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1998/09/16 20:11
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #659


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 659

Today's Topics:
  I'm back [ Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Darren Hayes <retro68ATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Thanks [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
  Re: Light and Vibration [ Ananda <pippiATnospammetrolink.net> ]
  Re: Thanks [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
  Re: Desperately Need Your Help [ "Krishna" <ashramATnospamindo.net.id> ]
  To list: [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
  Re: Reiki [ "Cruise Control" <mandd435d0ATnospamhotmai ]
  Re: To list: [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ]
  Re: To list: [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
  Re: Freda's big white bird [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  on turning it down [ spaz27ATnospamas-if.com ]
  Re: Freda's big white bird [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
  moving energy up from 1st chakra [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  reiki help [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Introduction and search for informat [ Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au> ]
  Re: your owl family/dreams [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: To list [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  to list [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Re: to list [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: To list: [ "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com ]
  (no subject) [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 01:57:46 -0400
From: Antoine Carre <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: Lobster <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>,
 Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: I'm back
Message-id: <01bde136$edc47240$36df60cfATnospamconcentric>

Dear Lobster, it's always nice to hear you.

You are my guide in not being a guide
A teacher in not being a teacher :)

Antoine
"Yoga which gives emancipation, which destroys the sense of separateness
which is the root of Desire, is to be made by the concentration of every
element of one's being, and annihilating it by intimate combustion with the
universe itself"
>From Yoga for Yahoos http://deoxy.org/annex/8yoga2.htm

>Dear Guide,
>I am a miracle
>and of course
>wish or not
>teach or guide
>No one.
>
>
>Be Well
>Lobster Love
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:13:30 -1000 (HST)
From: Darren Hayes <retro68ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199809160613.UAA00556ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Greetings all,

I wish to know of any bodies or organizisations which teach kundaliini yoga in Sydney,Australia.My extensive searches have been in vain so far,so any information would be greatly appreciated.

Sincerly,

Darren Hayes
e-mail retro68ATnospamhotmail.com
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 22:46:25 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Thanks
Message-Id: <199809161044.WAA25964ATnospamsmtp1.ihug.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi everyone

thanks for you guys advice/experience and light. Com'eirrrr*big hug*

I understand that we all work in different ways, and those of us who heal
as full time do need to make a living out of it and therefore charge what
they believe it reasonable.
There are also people/teachers who charge beyond the reach of the average
person to teach healing or do healing, that is their choice and I need to
learn to respect that aswell.
I also note that healing comes from within, it comes from our love towards
others.

I think that is about it...oh and don't step on that poor ant!!

With love and hormones
Charan
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 07:21:49 -0700
From: Ananda <pippiATnospammetrolink.net>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Light and Vibration
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980916072149.007c9a60ATnospampost.metrolink.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Dear Love

As I teach
I Learn

There is no seperation in Truth

Peace to our mind


In Devotion to Love
I AM
Jo Ann/Ananda
ICQ#15294231

home page:
  http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2610/
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 08:57:31 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 "Siva" <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Thanks
Message-ID: <001801bde0c1$8c791f60$2f29baccATnospamhvnlytch>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hey'I'm trying not to trip looking down at the ants!!!!!!RevDenise
-----Original Message-----
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: Kundalini - L <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 3:43 AM
Subject: Thanks

>
>Hi everyone
>
>thanks for you guys advice/experience and light. Com'eirrrr*big hug*
>
>I understand that we all work in different ways, and those of us who heal
>as full time do need to make a living out of it and therefore charge what
>they believe it reasonable.
>There are also people/teachers who charge beyond the reach of the average
>person to teach healing or do healing, that is their choice and I need to
>learn to respect that aswell.
>I also note that healing comes from within, it comes from our love towards
>others.
>
>I think that is about it...oh and don't step on that poor ant!!
>
>With love and hormones
>Charan
>
>
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:35:12 +0700
From: "Krishna" <ashramATnospamindo.net.id>
To: "kundalini-1" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Desperately Need Your Help
Message-ID: <000601bde17f$3a954840$48099fcaATnospamashram.indo.net.id>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Dear Ones,

Due to monetary crisis and political upheavel, our currency has depreciated
by 400%. It is becoming v.v.difficult to update our library (presently has
about 4,000 titles). Almost unimagenable to buy imported books. Anyone
there having used books (on Spirituality, Philosophy, Religion) and would
like to donate to our library ?

