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On 1999/06/14  07:55, nancy posted thus to the K-list: 
Robert intended this to be sent to the list so I'm forwarding. 
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Subject: Re: [K-list] Subconscious/Unconscious 
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In a message dated 99-06-14 00:25:13 EDT, you write:
 
<< ><< I would agree, strictly in terms of the usage of the words: the term 
  
 >"unconscious mind" is a contradiction in terms. A mind is by definition 
  
 >conscious. Do you have a mind when you are unconscious? >> 
 > 
 >I would answer by a question, do you have a body, to take an example, 
 >when you are unconscious? 
 > 
 I don't know whether I do or not; certainly, I am not aware of any body 
 when I am unconscious. Let's suppose, however, that I do have a body 
 when I am unconscious (although what it is that "has" a body is 
 unclear). 
  >>
 
Hi!
 
I just joined this list a couple days ago and so far I feel like its a pretty  
relevant list.  I hope this message gets sent to all on the list.  I am still  
a bit of a computer novice.
 
Also, I got in late to the conversation, but I do know that "unconscious"  
means unknowing.  Like when someone passes out, they're unconscious.  And I  
don't beleive that the part of yourself that regulates your heartbeat, your  
blood pressure, your breathing is "unknowing".  And I also appreciate that  
calling it "unconcious" is a probably just a matter of semantics.  
 
And the same with calling it subconscious.  Which means below the conscious  
mind.  When my conscious mind can count to 200,000,000 in a second then I  
will agree with the idea of a sub-conscious mind.  
 
In the meantime, a friend of mine who has been developing his own field of  
psychology has subverted this attempt to label & define outside of  
consciousness by using the term Other-Than-Conscious, to describe anything  
else that we're not conscious of.  Which the appreciation that language just  
doesn't translate experiences real well.
 
Anyway, I hope that is appropriate to the conversation.  And with specific  
application to kundalini, I believe that the other-than-conscious mind uses  
kundalini (or vice-versa) to self-regulate and enhance the health &  
well-being of the individual.
 
Robert  
 
 
 
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