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Recieved: 1999/05/12 20:18
Subject: Re: [K-list] Re: Shamanism and ego-death..
From: Kimberly McDaniel
On 1999/05/12 20:18, Kimberly McDaniel posted thus to the K-list:
I enjoy pretty much your exchange. Simply adding a few words of book
stuff, you are most probably already aware of, to give an excuse to
simply write again: I enjoy reading your conversation.
Hello Antoine :)
I wish I could be as honest as you about just wanting a reason to write
again...perhaps my next incarnation <g>.
>I guess in the Golden Dawn symbolism, using the Kabbala, the name of
>this guardian would be the Archangel Zaphkiel, who is waiting on the
>other side of the Abyss separating the first 3 sephirah from the seven
>others. He is the Vision of God, when one looks toward Kether, the
>attention of a Mother for its child while looking towards Malkuth.
>He/She is also, for the lower part of the robe; Satan or Saturn.
I know nothing of Golden Dawn symbolism or the Kabbala...never had much
belief in archangels and deities...even Thunder I consider to be just a
powerful spirit who helps people.
>A question to you Kimberly, taking this game of symbols, where do you
>look when the nightmares are felt as such?
(Must say that the nightmares have stopped, although the extreme
over-abundance of energy is driving me nuts...nothing helps that much and on
top of everything I am sick and injured (and fired, LOL). I just have to
get used to functioning at this level...my capacity's being raised again.)
OK...to me there are differences between my nighttime journeys and dreamtime
and my "normal dreams". I don't have normal dreams that often, and when I
do they're generally troubling. If I wake up in the morning knowing it
wasn't a journey, I wasn't in my dreamtime, but it was a dream, and it was
as unpleasant as mine have been recently, I call it a nightmare. Sometimes
nightmares are caused by others "breaking into" your dreamscape.
Generally I view it as my subconscious playing tricks with me...or my ego
being PO'd because it's shoved in a closet, but this time, I don't know. I
merely helped the spirit in the way he wanted me to. And that once I
appeared in his robe I think was a gift as he was leaving...a type of energy
transference for freeing him from some things I'd rather not get into here.
But what I freed him from was rather PO'd too, so it could be them. I've
had to battle them before and they love to give you nightmares about your
big fears. Only this time I can take care of it. :) The point is, the robe
was his potential, his power, his knowledge, his energy, his experience.
It's not part of me but I can access it like pulling files on a computer.
It's another payment for another favor I've pulled out there. I know that
in life he was a high up in the masons, if anyone out there has any ideas of
the significance of that. I know it's important, but why? I've been to his
last grave, he did my husband's ego death but we found him about three
months ago. I knew when I moved here I would have to fight them off, so
now's as good a time as any.
>Continuing with my book stuff, a 'part' of Zaphkiel, also named Satan is
>represented as the being that drowns in the sea of binah. The one who
>tries to rescue him may well drawn itself by the movement of panic of
>Satan. Only the most powerful of powerful can save him by its capacity
>to resist to the efforts of Satan to stay on the surface.
I have to say that I don't think we are speaking of the same entity...even
though they sound alike, in many ways they are very different. I've known
this fella for a while...he taught me a lot.
He is (he's still around, just has no form other than energy now) a master
at manipulating dreamscapes and shaping the otherworld...has a lot to teach
but has a philosophy that morality is something imagined by man to control
the actions of other men, and thus will teach anything you want to know.
However, what you do with what you know is *your* responsibility. His
words, not mine.
Kimberly
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