1998/09/22 16:21
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #673
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 673
Today's Topics:
Re: evidence II [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
unsubscribe [ Tamara Robinson <sojourn8ATnospamtelusplan ]
Re: evidence II [ Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
Paul, my son [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Re: Re: evidence II or Memoirs of my [ YahseyesATnospamaol.com ]
Verse V [ nannuATnospamcombase.com ]
Opposites [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Opposites [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
Re: Re: evidence II or Memoirs of my [ Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
Re: Warm fuzzies please... [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Earth, sun and intention [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: Earth, sun and intention [ YahseyesATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Warm fuzzies please...(Parental [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
Gotta go [ amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us ]
Re: creative block??? [ beisamATnospamjuno.com (a s) ]
Remote Viewing [ "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail ]
Date: 22 Sep 98 15:26:10 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: evidence II
Message-Id: <OUT-3607C192.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Antoine,
> Hello Mike,
>
> Take a cloud in the sky and imagine your are made of ice in a world made of
> ice.
You talk of possibilities so I thought I'd ask about that. I myself am
a man of possibilities, I find myself to be creative and evasive and
resourceful and inventive and lots of other not necessarily good
things. I was thinking that perhaps it is one thing to be interested
in what is /possible/, but another to see what is /actual/. For
example, as part of my openness to possibility I find that I am close
minded to any actual openness, or that my love of easy possibility is
contrary to achieving what I am truly capable of. What do you think?
--
Paul.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:13:25 -0600
From: Tamara Robinson <sojourn8ATnospamtelusplanet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsubscribe
Message-ID: <3607BE95.EABATnospamtelusplanet.net>
unsubcribe
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:14:20 -0400
From: Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: Paul <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: evidence II
Message-id: <01bde63b$ac72b720$8e75fdcfATnospamantoine>
>Antoine,
>You talk of possibilities so I thought I'd ask about that. I myself am
>a man of possibilities, I find myself to be creative and evasive and
>resourceful and inventive and lots of other not necessarily good
>things. I was thinking that perhaps it is one thing to be interested
>in what is /possible/, but another to see what is /actual/. For
>example, as part of my openness to possibility I find that I am close
>minded to any actual openness, or that my love of easy possibility is
>contrary to achieving what I am truly capable of. What do you think?
Paul.
I think it's not important what i think.
Antoine
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 11:21:57 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Paul, my son
Message-ID: <36078855.D0B789F8ATnospammhonline.net>
Dear Uwe,
Sending love, good thoughts and many blessings to your son.
More Light,
+ Maureen
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:04:01 EDT
From: YahseyesATnospamaol.com
To: carreaATnospamvideotron.ca, Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
Bradley.SpeechleyATnospamjcu.edu.au, YesNYCityATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Re: evidence II or Memoirs of my Mental Illness
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Hmmm, Antoine has an interesting way of explaining collasped electrons. I
never heard it done that way but it does fit the way I understand it.
However, he/her <-? brings up a point that has always bothered me. If the
heat brings the ice cube cloud to its form of mist, are we than to assume that
this is the absolute "real" form? I have been under the assumption that there
is only one reality and therefore only one truth, reality=truth. On one
derivitive from that assumption, : There can only be one right way to do
something and many wrong ways. So if we look at leading a "right" life, the
odds are pretty stacked against us of getting it correct.
My very good friend whom I mentioned who is into Eckankar and worshiping some
Master person in Minnesota as her only obvious defect, looks at this
assumption and adds that for every wrong thing, it exists because it is
validated by its opposite, which is a perfectly diametrically opposed "right"
thing. A complete one to one balance in the universe of all. Taking away the
values of "right" "wrong", "good, "bad", etc and looking at it only as
opposites, "plus" to "minus", this kind of makes sense. After all, electricity
does work. Being a number person and taking as truth the reality than
anything can be reflected as a number(s) (including the number itself...hmm),
and that chaos = plus and minus pi, and order and being = all other numbers
(+ and -) except zero, and zero = the symbol of "not being", things do seem to
hold together.
So my drawn out question to the list, (sorry list), which one is correct; is
there only one reality and one truth for all everywhere and forever, OR is
every truth balanced by its perfect untruth, and really only relative to the
observer?
