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Recieved: 1999/06/09  06:58  
Subject: [K-list] Unconscious/Subconscious 
From: Antoine
  
On 1999/06/09  06:58, Antoine posted thus to the K-list: 
Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 14:26:16 -0600 
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> 
Subject: [K-list] Unconscious/Subconscious
 
Hello Martin,
 
<< I would agree, strictly in terms of the usage of the words: the term 
"unconscious mind" is a contradiction in terms. A mind is by definition 
conscious. Do you have a mind when you are unconscious? >> 
 
I would answer by a question, do you have a body, to take an example, 
when you are unconscious?
 
<< The whole essence of being unconscious is that your mind is not 
operating! So, references to the unconscious are to non-conscious 
things, i.e., things other than minds, or your own mind, anyway (since 
you are not generally consciously experiencing other minds directly). >>
 
Is our body something different than our own mind?
 
By the way we answer those questions the meaning of the word unconscious 
for one varies greatly.
 
Antoine
 
<< Subconscious? Pre-conscious? Are these grey areas? I would regard 
them 
as unconscious too.
 
Of course, there may be more than one part of the psyche that can be 
conscious, but *you* will only experience *yourself* directly, not any 
other bits that may also be there... But that is a different can of 
worms. >>
 
 
 
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