To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/05/15  13:38  
Subject: Re: [K-list] Reiki and Kundalini 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent
  
On 1999/05/15  13:38, Mystress Angelique Serpent posted thus to the K-list: 
At 04:14 AM 5/14/99 , Domagoj Klepac wrote: 
> And to 
>have Student, to be responsible for him, means that you have to work 
>through both yours and his karma. Having two students means having to 
>clean karma for three people. And people in general can't take care for 
>even their own karma. That's why Kundalini shaktipat and such things 
>cannot be taken lightly. 
  Taking Karma from my students is not usually a problem, it's the time 
travel brain surgery I did on myself at the beginning of this week that has 
me taking a few days off from the net to process.. but I thought I'd 
bravely offer my 2 cents worth on this thread which is of little 
consequence to me, coz that's about all I'm up for, just now.. I've turned 
turtle while an early split in my psyche mends.. I'll be back when my body 
stops rippling and vibrating, and I remember how to sleep. 
 
>But I could heal consequences with Reiki. But Reiki doesn't treat 
>causes, and it doesn't heal somebody's karma. Kundalini does, it makes 
>people change. Reiki is just a nice toy, which can be educational, but 
>prana is just another form of energy, like electric energy or kinetic 
>energy. Karma and Kundalini are not energies, they are something a lot 
>deeper. 
   Well, I'm a 2nd degree Reiki Master, according to initiation but I don't 
claim to know much about Reiki..  I will just tell of my experience..  
  About 2 1/2 years ago, I had a client who was referred to me by his 
psychiatrist because she felt her client needed to relive a spanking from 
his childhood in order to clear it, and obviously if she spanked him 
herself she might lose her licence.. improper conduct and all that. 
   He was a Usui Reiki Master, and during the interview before the session 
he complained about a heart chakra blockage that he and his students had 
been trying to clear for months.. I got up spontaneously and put a hand of 
either side of his chest and "zapped" it, the blockage was gone in about a 
minute. He was impressed, so I cleared out some other stuff while I was at 
it.. 
   From this experience, I would say that if Reiki and K. were the same 
energy, then he would not have needed K. to fix what Reiki couldn't.  
  A few months later he wanted another session, and offered to trade me a 
1st degree Reiki initiation for my time.. so I did. I kind of think he got 
the better part of the deal, but I let Goddess handle the nuances of 
accounting..  
  I didn't feel much during the Reiki initiation.. a bit of energy 
movement, but nothing remarkable..  During the session at one point he was 
not there (he had no memory of this conversation, afterwards) and I was 
chatting directly with his higher self.. so I asked it about Reiki, and was 
pretty much told "anything you believe in, will work".. The rituals and 
popularity of Reiki give folks faith, in their ability to share energy and 
Goddess provides.  
  A few months later an online friend offered to initiate me 2nd degree, by 
remote.. I told her sure go ahead, but to keep an eye out and pay attention 
to my guides coz initiating me might be very different from initiating a 
non-awakened person, and Goddess would repay her generosity with 
information. So she did.. again, I really didn't feel a thing, didn't pay 
much attention, but while doing my initiation she was given several brand 
new, powerful Reiki sigils to use on me.. now she has her own brand of 
Reiki. Who initiated who? I dunno.  
  Anyhow, that is my experience.. offered up for consideration. I don't 
really want to enter this debate, coz I have been imaging the movement of 
energy since I was a teenager, just for the fun of it bouncing energy balls 
with a psychic friend off the back wall of the Art room... and when I do 
energy work usually I dunno if it's prana or K. or Reiki or Mesmeric Force 
Ectoplasm Mind control. I'll leave the arguments to the scholars.. I just 
send love and Goddess decides what form it takes. 
 
 
 
 
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