To: K-list 
Recieved: 1999/01/03  08:12  
Subject: Re: [K-list] A Green Flash 
From: Jeanne Garner
  
On 1999/01/03  08:12, Jeanne Garner posted thus to the K-list: 
Dear El, Bill, and all,
 
At 08:57 PM 1/2/99 EST, CKRESSATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
>Bill Peay asked me to forward this message from him to this list: 
 
I started to make this a private reply, then I went ahead and added the 
k-list to the address.  Maybe this is something that needs to be said openly.
 
I appreciate Bill's peace-making efforts, but I can't avoid a few niggling 
questions.  The first one to come to mind is, did Bill read 
Robert/Martin/Tamra's post of 12/30/98, the one entitled, "From Martin?"  
 
After reading Mystress Angelique's reply to it, and at the suggestion of 
some of the list members, I pulled it out of Eudora's trashcan, and read 
it.  I had to read it in bits and pieces, because it was so embedded with 
hostility and ugliness that I really couldn't stomach it all at once. 
Eventually, I got it read, threats and all.
 
So I had to ask myself first--and ultimately, I guess, all of us--if, as 
Martin/Robert/Tamra say, the purpose of the new list (and the reason for 
ousting us from KRC) is to provide a comfortable place for newbies to 
gather, what can be said of list managers who use threats, psychic warfare, 
and manipulative, dishonest tactics?  Should someone in a vulnerable state 
of k-crisis really be exposed to that?  What happens when a list member, 
soaring on ego psychosis, confronts Martin's authority?  Will that person 
come under psychic attack, simply because although Martin has learned a few 
tricks of the trade, he hasn't learned how to use them wisely?  
 
You know, we've seen people in this very situation here, on a really big 
k-high and ego out of control--and here, on this list, people handle it 
with patience, understanding, and love, yet without feeding that 
monstrously growing ego.  Some of them were even first time posters to this 
list.  
 
A few folks (and I'm one) think that this triad is really one person. 
Whether they are or not isn't the point; what IS the point, though, is that 
Robert and Tamra are at the very least the agents for Martin, working at 
his behest.  One can tell a lot about people by their associates.  Robert's 
cruelty, Tamra's duplicity, Martin's threats...what can be said of any one 
of them on that basis alone?
 
Which brings me to another question that arose in meditation this morning. 
Does the K-list really =want= to be listed in the same place with Martin's? 
 It's not my decision to make, for which I'm very relieved, but if Mystress 
Angelique ever takes a vote, I would say, chuck the KRC, and keep our 
current site.  Get it listed with search engines, whatever it takes--but 
the original ousting may well have been the Universe's New Years gift to 
all of us.  This list as a whole, perhaps because of the Mystress' wise 
steering of our little ship over these sometimes stormy waters, is a safe 
haven for kundalini-bound travelers.  
 
Those questions aside, I share Bill's awe of the green flash.  I've been 
graced by it a few times myself when I lived on the Gulf Coast.  Magic, 
sheer magic.  Thanks to Bill for reminding me.
 
 
      Jeanne
 
  ===-*  My Stars!
 
 
 
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