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1998/09/14 16:06
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #656


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 656
Today's Topics: Re: Where to from here? [ David Bozzi ]
  mailing list [ Maureen Heffernan ] Aloha! [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
  sunny skies,... [ Amanda Smith ] AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Paul ]
  pics [ "Sharon Webb" ] newbie [ Maureen Heffernan ]
  'loha [ flute ] Re: Lobby [ "Lobster" ]
  Re: sunny skies,... [ "Kat" ] Re:pics [ Barbara Alexander ]
  RE: (no subject) [ DruoutATnospamaol.com ] Re: Gently does it... [ "guy johnson"
To: ckoATnospamjuno.com, Kundalini Subject: Re: Where to from here?
Message-ID:
ckoATnospamjuno.com wrote:
> Still, I feel something is missing.
Listen to the gap.Are you afraid of it?
Dive in.
> I listen hard for an inner voice. I listen hard for goddess to talk to > me. I listen for
> my guardian angel to speak. Am I trying too hard?
 Can you listen to Listening?
> I don't hear anything. Silence.
There's dead silence and there's Living silence.
> I need to know what to do next to get off this > plateau I feel I've landed on.
Is this plateau something like a wall?Does it have a door?
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:11:42 +0000 From: Maureen Heffernan
To: Kundalini Subject: mailing list
Message-ID:
Hi again, I see where one can start for free a mailing list
 or start a new e-group at http://www.eGroups.com -- Free Web-based e-mail groups."
After the kennel is done at 6:30 a.m. I get right on with the kundalini and astara groups.
Where's ours??? Why don't the clergy of the Free Church of Antioch do it. We really must connect up with the certain tone and vibration that
called us to this particular Church and start magnifying it, yes??? The astara group puts on requests for light and prayers and thank yous when
things happen. The K group discusses all kinds of happenings and I am documenting whats happening with me. . . which is=
someone will write about a growth on a lip to be removed and ask for light,(prayers) or send reiki. If I am moved I will send reiki to this
unknown individual and while typing the letter I am directed to ask about the ankles. Makes no sense but I don't question. I do it. I then
recieve a message back,,"Wow, how did you know about the arthritis in both my ankles?" Other things have happened. I'm printing out +
documenting it all. It's a wonderful experience to be in the Spirit and with all the speeding up going on we have to get out of snail mail and
get "with it". Do you agree? This really is a must.
And I MUST run. In His Light.
+ Maureen Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:16:01 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan To: Kundalini
Subject: getting with IT Message-ID:
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Me again !
   I sent out just a simple blessing, May the Lord's Peace,Joy, Love and Power be with you.
Amen Amen Amen
I blessed the screen when sending.