We are in immediate need for :

MATHNAWI by Jalaluddin Rumi (TR. R.A.Nicholson) - 3 Volumes
FROM ALPHA TO OMEGA by Osho (Bhagawan Rajneesh) - complete set

Please help !

Loves - krishna
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:52:17 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: To list:
Message-ID: <35FFECC0.B567B5D8ATnospamnetrax.net>

I ask that someone on the list with more knowledge than me would please
answer Soulo's
question. There seem to be another crisis here right now. My grandson
will probably be having his finger amputated in the next few days. I
can't think of much to say. My thoughts are elsewhere.
    Much love,
barb
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 10:33:50 PDT
From: "Cruise Control" <mandd435d0ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Reiki
Message-ID: <19980916173350.25400.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Dear Maureen,
Thank you for your help. I will write you in a week to check in my
progress. The "St. Mary Hospital" in MD near where I live is sponsoring
a Reiki class. I sign up for it and would like to learn. The reason is
that I have an older sister and she is having mental problem. She was
admited several times in the last 20 years and compound with a boy that
is austistic. It is very dificult for her because she does not speak the
english well. Counseling does not go well when you can not communicate.
I beleive in the Higher Healing Energy and would like to help her and
her son out.

I have been guided the K. list for a few months and found it very
helpful. Definitely I am on the right path.

Don Nguyen

>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:04:00 +0000
>From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
>Reply-To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
>To: Cruise Control <mandd435d0ATnospamhotmail.com>
>Subject: Re: Reiki
>
>Don,
>I will place your name on my altar. I didn't get much pick up from your
>letter except I'm interested in finding out why you wake up at 3:30
a.m.
>with bad allergies. Scientificaly=something in the bedroom?? Search
this
>down because I believe the allergy and hurting joints are connected. I
>am sending reiki to you in hopes that these two can be solved and
>eliminated and then in perhaps a week write me back and I will
>concentrate on your back. Having gone through a spinal fusion of 5
>vertebrates I empathsize with you and your pain.
>Don, I don't do reiki I try to remain an instrument. Technically yes it
>is reiki but I would much rather you think of it as Higher Healing
>Energy coming to you hopefully through me. Be thankful to the Higher
>Source. Know what I mean?
>Trust in the blessings and gifts of the Holy Spirit Mother.
>Sending you more Light.
>Rev. Maureen
>
>Cruise Control wrote:
>>
>> Dear Maureen,
>>
>> I can help but notice that you do Reiki. I injured my back a few
years
>> back and it bother me when I sit to meditate. Also my joints hurt
like
>> arthritis but it is not. I have a bad case of allergy every morning
at
>> 3:30am.
>> Could you help me???
>>
>> Don Quy Nguyen
>> Leonardtown, MD
>>
>> Thanks
>>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:11:30 PDT
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
Subject: Re: To list:
Message-ID: <19980916191130.10758.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Dear Barb:

Send me your grandson's name and age, I will send Reiki to him and the
situation. What is the reason for the amputation?

Will do all I can to help you both, dear.

Love, -Jim


----Original Message Follows----
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:52:17 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
Reply-To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: To list:

I ask that someone on the list with more knowledge than me would please
answer Soulo's
question. There seem to be another crisis here right now. My grandson
will probably be having his finger amputated in the next few days. I
can't think of much to say. My thoughts are elsewhere.
    Much love,
barb

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 15:35:06 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>,
 <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
Subject: Re: To list:
Message-ID: <000a01bde0f9$176f71a0$3629baccATnospamhvnlytch>
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Barb, I and my students will send reiki if yuo send me his name and
state,RevDenise
-----Original Message-----
From: jim privacy <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>;
nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 12:11 PM
Subject: Re: To list:

>Dear Barb:
>
>Send me your grandson's name and age, I will send Reiki to him and the
>situation. What is the reason for the amputation?
>
>Will do all I can to help you both, dear.
>
>Love, -Jim
>
>
>
>----Original Message Follows----
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 12:52:17 -0400
>From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
>Reply-To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
>To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
>Subject: To list:
>
>I ask that someone on the list with more knowledge than me would please
>answer Soulo's
>question. There seem to be another crisis here right now. My grandson
>will probably be having his finger amputated in the next few days. I
>can't think of much to say. My thoughts are elsewhere.
> Much love,
>barb
>
>
>
>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 13:41:15 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: dax23ATnospamjuno.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird
Message-ID: <19980916204116.20760.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>To: happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com
>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:03:51 -0600
>Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird
>From: dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal)
>
>Greetin's M' Lady Barb,
>
>Me was a thinkin' that this bird was a happinin' in here
>day dream, which we be a callin' real, not that this matters
>in terms o' symbol playin'.