A second question, if all is balanced by it's (dualality) opposite, then the
universe would be at a state of perfect rest, EG -> dead. For the absolute
(God) to manifest in matter, there would have to be a unique point of "no
opposite" (the number 0 does not have an opposite) in order to experience
action and imbalance with the desire toward balance being a never ending
activity. It would then be imperative that this imbalance never be balanced
because the attainment of equalibrium would equate to God destroying God. Our
goal and purpose in life as concious manifestations of God then becomes to
make absolutely certain that in the eternal war of good versus evil, it is
imperative that neither side wins.???
Given the above, is this what is meant by the illusion of the opposites and if
so, where is the non-illusion?
Thanks for reading this far. Lou
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:11:35 -0500
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Subject: Verse V
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The last verse that I sent, said Verse III, but it was actually Verse IV. I
forgot to change it in the subject line - My apologies for any confusion
this may create.
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:45:30 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Opposites
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Lou wrote:
>I have been under the assumption that there
>is only one reality and therefore only one truth, reality=truth. On one
>derivitive from that assumption, : There can only be one right way to do
>something and many wrong ways. So if we look at leading a "right" life,
the
>odds are pretty stacked against us of getting it correct.
I think that assuming there is only reality stems from hubris. As beings
stuck in the flypaper of linear time, it is difficult for us to imagine that
we live within an illusion.
>My very good friend whom I mentioned who is into Eckankar and worshiping
some
>Master person in Minnesota as her only obvious defect, looks at this
>assumption and adds that for every wrong thing, it exists because it is
>validated by its opposite, which is a perfectly diametrically opposed
"right"
>thing. A complete one to one balance in the universe of all.
"Validation by opposites" is to take belief in illusion to its extremes. To
me, it's like a child building a sand castle and then dropping a brick on it
to prove that it is real.
>Being a number person and taking as truth the reality than
>anything can be reflected as a number(s) (including the number
itself...hmm),
>and that chaos = plus and minus pi, and order and being = all other
numbers
>(+ and -) except zero, and zero = the symbol of "not being", things do seem
to
>hold together.
Zero, symbolically, means an emptiness that is paradoxically a fullness. It
is defined in "The Dictionary of Symbols" as..."From the viewpoint of man in
existence, it symbolizes death as the state in which the life-forces are
transformed. Because of its circular form it signifies eternity."
>So my drawn out question to the list, (sorry list), which one is correct;
is
>there only one reality and one truth for all everywhere and forever, OR is
>every truth balanced by its perfect untruth, and really only relative to
the
>observer?
Why do you assume that either is correct?
>A second question, if all is balanced by it's (dualality) opposite, then
the
>universe would be at a state of perfect rest, EG -> dead. For the absolute
>(God) to manifest in matter, there would have to be a unique point of "no
>opposite" (the number 0 does not have an opposite) in order to experience
>action and imbalance with the desire toward balance being a never ending
>activity. It would then be imperative that this imbalance never be
balanced
>because the attainment of equalibrium would equate to God destroying God.
Our
>goal and purpose in life as concious manifestations of God then becomes to
>make absolutely certain that in the eternal war of good versus evil, it is
>imperative that neither side wins.???
Haven't you answered your own question here? Consider chaos theory for a
moment. Without the dynamics of chaotic imbalance, life cannot exist.
Biologically, a perfectly regular heart beat reflects a sick heart---one
that is beginning to die.
And yet if we delve deeply enough into chaos, we realize that chaos, as we
generally conceive of it, does not exist. Underlying patterns always
emerge.
Stasis is death whether we speak of people or theories or God.
>Given the above, is this what is meant by the illusion of the opposites and
if
>so, where is the non-illusion?
Opposites are man-made constructs, I think. Born of limited perception and
the illusion of linear time.
Sharon
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 13:09:02 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Opposites
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Lou...my first sentence should read....
>>I think that assuming there is only ONE reality stems from hubris. As
beings
stuck in the flypaper of linear time, it is difficult for us to imagine that
we live within an illusion.
