1998/09/24 19:50
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #679
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 679
Today's Topics:
Re: beware spooky dream kundalini ri [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: Last question [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Re: Last question [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Re: Me again [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Verse VII [ nannuATnospamcombase.com ]
great site for e-groups to be listed [ "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail ]
Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
unsubscibe [ "prem kumar" <prem4ATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG [ Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 09:37:52 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: beware spooky dream kundalini rising
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At 02:55 PM 23/09/98 PDT, Hudson Jackson II wrote:
>
>>Angelique,
>>
>>> You cannot get away from him in your dreams, because the man in
>your
>>> dreams is a reflection of your own self. You must forgive him, or
>love bomb
>>> him into oblivion. Remember, your unconscious mind is male, and it
>presents
>>> you with stuff so you can release it with love.
>>
>>The unconscious only appears as the opposite sex when there is
>>illusion inbetween, defining it as other than the whole self.
Sounds intelligent Paul, but makes no sense at all.. I dunno why you get
so surprised and offended when folks react to you for spewing pompous
sounding nonsense. Illusion in between? Wot?? Gender itself is illusion.
The whole self, when it is attained, is androgyne. Spirit having a human
experience. All that Is is beyond gender. What gender is a rock?
As for what is between.. in the body, usually one side is fem, the other
male, and the line between is the spine where Spirit rises. As Ego gives up
it's illusions, it shrinks and the unconscious side seems to shrink
equally, as the resistance/need for polarity to maintain the illusions
decreases.. and the line of spirit up the middle widens as it absorbs the
polarities.
>
>Paul, Angelique:
>Actually, it's symbolic of the two aspects of a person
>(masculine/feminine). . . isn't it?
>
Hmmmm.. yes and no, depending on where you draw the line of illusion. In
the broadest sense, gender itself is illusion. Everything you see in the
physical world is symbolic of the duality/polarity plane where we exist.
Goddess splitting herself into the illusions of infinite bits in order to
share experiences of love, and the appearance of the absence of love.
Cosmic peek-a boo. The reality is All One energy.
But moving back into the physical.. your ego sense of yourself that is
having all these experiences is identified with the gender you appear to
be, and the great sea of memory of your unconscious, makes for itself an
opposite gender representative to unify with you... or even, a duality of
representatives, light and dark, both loving.
It is all the players in every dream.. and it is also you. The thoughts
of the ego come from the warehouse of All thought which is the unconscious,
and the cosmic collective. The is only One Unconscious..
From the perspective of the ego-self tho.. the unconscious looks like the
soul mate ideal polarity.
Now thinking about this I have blown my own mind.. funny, Goddess thru
me has made many of my clients do this, to see how their minds get blown,
but because I was always focused on them, I have never done it myself in
quite this way.. Thanks, fellas..
Get into your opposite gender self.. your ideal mate, and imagine being
that person, until you feel it. Then use that perspective and look inward
to see how it sees you.. and you will fully understand why it seeks unity
so desperately.. see yourself thru Divine eyes, and you will behold a
shimmering sparking deity of unimaginable beauty.
Very kewl..
>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 15:58:22 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Last question
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>Can it cause people to become sexually attractive to you .......sort of
like
>a magnet effect??? kinda like vibrations or signals going off??? and
if so
>how do you stop it? Should you stop it and how can you tell for sure
that
>is what is happening?
I'm having a similar situation, but I sho' ain't attracting anyone! I'm
always having to deal with it at bedtime, and I have no control over it.
Don't expect to be able to do so, either. I know it's annoying, but you
can't fight it.
If anyone can discuss managing it, please let me know. Mahalo and
'loha!
- Hudson
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:14:22 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca
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Subject: Re: Last question
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>Can it cause people to become sexually attractive to you .......sort of
like
>a magnet effect??? kinda like vibrations or signals going off??? and
if so
>how do you stop it? Should you stop it and how can you tell for sure
that
>is what is happening?
I'm having a similar situation, but I sho' ain't attracting anyone! I'm
always having to deal with it at bedtime, and I have no control over it.
Don't expect to be able to do so, either. I know it's annoying, but you
can't fight it.
If anyone can discuss managing it, please let me know. Mahalo and
'loha!
- Hudson
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:21:29 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Gis,Ihope this breaks through, this thing going on with your breathing.
I
>did not know the kundalini could work this way, until two years ago,
when my
>father developed lung cancer, and for several days after hearing the
news I
>could not breathe,that whole center was blocked. I had the same
experience
>again when he died, and during another emotional loss recently. Does
anybody
>know a mantra for the heart chakra that might behelpful to Gis?
