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Recieved: 1999/03/12 10:00
Subject: [K-list] Looking for some opinions here.
From: Tim Harris


On 1999/03/12 10:00, Tim Harris posted thus to the K-list:

Dear Tim,
>
> I think we are not in accord on a lot of issues. I might have more
time
> later to reply to you.

Stall.

>
> One point I will discuss now is "change." Change is a quality of
the
> lower regions, Physical, Astral, and Causal. My experience is that
> there is no change in the spiritual regions above the Causal Plane.
>
>
>

I agree. On that plane it is as you say. However, due to our
enlightenment
(whatever that is) we still exist in this plane until our ascension
which
comes in the course of the natural death that still must occur. What
is is
and we are still a part of that isness. I submit that, if, as you say,
there
is no change, and, as I believe, death is illusionary at best, then
'here'
is where we are. No matter what spiritual plane one considers
themselves to
be on, 'this' is still the reality apparent.

If then we say love, peace, and prosperity do we consider ourselves to
be
above the act of creation? Is God, or to be neutral 'that which we
individually believe to be 'one and sacred', above creation? I suggest
that
he is not. Then why should we claim to be also? Our words do not
change what
is. Our actions do. Jesus message was "do as I do". It was the words
of his
followers that stressed the miracles 'of' doing and not the doing
itself. No
wonder Jesus said "How long do I have to suffer you".

The message is clear. Creation is doing in what is. Those that claim
to be
this or that by any name are not fooling the masses but only making
them
stray. Is this your mission? To mislead by glorifying the finger that
points
and not what the finger is pointing too?

You are right! Understand this. I do not argue your philosophy! What I
am
saying is that we will wait for an eternity on the spiritual plains
until we
master creation on the physical planes. Is that not what God is?
Creation?

Regards.

Tim Harris

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