Sharon
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 14:30:33 -0400
From: Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: YahseyesATnospamaol.com, Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com,
Bradley.SpeechleyATnospamjcu.edu.au, YesNYCityATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Re: evidence II or Memoirs of my Mental Illness
Message-id: <01bde657$15cde440$8e75fdcfATnospamantoine>
Hello Lou,
>So my drawn out question to the list, (sorry list), which one is correct;
is
>there only one reality and one truth for all everywhere and forever, OR is
>every truth balanced by its perfect untruth, and really only relative to
the
>observer?
I don't think that as long as there is an observer one can resolve that
question in a walking interacting body as we know it yet. From experience i
learn to give myself more and more to the Goddess. I melt myself from ever
deeper within to all that is. It's an infinite process, with only limits and
beautifull horizons of balance between abyss and skys to find.
As long as i identify myself to my body i am limited, it does not make the
trip less enjoyable.
The questions you are raising where more deeply aborded than i can do by
Danijel and Kat, in the tread "we need to define negativity".
---
For those who have enought with logic, no need to read any futher.
Now lest play a bit :)
I use maths as a tool to break some of my archetypes opens, it can be a trap
as well as a tool of art to me.
About the number One. Something exist outside the number One. An "entity" (a
concept close to that of the number one in multiplication) that contains the
one reality you mention and the world of balanced multitude, the all or
infinite world. Such an Entity containing both, is outside the concept of
One, can we uncollapse to this entity? That is for each one of us to find
out, it must come from within.
>zero = the symbol of "not being", things do seem to hold together.
In addition zero is neutral, in multiplication it absorbs. One is neutral in
multiplication.
Lets say that the derivative of identity (=), that is addition (+),
represents the formation of ego.
Ego being the action of finding out that (A = A) and (A is not equal to Not
A) Aristotle
0 as no effect on ego (A + 0 = A). Ego cannot feel 0
Let's say the process of opening oneself to Goddess (=0) is multiplication
(A x 0 = 0) But that is way to fast, a nuclear bomb does not open as fast
to Goddess :).
So we find other paterns of opening closer to life like:
(A^0 = 1) or even better with e=2.71..... (e^0=1) Where 1 would be the
Personnal God, the guru within. And e a natural constant tied to evolution
on this plane.
>Given the above, is this what is meant by the illusion of the opposites and
if
>so, where is the non-illusion?
A small story about creation, using the arrow of time. It's inspired by some
readings from Ryazanovy.
Before there was no time, no now
Came the fall and matter
Action reaction was felt, the now born
Complexity came
A melting ice cube felt a flow, change in melting
The arrow of time was born.
Complexity became
The two sign of time became reality
Past and futur where felt by the emprisonned mind.
Evolution was on its way
Complex mind where born
Who could see far in the past and far in the futur
Creating more and more a vertigo looking in the now
Slowlly the minds are coming to see that if they are two sign to time,
Past and futur,
Why can't there be more than one possible futur?
>From the now more and more multiple arrows of time start pointing.
But where are those futur leading?
Which one do i chose from the now?
Slowlly the multiple arrows of time point to what is,
A new _no time_ for the complex mind.
Is it different than before there was time?
Only when you remember time...
Antoine
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 09:55:24 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Lucius" <dartanATnospamvoyager.net>
Cc: "kundalini people" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
"Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Warm fuzzies please...
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Thankyou both for your kindness. It is warmly appreciated.
Um.. but.. Michigan is about 3000 miles from my hearing in Seattle, isn't
it?? Vancouver is on the West coast.. Michigan is below Ontario towards the
East coast, isn't it?
I am collecting notarized affidavits.. there is some chance that the
judge won't accept the email statements.. they like things that are
notarized. Anyone willing to send my lawyer a notarized statement of my
wonderfulness, before Friday, is applauded. Also seeking Seattle based
witnesses.. Thankyou very much!
At 10:38 AM 11/09/98 -0400, Lucius wrote:
Boadacia wrote:
> Maybe I could lend my voice in some way?
>>We need more open minded people here...even if they are just visiting.
>>Please let me know.
>>Blessed bee...
>>Bodacia
>
>i live in michigan too, about as far from the border as well. maybe if we
>get a mob of people to meet you we'll get something done. :)
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 12:24:21 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Earth, sun and intention
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Greetings k readers: save this for later if you are in a rush.