One place you can check out is the Summit Lighthouse site. There are
supposedly "violet flame" mantras that would help. It's at
http://www.tsl.org. I found out during a surf through net space last
week.
- Hudson
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:54:10 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG
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At 01:32 PM 24/09/98 EDT, GISLENNEATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Hi All
>
> you know, I have been unable to breath for two weeks now, in 1 month I
have
>been in the Emergency room twice!! I am now on steroids to keep my lungs
>open...
> I don't really care about the pain, IJUST DESIRE TO BREATH!!!!!!!!!
>Everyday i feel as though in a few seconds i will end up on the Er again, and
>I am afraid they will leave me in there, i can't afford that, i have 4
>children who need me.
> Yes I am married, but kids rely on their Mommy's. Especially the girls, to
>brush their hair.So no, I do not want to go to the hospital...
> I have tried everything. I have tried herbs, have meditated, have tried to
>give myself healing, am taking my meds....whats next, death?
In way, yes.. but you will still be around to care for the girls.
You are having a power chakra opening. Breath is life, and the bellows of
life energy in your being is the power chakra at your diaphragm. The harder
your life has been, the wilder your power chakra opening will be.. because
the power chakra is all about control issues, and thus all of the most
helpless times in your life are coming up to be forgiven, loved, released.
Say "Goddess, please take this from me. It is a gift for you. Thankyou
very much."
What Maureen and Sharon said is true. Darlin', do you know that you are
perfect? Do you like who you are? You are the total of all of your life
experiences, all the furnaces before, were fires to shape you into who you
are now.. and you did plan them before you were born. It was the lack of
love you felt growing up, that caused you to seek love from within.. to
become awakened.
I was talking to someone recently, who has written a book on criminology.
He was telling of his abusive Father.. I helped him to realize that his
strong sense of justice, is actually a gift he received thru the example of
his Father's injustice. He will never be like his Father, because he knows
something his Father did not.. it is when you are the most helpless, that
you are the strongest. When his Father felt helpless and small, he would
try to escape those feelings by exercising his power to hurt.
When you did not care if you lived or died, you won the jelly jar battle.
You surrendered utterly, and won! That memory, is the key to your getting
thru this.
Power chakra is free will vs. divine will for you. This is the death of
your free will.. and the birth of a whole new life, surrendering to Goddess
will for you. Unconditional love and limitless manifestation can always
find a better way, that what your mind can come up with, eh? And always
will, but you have to give up your own vision for that to happen. Use your
free will to give up your free will. Surrender your fears of the future.
Goddess has it handled.
Your reaction to your childhood was to try to have more control, so that
you would not be hurt. The time for that strategy is over. You have been
working very hard to manifest that which you desire.. but all of those
desires must be given up, now.. give them up to Goddess, ask her to take
care of _everything_.
Consider the "accidents" of fate. You could recover from this and be hit
by a bus tomorrow. You cannot control that. If you try to, you'd never
leave the house.. and mebbie fall fatally down the stairs, anyways.. you
cannot control whether you live or die, or whether your daughters do. You
cannot control what another person will think of you, no matter what you
do.. they have free will. You cannot control whether they grow up happy..
they have laid their own plans before birth..
> I'm sorry to sound like I'm giving up, but i feel as though i am unable to
>function, I do not know if this is the Kundalini, cleaning out my lungs....as
>i know i have tons of emotion stored in that area....
It is good strategy to be giving up!! Yes!! Give up! Surrender, already!
Lay down flat and let Goddess do with you as She wills.
Give up your fears.. "Goddess, please take this from me, it is a gift for
you, yours. thankyou." and your desires, too.. in the same way.. all of
them. You know the old cliche, if you love something, set it free.. if it
comes back, it's yours. It is true. What you send out returns multiplied,
but what you give up to Goddess returns multiplied as light. Give up to
Goddess what belongs to Goddess.. and Goddess is All that Is.
> I'm letting everything out here, i hope you all don't mind...
<...> boy i can feel all the emotions I had back then, its as if I'm
>reliving the whole thing!! Damn this is painful...
Let it all out. We are here for you.
All the old hurt places, where it did not feel like the Great Mother held
you safe in Her arms.. coming up to be released, forgiven.. yes, in
technicolor.. been there.. hang in there, just let it out.. get into the
"witness state" if you can, observe the release happening... give thanks
for it. Gratitude heals the power chakra. Keep counting the blessings of
strength and wisdom you gained.
