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Recieved: 1999/05/30  14:35  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Kundalini/Chakras 
From: Druout
  
On 1999/05/30  14:35, Druout posted thus to the K-list: 
In a message dated 5/29/99 3:48:29 AM Pacific Daylight Time,  
smacraeATnospamcamtech.net.au writes:
 
<< Kundalini moves from muladhara up through the chakras one by one.  She 
 removes them in the order above. Kundalini can be very active in the 
 body prior to the removal of any chakra barriers. >>
 
Dear List,
 
Here are two quotes on chakras that I find interesting:
 
In a chapter called "Are The Chakras Real" by Ken Wilber in the wonderful  
book *Kundalini Evolution and Enlightenment* ed. John White, is the following  
quote: "...Strictly speaking, final liberation, being the timeless and  
therefore eternal condition of all words and selves, is not so much the  
*result* of the *action* of untying these knots, but rather the tacit  
acknowledgment that these knots do not and cannot, obstruct ultimate  
consciousness.  Liberation, in short, is not the actual untying of these  
knots, but the silent admission that they are already untied.  Herein lies  
the key to the paradox of the chakras:  They are ultimately dissolved in the  
realization that thay need not be dissolved."  
 
Coincidentally, yesterday I was browsing through a book I had bought from a  
list participant last December that I hadn't yet read.  *A Guide to  
Shaktipat* by Swami Shivom Tirth.  In a question and answer section I found  
the following:
 
"Question:  Does the piercing of the six chakras occur in sequence, or can  
they be pierced in any order?  ...
 
"Answer:  All chakras are pierced simultaneously to various degrees.  Work on  
some chakras could be so slow that one may not experience anything.  Some  
other chakra may be pierced through more intensely, and the Kriyas related to  
that chakra would be equally intense.  Therefore, the aspirant could  
misunderstand that even when a particular chakra is not pierced, another  
chakra which would seem to be next on the ascending order is already pierced. 
 
"...Sleeping Shakti can be compared to the fire smothering under ashes.  The  
Muladhar is the fire pot, and the flames of the fire would be above the fire  
pot.  The flames would blaze and reach new heights from time to time.  In the  
same way Shakti can be experienced flowing up and down.  If it goes up and  
one experiences a heavy head, one-pointed mind and bliss, it does not mean  
that the lower chakras were not pierced and that the Shakti reached the top  
without going through the lower chakras.  The truth is that the lower chakras  
were definitely pierced to some extent."
 
Just some food for thought.  I suspect the energy follows it's own path in  
individual bodies--without necessarily following the "rules,"  though  
guidelines are always helpful.  
 
Love, Hillary     
 
 
 
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