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Recieved: 1999/08/06 09:21
Subject: [K-list] Re: reincarnation
From: Herma vdb


On 1999/08/06 09:21, Herma vdb posted thus to the K-list:

On Sat, 31 Jul 1999 14:49:41 "A. Erhart" wrote:

>Scheisskurl!
What's this about slagging German???
Is not a language just as good as any?
Let's rather slag reincarnation.
Arrrhhh...
(writing in unease)

On Sun, 01 Aug 1999 19:06 Herma vdb wrote:

>I was very surprised when I read your reply to my sons story. I am
>wondering what triggered you and made you so emotional and feeling
>uneasy?...

On Tue, 03 Aug 1999 09:58 Amanda Erhart wrote:

>OK. I already started an ugly quarrel with someone else on the list about
>my reaction, so I shall try and be more friendly with you. As well as be
>honest.

Remember, you asked:
I felt you were drawing on the list members'emotional responses to your
son's story, sort of saying "Oh look what my son went through, poor guy" for
sympathy...<SNIP>

I have been having that feeling for a long time with some list members (not
you previously) and other lists, particularly ones dedicated to spiritual
issue.
I keep getting very bothered by it, although I understand it is common as
ppl with troubled background will seek out spiritual questions.

In addition, I am tired of the unreflected and attached way most ppl view
WW2. It is just so ignorant.

Of course, I should have been nice and just ignored your post when it really
didn't have anything to do with me.
Sorry...

Dear Amanda,

I've always been someone who tries to point out things in a nice way,
harming nobody, like I did in my previous e-mail to you.

But now my K. tells me to deal with it in another way, since your reply is
so full of arrogance and with no introspection or compassion at all.

That roused a righteous indignation in me.
So take a seat, because I'm gonna be very straight with you.

Remember: I am aware of your other qualities and I only want to point out
some things about your attitude.

At first: My last mail was never written with the intention to gain sympathy
for my son. As the topic was reincarnation, it only served as an example.

Then: Concerning your reply, I can only conclude that you are still
dwelling, or should I say wallowing in your own self-pity, in the way of an
ego-centric child who thinks her truth is the only one in the world.

Further: If you want an 'easy' life without difficulties and introspection,
then you just ignore the essential point at what Kundalini is about: dealing
with fear, loneliness, traumas, problems with others, fixed ideas and any
image of who you think you are.

So when people are dealing with troubled backgrounds, they are just doing
the things they are supposed to do with K. And if that bothers you, then it
is you who is having the problems, not them!

You, dear Amanda, are living only the effects and not looking for the cause
of things.

It is so easy to talk about the Veda's or One-ness or Love and Compassion
and Non-duality and such ideas, but what does that mean when you are at the
same time judging people for what you call 'unreflection' and blaming them
for what you call 'ignorance?'
Ever heard of :'walk your talk' or 'practise what you preach'? Ever seen a
mirror?

Are you still believing that all this has nothing to do with you?

Maybe, one day, you will encounter the truth underneath your rage and your
lashing out to people...
and find a very sweet, but lonely little child within yourself, still so
much longing for all the attention and sympathy you are blaming others for
...

Herma

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