Guy needs me to write this down anyway, and we thought you might find it
of interest. So we come to share a vision Guy had yesterday, following
our small burst of animal e-mail. We welcome your response (though note
right at the outset that it is not scientifically derived) and reaction.
All beings, from single cell to human, exist, each with its individual
identity and life force. (Do you think the cloned cows are simply an
extension of the original genetic matter of the primary carrier
(mother), or what?? Proof that we could exist in two places at once,
really. k) The life energy's source derives from the earth's core. The
knowledge that is imparted by the tumultuous interaction of earth, air,
water and sunshine is essentially the same for us all - all species are
united in their sharing of this process, for it is the cycle which
allows us to grow and be. The specific knowledge each species carries
is supported and mothered by the earth. For here lies the creative
brilliance in everything. Fed by the sun, which is the source of pure
energy and potential(on this plane anyway), the earth is the bearer of
intention.
(Guy says - and I am speechless over here. Overwhelmed. It's too big
for my intellect. My heart is open and this knowing is just pouring
out...)
Only man has perfected the ability to cut off his connection to the
universal language of oneness with all things and beings. Everything we
do which is destructive to the earth, we commit against ourselves. It
is not our conscious intellects who hold up and create the universe.
Rather, the awesome knowledge that allows us to recreate our own form
is, in truth, the sole soul creator.
We do not know for certain what levels of consciousness animals achieve,
but individuals within species have extraordinary abilities to
communicate telepathically. These animals vary, just as humans do,
along the kundalini path. They have chakras, and many animal heart
chakras I have felt make the common human one seem undeveloped in
comparison. Their experience of the divine is unquestionable.
Throughout the higher order of animals, at any rate, this theory
applies. All respond to love, and love is nothing more or less than
divine energy. (And I have to mention that I was taught this summer by
Lindsey, Guy's daughter who is 7, that periwinkles will come out of
their shells if you humm to them beseechingly..)
Animals are generally not blocked, unless people or circumstances
distort them, and they experience divine energy to exactly the degree
they allow, much as we humans do, or do not, allow it. Humans carry the
largest burden: the intellect. It stands in the way of knowing that
which unifies the animal kingdom, that of which we are a critical and
essential part. We are separated from our source, our common path of
growth which is intricately intertwined with all the forms of life
around us. This separation is the equivalent of death. (The horse who
is not accepted in the herd is isolated, left alone.) Here lies our
delusion, in its greatest sense: while we place ourselves above, the
intellect plows over divine will. The rational mind effectively kills
the mother. Our insensitivity grows from our refusal to acknowledge
that our abuses to others are a reflection of how we treat ourselves.
For it is our divine selves who combine the love of the mother (earth)
with energy from the father (moon). Human and all other beings are
simply an expression of the earth's desire and intention to replicate
its knowing. The earth exists to create and put into form its knowing
and the truth of love.
Anger is an emotional connection to distorted love. A lack of compassion
marks it. Self-defense often accompanies it. A deep sense of self as
other prevails with anger. We in human form have chosen a unique time
to become aware of ourselves and to allow the shift of the generational
destructive thought patterns we are handed. And we do so by sharing
what we know about energy, knowledge and light. We are healing the
planet as we become aware, just as our immune systems become stronger
following disease - for we are to the planet as cells are to the body.
(I wanted to tie in some clever comment about decribing never capturing
the elegance and beauty of the actual experience, but Guy says it's ok.
just send it. But you know, the words are seriously limiting.) much
love and great light to you, katrina & Guy
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:58:13 EDT
From: YahseyesATnospamaol.com
To: tantriciskATnospamHotmail.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Earth, sun and intention
Message-ID: <e30c200c.36080155ATnospamaol.com>
That was beautiful. Thank you. The more I read the comments on the list the
more I appreciate it. Here I found, as a newcomer, as long as one is sincere
and willing to share, to give as well as to take, this list allows me to
experience spritual growth and curiosity unconditionally. I don't know if I
ever knew anyone close enough in person for me to speak of things as freely as
I do with you very beautiful people whom I will never meet. This is a sacred
outlet, a place to hear all the answers and ask all the questions, human
soul-friends speaking to me as one being growing from the interactions.