 Agree doesn't matter, at least in my experience. The first time i
"received" an animal totem was when driving in Hawaii from Hilo t o
Kona on Saddle road btween 2 volcanoes(Moana Loa and Moana Kea).
All at once to the right of our car(husband was driving) A Huge white
owl appeared. asked hubby to slow down and he matched the owl(pueo)
speed. The owl cintinued flying parallel to car for several mintues even
fling thru several pine trees mini-groves.
   Years later I was told by a Kahuna in Hilo (who was amazed) that this
is a very important thing to happen, especially to me, as in this life
i'm a californian. ACree shaman in my home town said this was wonderful,
that the white owl is my totem!!! Since then I see (with eyes open)
owls' faces in rocks(Cree does to when he looks at rock after me.Have
found two dead owls this year one in Oregon and other a 20 min. drive
from my home.
 Me does not have egrets in me
>book as a specific meanin'. Methinks since it was a happinin'
>while she was a walkin' 'er dog, that it be more ta catch
>'er attention ta the spiritual side o' thin's than ta be a specific
>symbol scene.

YESSS, sure does catch one's attention.

  That be me take on it.
>
>God's Grin to ye...
>
>*********Ahau Akbal**********
>"Curves are happens when a
> line starts having fun!"
>
>> Hi,
>> 'was just reading your response to Freda's post. Haven't read hers
>>yet. But i was wondering if the bird was really a crane , or was it a
>>cattle egret??? and could it be trying to bring her wisdom and keeping
>>
>>things(problems )in balance??? Just curious are egrets in your book?
>>
>> be well, stay happy, barb
>>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:51:55 -0500
From: spaz27ATnospamas-if.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: on turning it down
Message-Id: <199809162136.QAA06074ATnospama.mx.execpc.com>

>> Cruise Control (high, obviously, can you turn it down?):
>> Dear Maureen,
>>
>> I can help but notice that you do Reiki. I injured my back a few
>> years back and it bother me when I sit to meditate. Also my
>> joints hurt like arthritis but it is not. I have a bad case of
>> allergy every morning at 3:30am.
>> Could you help me???

Time of obviously of concern, so let's go with that presumption
maybe you can see, as I have seen, that if this problem does
not cease by 2:43pm tomorrow then you will have the all information
you need to be cured. Meanwhile, you should lay off the grass
and get some rest. Please.
Sincerely, Leon Hunter ROTGL


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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:15:11 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>, <dax23ATnospamjuno.com>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird
Message-ID: <002601bde10f$7744d280$3929baccATnospamhvnlytch>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

I was hopeing that it means the same for everyone,
     I recently had a very vivid vision in dream time state,My daughter and
I were sitting on a grassy patch next to the woods and out of the path way a
few big owls and some baby ones landed and came over to us and we fed them
and the one latched on to my finger It didn't hurt but he did that,it was so
beautiful,I have had many animal incounters this year while k was
awakening,I especially love those dreams there so peaceful RevDenise
-----Original Message-----
From: b bah <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: dax23ATnospamjuno.com <dax23ATnospamjuno.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Wednesday, September 16, 1998 1:42 PM
Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird

>
>
>>To: happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com
>>Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 00:03:51 -0600
>>Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird
>>From: dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal)
>>
>>Greetin's M' Lady Barb,
>>
>>Me was a thinkin' that this bird was a happinin' in here
>>day dream, which we be a callin' real, not that this matters
>>in terms o' symbol playin'.
>
> Agree doesn't matter, at least in my experience. The first time i
>"received" an animal totem was when driving in Hawaii from Hilo t o
>Kona on Saddle road btween 2 volcanoes(Moana Loa and Moana Kea).
>All at once to the right of our car(husband was driving) A Huge white
>owl appeared. asked hubby to slow down and he matched the owl(pueo)
>speed. The owl cintinued flying parallel to car for several mintues even
>fling thru several pine trees mini-groves.
> Years later I was told by a Kahuna in Hilo (who was amazed) that this
>is a very important thing to happen, especially to me, as in this life
>i'm a californian. ACree shaman in my home town said this was wonderful,
>that the white owl is my totem!!! Since then I see (with eyes open)
>owls' faces in rocks(Cree does to when he looks at rock after me.Have
>found two dead owls this year one in Oregon and other a 20 min. drive
>from my home.
> Me does not have egrets in me
>>book as a specific meanin'. Methinks since it was a happinin'
>>while she was a walkin' 'er dog, that it be more ta catch
>>'er attention ta the spiritual side o' thin's than ta be a specific
>>symbol scene.
>
>YESSS, sure does catch one's attention.
>
> That be me take on it.
>>
>>God's Grin to ye...
>>
>>*********Ahau Akbal**********
>>"Curves are happens when a
>> line starts having fun!"
>>
>>> Hi,
>>> 'was just reading your response to Freda's post. Haven't read hers
>>>yet. But i was wondering if the bird was really a crane , or was it a
>>>cattle egret??? and could it be trying to bring her wisdom and keeping
>>>
>>>things(problems )in balance??? Just curious are egrets in your book?
>>>
>>> be well, stay happy, barb
>>>
>>>______________________
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>>>
>>
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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 16:23:55 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: takeuchiATnospamcgl.ucsf.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: moving energy up from 1st chakra
Message-ID: <19980916232356.24506.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

Hello,
I.ve tried moving energy up the front channel, ususally unsuccessful,
sometimes as far as the heart. At least thats what i sense. Could you
please post instructions on how you do this the K list???? Or at least
to me?
    How /where did you learn to do this? Bay Area I hope, as I live in
Concord.
     bye,barb

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:30:06 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: reiki help
Message-ID: <36001FCE.D5D9D0B3ATnospammhonline.net>

Cruise Control,
Don,
You are more than welcome. Do start the class and do not feel you have
to wait a week to contact me if you'd enjoy talking but let's not waste
the bandwidth.Write to me at morlight adress, K?
Blessings.
+ Maureen
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:40:27 +1000 (EST)
From: Mike <Michael.GoodwinATnospamjcu.edu.au>
To: Kundalini Group <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Introduction and search for information
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.3.96.980917103552.21652A-100000ATnospambarra.jcu.edu.au>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi, I was searching the web and I saw the site on Kundalini. I read a
fictitious book years about called the Kundalini Equation (author
forgotten) and I wanted to know if the book had any basis in truth. re:
chackras, what they are and how to stimulate them. Also about chakra
outspiraling? I have never experienced kundalini before and would like to
take this from an objective perspective (as objective as one can get in a
subjectiove experience :) ). I seek instructions and wish to experiment.
To any that can help I thank thee, and remain,
Yours Sincerely,

Michael J. Goodwin

     You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me

 [art-mjg4ATnospamJCU.edu.au]

Department of Psychology
 James Cook University
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 17:51:30 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: htminATnospamptdprolog.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: your owl family/dreams
Message-ID: <19980917005130.8458.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>Reply-To: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
>From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
>To: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>,
> <dax23ATnospamjuno.com>
>Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
>Subject: Re: Freda's big white bird
>Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:15:11 -0700
>
>I was hopeing that it means the same for everyone,
> I recently had a very vivid vision in dream time state,My daughter
and
>I were sitting on a grassy patch next to the woods and out of the path
way a
>few big owls and some baby ones landed and came over to us
>
Hello Denise,

 thank you for relateing your dream? experience to me. I've never
dreamed about owls, at least not consciously. I'll have to see if I can
lucid-dream me up an owl.
 bye, barb

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Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:24:19 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: To list
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Hi Barb and All,

> I have not been a member of the list very long, but since I've been a
>part of it, I have received many helpful suggestions. I can't remember
>who said what but your help is appreciated. To other new members here
>are just some of the suggestions that I have found very helpful

