To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/01/05  20:18  
Subject: [K-list] Confusions and some understanding. 
From: Wim Borsboom
  
On 1999/01/05  20:18, Wim Borsboom posted thus to the K-list: 
>Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1999 11:01:17 -0800 
>To: Kund 
>From: Wim Borsboom <wimATnospamzerius.com> 
>Subject: Re: [K-list] I think I got rid of my attachments 
>In-Reply-To: <411b4c72.369230f7ATnospamaol.com>
 
Dear Florence, 
I did just read your message, the one that had to do with what Robert wrote. 
You don't mind me being a bit short on explanation for now. I hope I won't 
be blunt. 
Rule one, " Whatever feels uncomfortable to you is not the whole truth." 
Rule two, " Whatever makes you feel inadequate cannot be the truth at all." 
There is quite a bit of confused matter throughout the  account of what you 
gathered and reported with about four or five things I have no quarrel with. 
Anything not right in your account has nothing to do with you, you were 
just reporting. 
You get what I mean to say.
 
Two things in the whole message were close to being right, very close in fact. 
What  you quoted from Robert 's words, was a bit more than half right. 
(Robert is a good guy, needs a bit of integration, that's all.) 
Your PS at the very end (Second Coming), is defenitely part of a full 
understanding. 
I love your PS. 
Then there was a lot  regular confused interpretation that one picks up on 
the paths to enlightenment 
I will deal with it in an upcoming reply, for now see if the following 
section makes sense. 
Go by it and you can forget everything else you've ever heard.  
It may not look simple but it actually is. 
 
It is part of a message that I just send to the list dealing with some of 
the issues you covered
 
It is a response to some remarks by Harsha about "belief and illusion." 
He puts be "believing" a bit high... 
Here it comes: 
(Best thing is to read it one line at a time as you scroll down you email 
reader.)
 
 
(-:?) Belief Belief Belief  (!:-)
 
The Truth 
As long as there is belief  there is no faith 
As long as there is faith there is no certitude 
As long as there is certitude, there is no reality 
As long as there is reality, illusion appears as real 
As long as there is illusion, truth is en-veiled
 
Illusion gone, truth un-veiled
 
TRUTH: 
LOVE 
ALL 
LOVE 
ONE 
SELF
 
there is nothing else to do than that 
there is nothing else to be than that 
nothing else is possible 
anything that is not this  
appears as illusion 
illusion is...... 
illusion
 
love creates all from unity 
one-->love-->all 
love is mutuality 
(no duallity) 
(no duplicity) 
(no complicity) 
all-one 
oneself 
all-->love-->one
 
But then we knew that already.
 
As long as there is knowing there is... 
As long.as there... 
As long ... 
As... 
... 
Outrageous Dancing is OK
 
As long as there is a question there is no answer. 
... ... ... 
... ... 
... 
.
 
Wim, 
Maitreya 
Your Ultimate Friend 
Is NowHere
 
 
 
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