I found out about this list through my connections in the Tantric realm and it
does honor to my acknowledgement of the physical as well as the spiritual
aspects of life. In the couple of weeks I have been on the list, I have not
seen even one message on any topic dealing exclusively with the physical.
Every post has dealt with each side. It is so beautiful to see God in action.
Thank you all
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:14:53 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Warm fuzzies please...(Parental Advisory:Explicit Content)
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>>Mys...
>>I live in Michigan...about an hour from the border. Is there anything I
>>could do to help? Perhaps meet you at the border? Afterall, I am an
>>American citizen and a Witch. Maybe I could lend my voice in some way?
>>We need more open minded people here...even if they are just visiting.
>>Please let me know.
>>Blessed bee...
>>Bodacia
>
>i live in michigan too, about as far from the border as well. maybe if we
>get a mob of people to meet you we'll get something done. :)
>
Seems like a lot of people on this list live in Michigan, or have lived here in the
past. Maybe we should be redesignated the Kundalini State. I'm sitting about 2 blocks from Lake Huron myself. I remember many many years ago (early 70's
maybe) reading an account where some people took a globe of the world and
showed it to some enlightened being (i can't remember anymore if it was some
famous yogi, or a recluse sitting in a cave somewhere) to see what he'd make
of it.....and he pointed to Michigan, indicating the lower peninsula as a sacred
spot which he compared to the flame of a candle providing light to the world.
It would also seem natural that those of us who grew up going to MC5 (Kick Out
the Jams Mother Fuckers!!!) and Stooges (Iggy Pop) concerts would be having
K awakenings. Looks like the younger generation is surging along too. I for one
would be glad to join a Shakti filled mob at the border to demonstrate for Angelique. Vancouver, however, is nowhere near Michigan. I do kind of miss
that old Michigan rock seen, so if someone wants to organize a Shakti filled
mob scene for whatever reason, count me in.
Rick
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 17:47:57 -0500
From: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Gotta go
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My email account is being yanked at work, so the very next message I send
will be to unsubscribe. Please don't send personal comments to the above
address, because I probably won't receive them. I still owe some of you
personal replies... And I'll "be around", at least in spirit. Hopefully new
employment is on the horizon... Applying for two new jobs as we speak. Warm
fuzzies to you all.
smooches,
amckeon
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 15:55:18 -0700
From: beisamATnospamjuno.com (a s)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: creative block???
Message-ID: <19980922.155519.-84111.0.beisamATnospamjuno.com>
A Big Thank You !! to all who responded to my concerns about my
possible creative block, I am feeling more myself in general today and
hope to soon respond to each of you.
Specificly however, for those who have questioned my forgiveness toward
my ex, and letting go of the anger for his selling my paintings...
this took place during a time in my life when I swallowed anger as
readily as I did water... I dont do much of this any longer.... my anger
towards this man is not an issue any longer. I dont especially miss the
*type* of art I did in those days, then, I felt a need to make pretty,
likable, suitable paintings....
I much prefere the free and easy, who- gives- a -poop -what -what -it
-looks-like paintings and drawings that flow so effortlessly when I am in
that *quiet space* in my head... floating along without a care....
filling a page with colors and moods and places that I percieve only in
those moments when nothing but the quiet matters....
I am now in a comfortable lifestyle with supportive people, for the
greater part who encourage my self expression, they often share the
stories with visitors of how they came about and, to my surprise, they
also use them, as I do, as a sort of "thought for the day" ... They have
in the past *offered* to sell them *for* me but respect my desire to keep
them or give them away (my doodles are like a journal for me)
I am wondering if it is possible that with all the changes in my life
over the last number of years, which the paintings helped me get through,
that I might be leveling off a bit, and need just to soak up what I
already got. Kind of getting back into the "real" world a little more to
apply what I have learned.
And maybe when the need arises, as the next wave rolls in : ) then I will
have this special back up ready and waiting to help take up that excess
slack... ?
sendin' ya all rainbows,
freda
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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 16:01:22 PDT
From: "zarcon pitom" <zarconpitomATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Remote Viewing
Message-ID: <19980922230122.4424.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Has anyone checked http://www.paradigm-sys.com/firedocs/
i was i am i will be
zarcon
i am of the ages
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