a case of "hearing the children". Many times we have 
found their behaviour 
challenging in that their behaviour challenges our concepts of what a child 
should or should not be 
able to do.  Many times, as adults, we find the mirror so very, very strong as 
we are reminded of 
the way we were brought up as children, and how various things were said or done 
to us which had the 
effect of "shutting down" the spontaneity of our expression.
 
We are also finding as the children develop more verbal expression that they are 
very "psychic" and 
are able to express a knowing of things that they could never have seen or were 
never told about. 
This raises the question "how much did we know as children that we were forced 
to forget because out 
parents and teachers could not cope with their own feelings of inadequacy".
 
Another thing we have found is that the children quite often act out our 
unconscious thoughts.  For 
example, not so long ago, there was a difficulty in getting the children to go 
bed on group nights, 
and their behaviour would tend to be a little disruptive.  I watched the 
energies of the room and 
ask the group "who wanted to avoid the topic of the night's discussion and 
wanted to children to 
play as a distraction".  One or two of people admitted to those thoughts and 
immediately both boys 
took their mothers by the hand and led them off to bed.  There have been other 
times when it has 
been very obvious that the children were acting out projections that their 
parents (or others) had 
been putting out (in silent thought) that this is how the children will behave.
 
Both little boys were vaccinated.  The conscious choice was taken primarily on 
the basis of the 
possible after effects of contracting specific diseases.  We were however 
conscious of our own 
memories of being vaccinated.  When the two boys were taken to the doctor, the 
focus was on 
explaining to them exactly what was happening (much to the doctor's 
astonishment) and yes, there 
were a few tears, but no lasting effects.  The doctor later commented to us that 
a lot of the trauma 
was, in his experience, the parents' remembering of their own injections and 
passing that onto the 
children.
 
The subject of crying.
 
Contrary to popular opinion and belief, both boys have been allowed to cry as 
much as they wanted 
to.  Yes, there have been reactions from people in the room to the tears and 
noise they were making. 
For some, it was the remembering that they were not allowed to cry as children. 
For others, it was 
the manner in which they were stopped from crying.
 
There have been a number of times when I have held both boys and allowed them to 
give voice to their 
feelings.  When they have fallen over or hurt themselves, I have noticed that 
they will cry for a 
few minutes and then the crying will turn into "toning".
 
It is my observation that many times what we, as adults, perceived of as 
"crying" by the child is 
actually some innate knowing where the child is applying the power of "tone" 
towards healing its own 
body.
 
At other times, we have observed that the children cry when their mothers are 
experiencing a whole 
lot of grief which they are not giving expression to...  It's almost as though 
the boys were crying 
their mother's tears.
 
Enough from me at this moment...  There are more stories that I could tell you 
of our experiences 
with David and anunda ...  Perhaps some other time, if people are interested.
 
With Respect
 
Christopher Wynter 
Hobart, Tasmania 
wynterATnospambigpond.com
 
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