1998/09/15 22:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #658
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 658
Today's Topics: Re: Rejection [ "Wonderer" ]
Light and Vibration [ "Wonderer" ] Pass on telling my story. See anyone [ "Joseph Miller" ]
help [ Maureen Heffernan ] interesting stuff [ "zarcon pitom" ]
RE: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Dig [ "Mark T. Adornetto" ] Re: Light and Vibration [ "Lobster" ]
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:04:37 -0400 From: "Wonderer"
To: Cc: "kundalini-1"
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Hi xxxtg,
I am sorry to see that you are unsubbing. I also am sorry I could not respond sooner to your e-mail. I've had problem the last few
days getting my pc to give me my e-mail.
You were right, I was thinking of myself when I wrote the following:
>In a message dated 9/11/98 10:11:27 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
>mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com writes: >
>< It's not easy for some of us to post anything, because we have to > overcome fear of rejection. When it comes, that rejection is
> magnified in the mind, and confirms our worst fears >
This is not a major problem for me now, but I have dealt with a great
deal of fear of being noticed in the past. I was a terribly shy child, and often would not speak a word unless compelled to do so.
[Hard to imagine now, right? :-)]
You wrote: >
>The key is *unlearning* what we think we know, so that the Truth will set us
>free -- The ol' chipping away method.
I don't think I would have really understood this - even a few days
ago. But, today I do. I am reading A Course In Miracles, and this is a key point made toward the beginning of the book: Perception is
subject to error; Knowledge is absolute. Knowledge comes from Revelation/God and does not involve any form of perception (sight,
sound, etc.) Real Knowledge is absolute.
>What I needed to unlearn was the meaning, the value, I placed on words spoken.
>We have all placed a value on them - they can be kind, they can be mean and
>hurtful -- all these thing we have valued can be harmful indeed!
This was really hard for me to understand. This does tie into the concept from ACIM of Charity. Charity seems to mean loving your
brother (your fellow human) because you see what he one day will be, and not what he is/said/did today. Seeing the perfection in
everyone.
>But words cannot hurt you in Truth. I wish for you to truly see this so that
>you may post and speak without fear, knowing that whatever you say is perfect
>for whatever reason. >
>Ask to unlearn the meaning and value you have placed upon words to see the
>Truth. And trust that whatever occurs to teach you this, that you will learn,
>and you can do it. I didn't think I would ever (!) unlearn this, but I swore
>to mySelf that I never ever wanted words to ever affect me again, to make me
>doubt mySelf, to make me feel afraid, to hurt me, to reject me. I wanted to
>see what was real. >
>Make a decision, and do it if this is something you would love in your life.
> >Much Love,
>xxxtg >
I think you are echoing my recent lesson (something that I learned that I think is part of my dharma): It is not just the words you use
that must be truthful, it is the thoughts behind them. We must try to speak the Truth wholly and Lovingly, and not just marginally.
Recognizing that others may not have gotten there yet, but will do so one day can ease the sting of their biting remarks. Refraining from
classifying the others as good/bad, but remembering to look Charitably upon them, releases one from the fatiguing job of
evaluating everyone/everything, and the emotions that go along with that.
Thank you for trying to help me. I am not afraid to post on the
list, I was just trying to help others feel the pain harsh words, and sometimes even mild criticism can cause.
I hope we see you back on the list soon.
Love & Light
Cathy
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 16:49:19 -0400 From: "Wonderer"
To: "kundalini-1" Subject: Light and Vibration
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Hi K-Listers,
I just want to share some incredible stuff:
I've been reading A Course In Miracles(ACIM). The book is clearly not for everyone. For me, it is very hard to comprehend. But, I have
been trying and a few nights ago, as I was going to sleep, I was mentally turning over some of the ACIM concepts. I was interrupted by a light that
went on in my room. I looked about, and it waned. Again, I went back to my thoughts, and the light came on. This time, I realized it was coming
from inside my head. The light seems to be associated with Truth concepts.
The next night, I prayed before I went to sleep. I did as ACIM
suggested I turned over the guidance of my thoughts to Christ, and my mind to God. When I was sleeping (not dreaming) I "heard" a voice say
"We must turn her wheels to the right". Suddenly there was a gush of brilliant light in my head, and intense vibration/energy surging through
my physical body. I was blinded by the light, and paralyzed by the vibration, and just when I thought the frequency was more than I could continue
to bear, it stopped. Of course, I was wide awake now. The inside of my head still glowed like the embers from a fire that had just been put
out. My body still felt the vibration, but it was now at a much lower level.