> i wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for my experiences...
>yes, they were hard, and I thought I had gotten over everything, but i guess
>not, I cry with such emotion and I can see my self a s a child when i cry...I
>am wondering if the asthma has to do with this and all the pain also..
Yes, it does. It is the form that the power chakra issues are taking..
not an unusual one.. but it is quite possible that when this is done, you
will never have asthma again.
>but as I
>said i can deal with the pain, its the not being able to breath!! nI feel as
>though i nedd someone to hold me and tell me it is all alright, that they are
>sorry and of course i know they are.
There is One whem you have not forgiven.. Goddess Herself, for allowing
bad things to happen to small children. You have not forgiven her, so you
don't trust that she has the best in mind for you, and those you love.. so
you fear the future.
When you see your self as a child, imagine that child is being held in
Goddess arms, crying on a Divine shoulder and being comforted.
It is alright, it has always been alright, and there is nothing to be
sorry for. The pain of the labors will give birth to a new self that does
not fear harm.
>I'm afraid to cry in front of others...whats going on here?
You are feeling like you are out of control.. which you are.. and this
makes you fear that you will behave in the out of control ways of your
parents.. and tears and being out of control make you feel your
helplessness clearly.. and you fear to show helpless ness lest you be hurt
or taken advantage of, again. You have been carrying a huge weight of
responsibility for a long time.. give that heavy load up to Goddess, all of
it.
Your life is a gift of Goddess. Give up all control, and let Her take
charge of it.
>
> I love you all.......gis
You are loved, here. We are listening, and we understand how it feels.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 20:10:24 -0500
From: nannuATnospamcombase.com
To: "Kundalini-l" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Verse VII
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THE WAY TO SELF-KNOWLEDGE (V.VII)
Repay a tithe of e'en one gift
Out of the countless you receive,
Help someone poor, some fallen lift
Or some afflicted heart relieve.
Try hard to ease by e'en one jot
Distress and sorrow, far or nigh,
If, God forbid, such were your lot,
Would you not for a good friend sigh.
There is no path so safe and sure
To reach the Lord's estate divine,
As this, for e'en the weak and poor
His glory in their hearts enshrine.
Our great Creator did not lack
Material for a happier world.
It is but those who turn their back
To Light who are into error hurled.
Were there no fault or blemish left
For us to exert our skill and brain,
How could we grow more smart and deft
Or more extended knowledge gain?
The noblest men and women born
On earth had this distinctive trait
They helped the poor, weak and forlorn,
As if attracted by a bait
For Heaven our nature keenly tests
For better performance of our part
And our promotion always rests
On how warm is our feeling heart
All lower creatures, trees and plants
This great Law, as a rule, observe,
They meet our needs, fulfill our wants
Or nature's other purpose serve.
Every terrestrial creature plays
A part in this concerted whole,
And many a form, like silkworms, pays
With life, but acts the allotted role.
The one exception to this Rule,
In Nature's altruistic plan,
Is not the lowly animalcule,
But His Exalted Highness - Man.
He robs the earth without regard
To whether what he does is right
Or whether any forces guard
Her wealth and might put up a fight
Believers, nonbelievers act
In this dacoity hand in hand,
As if earth is a barren tract,
A God forsaken, noman's land.
Ah' this impossible creature, Man,
E'en when he is all full of God,
He will not scruple, if he can,
His gracious Maker to defraud.
If in our prayers we admit
That all this world to God belongs,
What then compels us to commit
Mostly for gain such grievous wrongs.
A novel breed of scholars gave
The verdict that there is no God,
In dark yet how their brains behave
To do their thinking, Oh!, how odd.
Can you think of a greater fraud
Than one who knows not how he knows,
And yet in his denial of God,
With one stroke all-knowing grows.
By some inscrutable trick of Fate
We entertain the false belief
That planet earth is our estate,
Our asset and possession chief
Remember that though we despoil
This good earth, it is still alive,
That Deathless life permeates her soil
And that is how we live and thrive.
Remember that His Majesty
In every atom does reside,
And that we pay the penalty,
When on His earth we roughshod ride.
Today the world is torn apart,
Because the learned have no clue
In science, philosophy or art,
What way of life we should pursue.
Should it be power, position, wealth,
Or pleasure or the quest divine,
Or sport or athletics for health,
Or in some noble art to shine.
