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Recieved: 1999/07/17 14:17
Subject: [K-list] 3rd chakra problems, was: mini poll celibacy
From: A. Erhart
On 1999/07/17 14:17, A. Erhart posted thus to the K-list:
On Sat, 17 Jul 1999 13:06:15 MrsToast wrote:
>In a message dated 7/17/99 12:07:03 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
>mumblecatATnospamangelfire.com writes:
>
><< I also had panic attacks and gastrointestinal problems
> which I suspect was caused by imbalances in the 3rd
> chakra. There is somehting there and it's stubborn.
> :(( >>
>I, too, suffered literally years with panic attacks and gastrointestinal
>problems.
Those two reactions are very much connected.
It has something to do with how the nervous system is
wired, although I don't understand it.
The research in panic attacks and depression is a huge
business because so many ppl have it.
>So much so, I would cycle in and out of agoraphobia. The
>suffering sucked. Several things led to freedom from this somewhat
>self-imposed hell.
Yes, it definitely is somewhat self imposed.
And it is a hell. The Tibetans equate the state of
anger with the state of being in hell. I can really
see why.
I experienced it as getting stuck in a destructive
thought pattern, getting more and more centered on
destruction and domination over the negative stimulus
which caused it in the first place. It was a real
quagmire. And it was all caused by not daring to stand
up for myself in the first place and not daring to
admit feeling hurt. K just addressed these problems
a few nights ago and... well, more about that later.
:)
>I did 2
>years of Prozac and klonopin to deal with the symptoms, and they helped
>tremendously. They gave me temporary relief which served to let some of my
>self grow up, the parts that were stuck under the anxiety so busy trying to contain it.
Yes, medication can give you the "lift" you need to
get out the whole that has been dug.
I was lucky enough to kick my way out of it.
I'm the only person I know who has had panic attacks
and gotten rid of it.
A lot of ppl think once you got it, you can't get rid
of it, but that's not quite right. K was definitely
involved both in setting it up and getting rid of it.
A lot of medical workers agree that panic attacks is
not a permanent "illness".
>Pregnancy made it much worse, but labor, childbirth and breastfeeding reset
>my hormonal stew.
:) Yes, going through pregnancy often helps against
anxiety.
>In addition, my second labor & childbirth experience
>(unmedicated VBAC) made me feel capable of anything. It was quite an
>experience! And the first time I actually put the word "surrender" to my
>spiritual path.
:)) I tried to let the panic do its thing a few times,
just went with it to see where it led. It was quite
interesting, but didn't lead to any particular place.
Anger seldomly does.
>All these things have contributed to a much happier me! My only residual
>problems are of the nature of patterned learned behaviors. Conscious
>breathing and redirected thought, as well as Reiki-ing myself, have rendered
>my symptom-free 98% of the time, and the other 2% is so minimal that it's
>hardly noteworthy.
Glad to hear you managed to dig your way out of the
3rd chakra. It definitely has something to do with
empathy and territory, the self in relation to other
selves.
I've heard about other ppl managing anxiety through
chakra energy work.
Geez, one day I'll dig my amygdalas out, what's the
point of fear anyway ? It's a useless reaction.
Best regards,
Amanda.
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