In meditation this morning, I realized that chakras are sometimes called
wheels, and they are also energy vortexes/spirals. My guess is that my wheels were turned "to the right" and the unblocking of my
"Chi"/Energy/Life Force gushed through me and increased my vibratory rate.
This strength of the vibration/energy reminded me of the "Love"
energy from the Astral realm I inhabited before this incarnation. However, the Love energy was clearly "Love", and this energy was not as high a
frequency. This energy was White Light; and the Love energy is like the Light going through a prism. I think my physical body is not ready for the
higher energy, and this was definitely the most I could take.
Wow.
Cathy
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From: "Joseph Miller" To: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
Cc: travelinmanATnospamearthlink.net, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com Subject: Pass on telling my story. See anyone at KRN??
Message-ID:
>i am writing a book on Kundalini as i am experiencing the
>Awakening, i had read other books and had not understood anything I >was reading, ...i kept on having a very strong desire to let people
>know in SIMPLE terms and personal experiences what Kundalini is all >about..
> >...I must hurry and get the book out...
>
Gis,
If you're in a hurry to get the book out I'd best pass. As I've said earlier I've got a backlog to work off and I estimate it'll take me a
year to get things in my life where they should be. I'll take time for some things that aren't on my critical path but that are helpful to me,
like this list, but I am in no position to make any commitments to any projects for anyone else.
Also I've already done my story once, not here but at the KRN (Kundalini
Research Network) conference in Philadelphia in 1995 (I think it was '95, it was the only one in Philadelphia). I don't think the tape of
that presentation is the biggest seller in their library, and I even put the word "sex" is in the title.
Speaking of KRN...if anyone is going to KRN next month in Atlanta I'd
love to meet you and put a face with your name and e-mail address. Some friends of mine are speaking and I'm going down for Friday to lend moral
support and make funny faces from the back of the room. The price for the conference weekend and the hotel is a lot higher than in the past
and to be honest I haven't spent a weekend in a major city in a few years and there are a couple of book stores and two grocery stores in
Atlanta that will get my Saturday. (Anyone able to suggest a good restaurant in Atlanta for a vegan meal?)
If anyone is going for the entire KRN weekend, including the Thursday
pre-conference, I'd suggest catching Joan Harrigan's presentation on Thursday. She's the most knowledgable westerner on Kundalini I know of,
besides being and old friend.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:13:28 +0000 From: Maureen Heffernan
To: Kundalini Subject: Light and Vibration
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Cathy, I am rejoicing for you !!!
MORE Light to you ! + Maureen
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 19:39:41 -0700 From: "RevDL.K.RM"
To: "Wonderer" , "kundalini-1" Subject: Re: Need help from expierienced K people on this too!!!!
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Hi , K people,
I'm in need of your idea's here, So if your not interested in figuring out whats
going on with my head, please delete now!! As I have stated before my K opened up 8
months ago in a miricle healing, 3 months after that I was bending over
picking up somthing off the floor and when I stood up my First Panic attack hit me,I went to the ER thinking I was having as Heart attack, this was
in may,from time to time I get migranes with aura a white and black flashing comes into my vision keep flashing and getting bigger until I can't
see, lately like today I bent over to pick up somthing and when I stood up there was this massive white light over my vision more like a strip of
vision of brightness. when I closed my eyes it was the brightest whitest light I have ever seen,when opening my eyes it was more broken up and scatterd across my
vision,again I closed my eyes and the opening looked like a giant shape of an eye,then I heard that my third eye was starting to clear and open,Whats your
views on this occurance?Does this sound like the opening of third eye or not??Or do think i'm going blind??????HA HA
Always grateful for all your help ,,,RevDenise L&L
-----Original Message-----From:
Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>Date:
Tuesday, September 15, 1998 1:50 PMSubject: Light and Vibration
Hi K-Listers,
I just want to share some incredible stuff:
I've been reading A Course In Miracles(ACIM). The book is clearly
not for everyone. For me, it is very hard to comprehend. But, I have been trying and a few nights ago, as I was going to sleep, I was
mentally turning over some of the ACIM concepts. I was interrupted by a light that went on in my room. I looked about, and it waned.
Again, I went back to my thoughts, and the light came on. This time, I realized it was coming from inside my head. The light seems to be
associated with Truth concepts.
