To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/05/27  01:50  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: PRANAYAMA 
From: gopalan n.s.
  
On 1999/05/27  01:50, gopalan n.s. posted thus to the K-list: 
Hi Dharma,
 
Your response , Date: Wed, 26 May 1999 06:39:13 -0500, was really fast, just  
15 minutes after I had sent mine.
 
>I agree that anything more than the simplest techniques can be >dangerous  
>and should be used with the help of a guru.  But in my >experience, if one  
>is in touch with a spiritual guru, the inner guide, >he/she is the best  
>guru anyone could ever find.  Then safety lies in being >utterly submissive  
>and responsive to the guru during K.work/meditation.
 
I too am constantly prompted and guided by my inner Guru/Guide/sixth  
sense/... and ... I always look up for confirmation from the inner source. 
However, I am convinced that there are several techniques provided by nature  
which is readily available, if one shows some initiative in the required  
direction, he will reach his goals much faster and more surely and safely.   
These techniques can be compared to the concept of leverage in  
mechanics-engineering.  Energy available at our disposal should be optimised  
and used effectively.
 
>One position I was in for some time is something I later saw a  
> >chiropractor do, as he prepared to "unkink" a woman's spine.
 
What do you mean by this !!!
 
>The night after the workshop ended, my spiritual guru did more work, >and  
>my K. was into "high gear."
 
I feel happy that you have been able to appreciate and work with K.
 
>I think one problem we have in discussing prana is that people disagree >on  
>definitions.  Some people here say that prana is NOT Kundalini, and >others  
>say other things.  May I ask how you use the words?
 
Me too agree as well disagree ... funny isn't it !!! LOL
 
I agree when I say the Universe is "PRANAMAYA"  i.e., there exists prana in  
every bit & piece  ..living.. non living.  Nothing exists without prana.   
Then K too is nothing but prana.  Hence people tend to use both terms to  
mean same thing.
 
I don't agree if any one says Prana=K.  K is described as Koti-Surya  
Prabha..Koti means 10 millions.. Surya Prabha means Suns light/rays.  The  
speed of light is expressed as 186000 kms/sec...while K light is many times  
this.
 
Prana is used(Pranayama) to wake up K.  Prana is also provided within ones  
own body to carry out each & every voluntary & involuntary functions.  You  
don't expect K will do this.  K is a very hightly powerful.. should I say  
concentrated prana... for eg.,  an atom in itself is can't do much but when  
harnessed in effective way ...see its all powerful can destroy & create.
 
With Love, 
Gopal
 
 
 
 
 
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