I am finally getting caught up in my email this is why my responce to this
message is late. I found your advice to new members to be of great value.
Your right a person can get a great deal of good advice from this list. Much
of it is done in private which can be helpful when your going through rough
times. I have been one of the ones fortunte to get some of this help. I
would tell anyone who is lurking and is troubled by something that they are
going through.....yup this is the list to ask! Any question is acceptable
here! Any thought is listened to and much advice is given. Unfortuntly
late next week I will have to unsubscribe for over a month , perhaps longer.
Fortuntly it is for good reasons. I am in the midst of a move. This move
will be only of a postive nature for me and I believe the beginning of many
good things to come. I am an artist and I have just been accepted to do a
wall mural for a lady. This is very exciting to me. What is even more
exciting is she is full of a great deal of knowledge about the world and she
loves to share this knowledge. I will be like a child with large eyes
listening to all of what I can learn from her. This could not of come at a
better time. If I had to stay where I am right now there would be
explosions so loud that they could be seen and heard throughout most of
Canada! <grin>

In L&L & Understanding,

Kat
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:12:53 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: to list
Message-ID: <360029D5.DACFE691ATnospammhonline.net>

Kat,
    Am thrilled for you! Enjoy the odyssey.
With love and
many blessings,
+ Maureen
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 21:44:30 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
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Hi +Maureen!

> Am thrilled for you! Enjoy the odyssey.
>With love and
>many blessings,
>+ Maureen

You bet I will!!!! been awhile since I have heard from you! <hugs>

In L&L & Understanding,

Kat
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 18:51:01 PDT
From: "Mel August" <bodacia31ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net
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>
>I ask that someone on the list with more knowledge than me would please
>answer Soulo's
>question. There seem to be another crisis here right now. My grandson
>will probably be having his finger amputated in the next few days. I
>can't think of much to say. My thoughts are elsewhere.
> Much love,
>barb
>
>
Barb...
Sending you and your little grandson...energy...light...love...and
positive will.
Take care...we are with you.
Blessed be...
Bodacia

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Date: 17 Sep 98 02:56:56 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: (no subject)
Message-Id: <OUT-36007A74.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

I would like to think that the list isn't so official that I can't
write something a bit emotional. Maybe only it is me that views it
with officialdom but I feel wary.

I don't think I have been having much, if any kundalini activity
recently. I don't know if this is the calm before the storm but maybe
it's just gone away. I'm not even sure I ever had it, whatever it was.
I don't think I'm in any kind of special state at the moment but I
wanted to write something so I hope that's okay.

I have been feeling some adult things recently. I guess that a
person's tastes just change or something. It seems like all my old
habits established over many years are being uprooted. I am even
getting an urge to have an alcoholic drink. I don't think I was ever
really against drinking in an irrational way I just never related it
with how I felt. But the feeling is growing.

I have had some times of great movement just recently. There was a
tremendous movement yesterday, it was extraordinary. But it left me
only in the knowledge that normally I am so fond of being rigid and
static. I don't think I'm a very spiritual person. But one small
delight recently is my self esteem. It seems to be growing, and I keep
remembering a time when I was at work. I thought I was pretending to
put on a show when I blurted to a fellow workmate "yet another thing
I've done wrong again". But maybe really that was the first time I
ever expressed the depth of it. I keep being reminded of that and the
feeling of it being wrong and of wanting something better, wanting to
be kinder to myself, is growing.

But right now I feel an unusually genuine sadness. It doesn't seem to
be a violent sadness but there's a kind of depth to is that I haven't
felt before. I think I've been getting in touch with the child within
and also find myself expanding in the other direction also, which was
not expected. Nor do I think I have really been trying to do any of
this it is just sort of happening. I have been doing some mental
exercises here and there trying to associate myself with my actions to
be responsible for them. It is not generally my way to live like that.
Unfortunately I am usually cut off from being the source of my
movements. I am not sure why but I feel honestly sad at the moment.
Oh well. It makes a change from the borderline aggression I had
earlier today.

I am not sure that I have ever written to anybody on this list, or
indeed anywhere on the internet. It's just not very real the way I
relate to people. It is so twisted with superficiality, which is a
real pity. I don't think I really twig that there are people in the
same boat. I am always feeling so adrift and crying out for some
glimpse of something real and genuine if such a thing exists. I
sometimes feel that I am not entirely human. Not because anyone has
suggested it but I think it's just true. There are people who are much
lighter than I am. I feel so heavy sometimes like, I dunno, like I'm
just really heavy and relying on meaning all the time. Why does
everything have to mean something.

I don't know the purpose of this exercise. I feel even sadder than
when I started. I am almost pleased to be feeling anything genuine at
all. At least maybe I'm human enough for that. I don't know what's
come over me.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk

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