In former times, the sacred lore
Of most religions of the earth,
The lives of Founders kept before
The flock as models of great worth.
Instinctively the human heart
Receptive keeps itself to hold
Some great one's image dear, in part
At least its life on that to mould.
The hero owes the honour won
For wit, exploit, grit or art
To but this: that whate'er was done
Had captured his admirer's heart.
The reverence and homage won
By Founders of the major creeds,
So far excelled or matched by none,
Came from their teachings and their deeds.
Those who downgraded, in our day,
Religion and what it is for,
They did the first foundation lay,
Unwisely of the coming war.
The vain philosophers who tried
Through reason to disprove the Lord,
And for this on their wit relied
In truth have guilty been of fraud.
For, how can Honesty pronounce
A judgment on a boundless whole,
Of trillions of earths, moons and suns
In which this earth is but a mole?
Friday, September 25, 1998
Author: Gopi Krishna/Verse VII
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Date: 25 Sep 98 02:15:38 +0000
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Subject: Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG
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> Say "Goddess, please take this from me. It is a gift for you. Thankyou
> very much."
Why would you want to give anyone something like that as a gift?
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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 22:30:09 -0400
From: Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG
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Hello Gis, or is it Gislenne?
One of my sister, i love very much, is called Ghislaine. It's a name i like
very much.
Ok, i just wanted to add my two cents. Maybe it can help you.
Have you remarked in the flow of writting your email, how in the first few
sentence you had difficulty breathing writting them. After as you open your
bag and follow the flow, how breathing becomes easiers as you write.. Then
at the end, when after you writte "I thought I had gotten over everything,
but i guess not....", your breathing becomes a bit more difficult again, but
less than at the begening.
Your willingness to breath is strong and an example to me. Thank you from
deep inside.
Antoine
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Date: 24 septembre, 1998 13:37
Subject: Re: Hi all, me again ....LONG
>Hi All
>
> you know, I have been unable to breath for two weeks now, in 1 month I
have
>been in the Emergency room twice!! I am now on steroids to keep my lungs
>open...
> I don't really care about the pain, IJUST DESIRE TO BREATH!!!!!!!!!
>Everyday i feel as though in a few seconds i will end up on the Er again,
and
>I am afraid they will leave me in there, i can't afford that, i have 4
>children who need me.
> Yes I am married, but kids rely on their Mommy's. Especially the girls,
to
>brush their hair.So no, I do not want to go to the hospital...
> I have tried everything. I have tried herbs, have meditated, have tried
to
>give myself healing, am taking my meds....whats next, death?
> I'm sorry to sound like I'm giving up, but i feel as though i am unable
to
>function, I do not know if this is the Kundalini, cleaning out my
lungs....as
>i know i have tons of emotion stored in that area....
> See when i was growing up, I had asthma since the age of 5, my mom
cared,
>but didn't really care, (you know what i mean) she would still take me
places
>that had dogs and cats, knowing that i was allergic to them, my mother nad
>father would wait till I would pass out to take me to the Emergency room, I
>would wake in the hospital room totally naked and Dr.s putting needles in
my
>groin to wake me up...my father was on heroin, and loved having affairs, he
>would beat my mother really bad, my brothers and I would have to watch, we
>starved for days at a time, living on bananas, no furniture, no
>electricity...moving from house to house. Till one day my mother left my
>father and met her new boyfreind who beat her as well and decided to beat
us
>all up with her, I was 10, my brother was 7...my other brother went to live
>with my father, actually he had no choice, my mother left him behind!!
> My mother then got hooked on crack cocaine, i was thrown into the
streets,
>because her boyfriend wanted my bedroom as his office and my brother was
left
>there to suffer, I would always go back though at night and my brother
would
>sneak me inside his room so i could sleep.
> I was raped by a friend, well he didn't actually get to get his penis in
>cause as he said "I was to tight", but in the process he burned me with his
>ciggerette lighter on my arms, i tried to tell my mother but she thought it
>was becuase I was initiated into a gang (if she only knew how shy and
scared I
>was ). My Grand parents wouldn't believe that my mom would have thrown me
>out...so I had to continue to sometimes sleep on rooftops and basements or
>halls whenever my brother couldn't sneak me in.
> I'm letting everything out here, i hope you all don't mind...When i was
let
>back into the house to live, it would be around holiday times, but what
for?
