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Recieved: 1999/01/19 14:51
Subject: [K-list] Proto Shiva (was TEST)
From: Wim Borsboom


On 1999/01/19 14:51, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list:

Hi Katharine and others,

Who wrote: hot chocolate and coffee?
"Hmmm, lekker," we say in Dutch.

Katharine, you wrote:
Wm? .......

I like the way you spell my name: "Wm." You took the "i" out of it. Hope
you did that on purpose. I should have let go of that little i myself a
long time ago :-)
All right you smarty.... , I should've gotten rid of the big I as well?
;-)
I wonder why that is impossible....hmmmm.

It may say something about what I went through some previous but especially
last night.
I have Yoga-like workouts (what Dharma alludes to) happening with me every
night while in bed. As I have said before, they just happen, it started a
few years ago quite intensively. I't a typical K. thing. There is a very
clear immediacy about them. It does not follow any books or system except
one's own system(s). The movements (asana like) can flow from one into the
other. Sometimes I need lots of room. The complexity mounts as one's
flexibity increases.
Yes... my legs over and behind my head.
I don't know what that is good for, it is very difficult to drink hot
chocolate that way. But it is lot easier to see my behind from this odd
angle (with some genitalia dangling in front of it).

It makes me *think?* about the questionability of life..... think....
thought.... thunk.

Actually I enjoy it immensely.... life and...the pretzel pose that is...,
it stretches pretty well every thing there is to stretch , your
imagination, my spine and leg muscles, tendons, etc.
At the same time, when I relax into it and breath out slowly, the sense of
the sweetness of my nerves in my whole body is very strong and approaches
the gently exited bliss of an elongated body/mind/spirit orgasm.
When I unwind myself out of this, the reverse stretch takes place. My body
then looks more like an antique baroque table with human legs and arms, the
table top being my pelvis and chest (curved upwards), with a human head
trying to fall off on one side and the ....genita.... you got it!
The feelings are as out of this world as the whole situation that I am
trying to describe. And all that without effort...It is hilarious!
Eventually I find myself just lying on my back, hands in a (catholic)
praying mudra resting on my chest, purring like a big cat....then deep and
deeper grunts, then a long aum-like hum that gets accompanied by me singing
a hymn-like melody about the Holy Spirit (catholic connotations).
When the melody become slower, the low hum (which I am singing while the
melody goes on as well) increases its frequency till it becomes a very high
child-like voice. My voice box's vibration is intense, the soft palate of
my mouth pulls itself in and turn upwards towards the area of the third
ventricle, while my tongue worms itself decisively into the space that
opens up above my palate. The sweet feeling all the while in my whole body
increases in intensity and takes on ....colour.... the luster of gold and
silver spikes emanating way out from my body. By then I'm afloat, bathed
in... no... engulfed in this thin Jell-O like liquidity without substance.
The center of my being is getting played like a stringed musical
instrument, my tongue doing the plucking and riffs. (Is that the word?).
Is this Glory or what?
Music of the spheres, celestial choirs, terrestrial orchestra.
ONE big I.....
And everything that was, is (...you too...) and shall be, converges time-
and spacelessly into that divine / (human) harmony
Being takes on evocations of sound, which take on all the luster and hues
of colour, which in turn take on the sensations of the subtle and gross
substances of existence.... blowing up into creation....gong
sounds....gong....gong.....
....
.....
......
Sssooo, if you have bodily sensations now, and you suffer a bit or a
lot...., eventually you will reclaim something like this.
You in divinity and divinity in you.

Just to make sure, :-) (I like to corroborate reality) I looked it all up
in some old and new literature. What the tongue does is what is called
Khechari Mudra. The other sequence of movements, breathing, muscle tensing
and relaxing are the various Bandhas (Mula, Uddiyana, Jalandhara). The
sensorial unifying realizations are expanded Sambhavi Mudras. (In one of my
previous posts I indicated some of the books I peruse.)

Of course:
What you read is not what you get,
What you are, can (probably) be read about.

In the Indus valley archeologists found these clay seals (from 4 to 6
thousand years old) and some of them are depictions of a yogi type being,
named Proto Shiva.
A bit much on the male side. (It started out one-sidedly early in history,
as we know. We are still suffering from that.)
The translation of the text on one seal reads, "The mister who glorifies
over all", officially and erroneously translated as "The Lord who subdued
existence".

Look at this website:
http://www.harappa.com/har/har0.html
http://www.harappa.com/indus/33.html for the seal.
For the Indus Valley script check out:
http://www.indiastar.com/jha.htm

 WM
Love
This is going to be such a fabulous year.

Katharine, you wrote:
Wm? ..........Please!!!!!! don't make me watch football.....well nice
>butts....but it just isn't worth having to sit in front of the TV so
>long.....Do you think we could hire a male striper to be the maid for the
>sandwhich's? Hey Wm....are you busy??? :-)

I am, but you are welcome to come here.
The rain stopped...skinny dipping in the neighbour's hot tub ;-)
It is actually nicer when it pours...

The neighbour, the lady I wrote about before will give birth any day now to
a .....
well a little angel for sure.

At 10:07 AM 1/19/99 -0500, Katharine wrote:
>Sharon, xxxtg, Wm, Jewel & All,
>
>> Sooo glad to know us sinners are still here while everyone else got
>raptured
>> up. Wasn't it Rajneesh who said, "sinners make for more in-ter-est-ing
>> peeeple."
>>
>> Kat, Sharon, & Jewel are here too, so ... lets party! (We do need 4
>men tho
>> for ying-yang balance). If not, we'll have to do some men stuff, like
>watch
>> football, grab our crotch, and yell for each other to 'get us a
>sandwich!'
>> I'll have to go thru the files and see if I can find "the best of from
>way
>> back when"... (of course it would be IMHO)
>
>Well it looks like one man was brave enough to put his foot forward right
>Wm? ..........Please!!!!!! don't make me watch football.....well nice
>butts....but it just isn't worth having to sit in front of the TV so
>long.....Do you think we could hire a male striper to be the maid for the
>sandwhich's? Hey Wm....are you busy??? :-)
>>
>> <a jug of hot choclate oh,,, and a trench coat would be nice.
>
>I like the idea of hot choclate....it would go with the strange weather we
>are having around here!
>>
>> Ohhh you wish for too little. No can do. It must be bigger, altho a jug
>is
>> pretty big.
>>
>> Tequila!
>
>I bet your the person who eats the worm at the bottom! :-)
>
>> * One tequila, two tequila, three tequila, Floor! *
>
>LOL....yup you ate the worm!
>
>katharine
>
>

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