The next night, I prayed before I went to sleep. I did as ACIM suggested I turned over the guidance of my thoughts to Christ, and my mind
to God. When I was sleeping (not dreaming) I "heard" a voice say "We must turn her wheels to the right". Suddenly there
was a gush of brilliant light in my head, and intense vibration/energy surging through my physical body. I was blinded by the light, and
paralyzed by the vibration, and just when I thought the frequency was more than I could continue to bear, it stopped. Of course, I was wide awake
now. The inside of my head still glowed like the embers from a fire that had just been put out. My body still felt the vibration, but it
was now at a much lower level.
In meditation this morning, I realized that chakras are sometimes called wheels, and they are also energy vortexes/spirals. My guess is
that my wheels were turned "to the right" and the unblocking of my "Chi"/Energy/Life Force gushed through me and increased my
vibratory rate.
This strength of the vibration/energy reminded me of the "Love" energy from the Astral realm I inhabited before this
incarnation. However, the Love energy was clearly "Love", and this energy was not as high a frequency. This energy was White
Light; and the Love energy is like the Light going through a prism. I think my physical body is not ready for the higher energy, and this was
definitely the most I could take.
Wow.
Cathy
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From: Maureen Heffernan To: Kundalini
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Hi Rev.
Interesting. I had to have my eyes checked for seeing electric bright colors. Friends said to get checked for glaucoma. I did and all is fine.
When in doubt always get checked. I have found with the panic attacks that it is a reception to too much
energy, prana. I stay calm and it passes. The bending over and standing up suggests pressure to me. Just extra pressure in the veins pressing on
the optic nerves but hopefully I'm totally wrong and your 3rd eye is opening ! Wonderful.
Sending you reiki, blessings and more Bright White Light.
The other Rev. Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 20:01:18 -0700
From: Tony To: "kundalini-1"
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Dear Love
I AM a teacher of A Course in Miracles I will guide you as u wish
Peace
In Devotion to Love I AM
Jo Ann/Ananda ICQ#15294231
home page:
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Academy/2610/ Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 18:25:35 PDT
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http://www.workshops4u.com/
i was i am i will be
zarcon i am of the ages
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 21:58:13 -0700 From: "RevDL.K.RM"
To: , "Kundalini" Subject: Re: help
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Thans Rev,same back at you!!!TheRev
-----Original Message----- From: Maureen Heffernan
To: Kundalini Date: Tuesday, September 15, 1998 4:47 PM
Subject: help
>Hi Rev.
>Interesting. I had to have my eyes checked for seeing electric bright >colors. Friends said to get checked for glaucoma. I did and all is fine.
>When in doubt always get checked. >I have found with the panic attacks that it is a reception to too much
>energy, prana. I stay calm and it passes. The bending over and standing >up suggests pressure to me. Just extra pressure in the veins pressing on
>the optic nerves but hopefully I'm totally wrong and your 3rd eye is >opening ! Wonderful.
>Sending you reiki, blessings and >more Bright White Light.
>The other Rev. >
> Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1998 19:47:25 -0700
From: "Mark T. Adornetto" To:
Cc: "Kundalini" Subject: RE: Paul's post to kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #656
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Gis:
Before you write you may wish to check out current books like;
"Kundalini, psychosis or transcendence" by Lee Sanella "Kundalini" Gopi Krishna
Mark
Hi all
Hey Joe, i am writing a book on Kundalini as i am experiencing the
Awakening, i had read other books and had not understood anything I was reading, I became scared and thought i was possesed!!! I did not start out
wanting to write a book, but as my Kundalini kept rising i kept on having a very strong desire to let people know in SIMPLE terms and personal
experiences what Kundalini is all about..
I have asked other K members to share, so if you would like to share as
well be my guest... Kundalini is not something one should be afraid of...and we
have to share our feelings to let others know they are not alone ....the world
is having a tremendous awakening right now....I must hurry and get the book out...
Love you all.Gis
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:44:05 +0100 From: "Lobster"
To: "Kundalini - L" Subject: Re: interesting stuff
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>i was i am i will be
> >zarcon
>i am of the ages
It was not me that did It
Nor Will It Be
Well Ageless Lobster
(nonesense spouted on request - but not from thee)
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 04:44:39 +0100 From: "Lobster"
To: "Kundalini - L" Subject: Re: Light and Vibration
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>Dear Love
> >I AM a teacher of A Course in Miracles
>I will guide you as u wish >
>Peace
Dear Guide,
I am a miracle and of course
wish or not teach or guide
No one.
Be Well
Lobster Love
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