>We weren't allowed to get gifts, have a newyear, we would have to stay in
our
>rooms sleeping, while we heard all of the neighbors celebrating. I remember
>times when my brother and I were locked in closets, I in the closet my
brother
>in the bathroom....if we had to move our bowels really badly we couldn't
until
>my moms boyfriend told us we could.
> Hold on, i'll be back, have to let this out....Okay, I'm back.
> I rememebr one time when i had twisted my ankle and i couldn't walk on
it
>they made me go to the store which was 3 blocks away, it took me a whole
hour
>to walk three blocks, it was soooo painful!! The poeple who owned the
store
>told me that they could not believe that I was sent to the store, because
>while i was in there it took me about 20 minutes just to walk around the
store
>to get what i needed, then it took an hour to get back home, I practically
had
>to hop...boy i can feel all the emotions I had back then, its as if I'm
>reliving the whole thing!! Damn this is painful...
> They used to make me walk to an all girl catholic school, it was about 3
>miles from my house, I used to freeze in the winter, i can still see
myself,
>walking...all by my self...my mothers boyfriend would sometimes follow me
in
>his taxi and I was always scared he would beat me...so i would walk
faster..my
>mother didn't pay the school bill so the nuns would always call me to the
>office and tellme that I didn't belong there, and they would let all the
kids
>know and they would make fun of me or beat me up after school.
> One time my moms boyfriend sent me to the store to buy a jar of jam and
>becuase I bought a jar of jelly he put me in his taxi and held a gun to my
>head and told me he would kill me if I didn't go back in and exchange
it....by
>this time i had told him to go ahead and kill me, I didn't care... and when
I
>saw that he didn't i got out of the car and walked back home.I never
changed
>that jar of jelly.
> Another time he made my brother and I lie flat on the bed and he whipped
us
>with a thick belt right on our buttocks, I rememebr my poor little brother,
he
>got it the worste, he wasn't able to sit for days, I got it all over becase
i
>fought back, then he made us watch as he made my mother kneel on all fours
and
>beat her!!
> When i was in high school I had to wear the same clothes all the time,
>because we were so poor we could not buy clothes, I remember a time before
>high school in public school i was wearing this really short skirt and a
>teacher put his hand under my skirt and started to feel me....I just let
him,
>why? I have no idea!! I have never told anyone about this either!!
> My little brother and I would hide under the steps to our apt building
>because we would not have winter coats and we would freeze so we would cut
>school, we would stay there all day till my mom got home from work.
> Why am i writing all of this? I hsve no idea, i just had to let it all
>out...there is soo much more, but this is what sticks out in my mind right
>now...I do not want pity from anyone, I have forgiven EVERYONEin my past,
>after all. i wouldn't be where I am today if it wasn't for my
experiences...
>yes, they were hard, and I thought I had gotten over everything, but i
guess
>not, I cry with such emotion and I can see my self a s a child when i
cry...I
>am wondering if the asthma has to do with this and all the pain also..but
as I
>said i can deal with the pain, its the not being able to breath!! nI feel
as
>though i nedd someone to hold me and tell me it is all alright, that they
are
>sorry and of course i know they are ...i can share this with my husband,
but
>I'm afraid to cry in front of others...whats going on here?
>
> I love you all.......gis
>
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 16:44:29 -1000 (HST)
From: CM Bailey <bluewater-architectsATnospamerols.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199809250244.QAA14670ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
Greetings and many thanks to those who would care to comment on my experiences.
Let me know if they in any way relate to the Kundalini phenomenom.
As a preface, I'd like to say that from the age of 4 or 5 until my mid-twenties,
I astral projected. It wasn't until I went to college and started reading similar
histories (Cayce et al), that I realized what was happening to me. After a very frightening
experience, I decided to stop the astral body from leaving my physical body. Since that
time I have continued on my pilgrim's progress but without the astral trip. During the
last three years I have had some different experiences which usually begin with my feeling
so fatigued that I must lay down. Once I lay down, it feels as though my body begins to
vibrate at a very high rate. Once the vibration begins, I typically see
visions, hear chanting, etc. The first time that it happened I "saw" many Beings
all around me. There was a female entity who was directly in front of my face.
There was music and the Beings were chanting. The one word that I remember from
the chanting was "Shakti" or something similar. This experience was the most powerful
of the vibrations that I have experienced. For the last year I have not undergone
any further vibes and I must admit that I would like to continue them.
I often regret giving up the astral projecting but at the time my lack of understanding
stood in my way. Knowlege is power! I would be most greatful for any insights that
you may have regarding the above and any similarities with what you have experienced.
Thank you.
CM
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