To: K-list
Recieved: 1999/07/01 15:55
Subject: [K-list] Drowning / Froggy Jacques Cousteau OFF TOPIC
From: A. Erhart
On 1999/07/01 15:55, A. Erhart posted thus to the K-list:
Dear Jacques,
On Thu, 01 Jul 1999 08:22:45 Jacques de Schryver wrote:
>Here is a story for those afraid of what I do.
Hey, that's a nice title for a poem. ;)
>By that time, I learned to drown, so that I should
>know precisely what to do if it should happen.
>
>So I went through a first serie of spasms, starting
>lungs empty, in a swimming pool, near the ladder.
You mean the spasms that appear when the body insists
on drawing a breath, even under water ?
>The first serie of spasms is hard to bear. You
>are just choking. Then it goes through a remission
>for about 12 seconds I should say. Then a second
>serie of spasm. Difficult to think when it happens.
I can believe that. I have read descriptions from
recovered ppl and the process of drowning and the
burning from lack of oxygen sounds like one of the
absolute worst ways of kicking it.
>But the second remission gives you a very clear
>mind, just as the first.
>
>Then the third serie of spasms. No one among
>us could ever pass it.
Did you ?
>This training once saved my life. And this is why,
>if I strive to 'let go', I have anyway a method
>(at least tentatively) to work on Kundalini raising.
You are a brave man.
>The problem of the guru is that I didn't find one.
You have one inside you, your higher self.
>Perhaps one of these days, I'll write down for you my
>drowning
>experience in a cave, since it is related to a near
>death experience that I had while fighting in a narrow
>path underwater. It had partly collapsed, at the very moment
>I found my scuba didn't let me breath any more.
Sounds very dramatic and not a little claustrophobia
inducing. I'd like to read it as I have claustrophobia
and need to get rid of it.
>(Plongeurs International).
Plongeur ? Is that the French word for Diver ?
>By now I have been using the electric stim for 5 hours a
>day since I received it at the end of last week. It has
>notably
>increased the feeling of my lower back.
Hey, don't burn your kidneys up, will ya ? ;)
>I am interested in discrepancies in our opinion.
>
>So we will see if Froggy Jack will be Boiling Jack.
LOL !
It is all up to Goddess. :)
I'm starting my own little sensory deprivation
experiment this weekend. I'll try to sit in
absolute darkness for as long as I can and just
be in the moment there.
Very creepy and very interesting to hear about
your wilful drowning experiences. I used to do
free diving and know the gagging spasms when you
start to get empty for air.
Best regards,
Amanda.
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