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Recieved: 1999/06/08 21:08
Subject: Re: [K-list] PRANAYAMA
From: gopalan n.s.


On 1999/06/08 21:08, gopalan n.s. posted thus to the K-list:

Hi Jerry,

Thank you for your response Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 09:49:56 EDT. I couldn't
talk to you all these days as my computer was down & under shift.

>HELLO GOPALANN : I enjoyed reading your post on pranayama and its usage
>by
>your guru. Your explanation of pranayama is correct as I understand it, and
>I
>appreciated your sharing of your son's experience.

I am glad you appreciate my thoughts on Pranayama.

>After 6 mos I went to a sufi pir who gave me pranayama to do
>--after 6 wks of that very bad headaches began which still plague me to
>this
>day. After the sufi pir I also went to a powerful swami who used shaktipat
>and I developed further physical problems from which I am also still
>suffering.

>I have very briefly related my experience to raise two questions: based on
>the >experience I and others have had in the west, it has often been found
>that using >pranayama and other breathing techniques can be harmful to one
>who already has >activated k; it has also been found that going to a swami
>or other teacher after one has
>already activated k has caused problems, as happened to me. People seem to
>have a better chance of success, with less risk, if they go to a swami or a
>teacher before k has activated, as you did.

When one is trying to work on Prana & K, there is disturbance in Nature,
which causes problems. We try to understand nature which is complicate and
which is beyond our mind. Our efforts are always to find solutions with our
limited mind.

A Guru is like a doctor. A True Guru is more than a doctor. A doctor goes
by symptoms/possible cause/s and prescribes to restore a healthy body. A
true Guru understands the nature.

A search must be on to find a True Guru, when you find one, your problems
with Prana & K are resolved.

>This has been difficult for me for several reasons, one of which is that
>prior to
>my awakening I had travelled India widely, was familiar with the teachings
>of
t>he Indian masters, and was convinced based on what I had read that once k
>was awake I definitely needed a master to guide me through it. Yet my
>experience >was the opposite, as far as I can tell. So far, at least, I
>have done much better on my >own, following my own intuition, and I know
>others who have had the same >experience.

There is nothing wrong in following one's own inner Guru/Guide/Sixt sense,
while working with Prana/K. But this has limitatations.
Spiritual evolution is a on going process-from incarnation to incarnations.
It takes millions of birth-death cycle to reach a high spiritual level. It
is certain that you will be able to know your position in the spiritual
level scale, when you cross all the limitations of your mind.

Each one of us are working, without knowing spiritual level/knowing
something of our selves/nature. A True Guru is aware of everything. For
him it doesn't matter when you find him, for he has answers for all your
problems.

>Just wondering,is/was your guru in India or in the US?

I am lucky enough to meet and talk to my guru at will. We live just 3 kms
away in Bangalore, India. He is younger to me by couple of years and looks
ordinary, nothing different from others.

Look forward for more interactions.

With love,

Gopal

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