I got responses back= thank you so much. "Could feel it". "It was wonderful" etc. etc.
I'll head the group or monitor or do whatever it takes but this is a
tool for Spirit. In His Light and Service,
+ M Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:03:19 -0700
From: Eileen Joy To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com"
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hi, Im Eileen
Im still trying to understand what you all are talking about..so far it seems your talkin of energy..awakening..of
knowledge..understanding..love...growth..breath...life.. and learning to cope as a spiritual being in a physical body..
about me...Im Eileen...43...single mother of 3 and two grandlings
divorced a year ago..learning im a strong person and learning there is nothing I need to be afraid of..workin hard on that one..doin well..
I too have a teenager that has had her probs with energy
transference..she sucks it all in no matter what kind it is.. I have made her aware of this..
well...just wanted you all to know Im lurkin a little still..reading and
learning from you all..and I wanted to introduce myself..seemed a tad wrong saying nothing ..
hugs with much light and love,
eileen Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 23:41:48 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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Hi My Angel Friends....
I'm going to be signing off for a while now to tend to things that have been
ignored for quite some time. But know I'll be unsubbing while screaming ''but I don't wanna!"
You've all been my life-line for a couple of years now. You healed parts of
me that I never thought would be healed, and I'll always be greatful to everyone here for that, but most especially for the beautiful friendships I've
made.
You have my email (imtgxxxATnospamaol.com) - put it in your address book and drop me a line every so often. I'll be back I'm sure - I just don't know when.
(probably tomorrow if I'm as hooked on Klist as I think I am!)
Now how do you unsubscribe? LOL (just kidding Angelique)
Now party down people!
Much Love & Appreciation, xxxtg
* I've learned that the clothes I like best
are the ones with the most holes in them *
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 21:20:28 -0700 From: Amanda Smith
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" Subject: sunny skies,...
Message-ID:
Hello everyone, this morning I asked for help with my 9 yr old daughter. The response was beautiful,... Thank you all for the input,
we took the first step today and she responded well her day was tear free and priceless. I hope for many to come and with the support of
friends like you maybe I can help her through it. To those of you with out kids I apologize for taking up your time but with a subject this
important to me, I had to pay thanks for the guidance and love sent to us. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart to my lips that send you
all a Soul Kiss. Bless you, Amanda Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 19:29:35 -1000 (HST)
From: Paul To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center Message-Id:
This is my first time coming across this site. At the time I am really seeking to connect with others experiencing the Kundalini Process.
For me it started apprx. 14 years ago and was a spontaneously awakening. At the beginning I had no conscious knowledge. At first I begin experiencing different types of psyhic manifestations. My sensitivity heightened, time appeared to speed, up, I began to experience extreme emotions lasting till the present, I began channeling entities, I connected with my so called higher self, I began what I call realizations, etc.
I began experienceing physical manifestations in my body. Initially I lost about 20lbs. At times I was in tears and other times I was in higher consciousness feeling ecstasies of awareness.
In short it has made my life extremely confusing and difficult. I do not have anyone whom I able to share this with in my life. Members of my family and exwife could not, would not try to understand. I
I would be happy to share my experiences with anyone that is sincerely interested.
I have found some books to be helpful and others to be misleading and written by authors whom do not really understand the process, but approach it in a superficial manner.
Good Luck
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 03:40:34 -0400 From: "Sharon Webb"
To: Subject: pics
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Hi,
I've added two new galleries (Fractalscapes 2 and 3) on my web site, URL
below, if anyone would like to drop by. About half have k-related themes.
Sharon shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Sixteen new Fractalscapes were added to this page on Sept. 13, 1998
Fractals and 2D and 3D graphics
http://www.fractalus.com/sharon/
Winner of twenty top web awards. Free screensaver and wallpaper d/l.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:25:38 +0000 From: Maureen Heffernan
To: Kundalini Subject: newbie
Message-ID:
Eileen, Hi! > and learning to cope as a spiritual being in a physical body..
> That's summing it up nicely.
Welcome. + Maureen
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 01:07:46 -1000 (HST) From: "L. J. Dartan"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id:
greetings all. new here. i am 21 years old and have had an interest in occult/new age subjects for as long as i can remember. when i was no older than 15 i had an unexpected experience with what i believe is kundalini. at the time i meditated daily and was interested in everything from auras to obes to telepethy. but had never heard of kundalini. i was meditating on nothing in particular when i felt a strange sensation that i can only describe as "electric" starting at the root chakra and moving upward. not knowing anything about it i practiced it often till i could bring up the energy without even entering a meditative state. for many reasons i had stopped doing it, then years later came upon a book on kundalini. in the past year or so, i began using it again in meditations and have found the skill easy to reaquire. i was wondering if there are any dangers i should know about? the only bad side effect i have encountered is a headache or two, when i tried to push too far.
ill cut off here. already made this longer than i meant to.
thank you for your time, LJD
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 07:54:07 -0500 From: flute
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" Subject: 'loha
Message-ID:
BARB!!! 'loha.. cool Where you stay? In DaKine? Good ting Hawaii no ka oi...
LOL. only someone from Hawaii would say 'loha.. in stead of AAaaaaaLlllloooha. Giggling Tita Sistah, Flute
-- flute
http://www.create.org/healingarts "The same stream of life that runs through my veins night and day runs
through the world and dances in rhythmic measures." R. Tagore Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 06:51:12 +0100
From: "Lobster" To: "Kundalini - L"
Subject: Re: Lobby Message-ID:
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>to be offensive at me. There's nothing wrong with me at all.
My apologies for being offensive. It creates brevity in you.
Nothing wrong? Something wrong with that view . . .

>> You don't know what you are saying. >> Really.
> >That's a good thing.

Something wrong with that view . . .
Be Well
Lobster (All is well with the World - change nothing. Right? Surely . . .)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:11:49 -0400 From: "Kat"
To: "Amanda Smith" , Subject: Re: sunny skies,...
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 To those of you with
>out kids I apologize for taking up your time but with a subject this >important to me, I had to pay thanks for the guidance and love sent to
>us. Thank you all from the bottom of my heart to my lips that send you >all a Soul Kiss.
Amanda,
There is always time for paying thanks and if there is anyone that does not
understand this they will have a very important lesson to learn. I think you will find even those without kids will have understanding. You know its
interesting, Recently I have meet a few that have not had kids for one reason or another and they have more compassion for children then some of
the people that I know that do have kids! I am glad that things are working out for you and your daughter
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 10:46:19 -0400 From: Barbara Alexander
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" Subject: Re:pics
Message-ID:
Wow! I did drop by and what a wonderful experience I had there. Thanks for sharing.
 barb Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 08:18:16 -0700
From: "Liz Linton" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: help with moving energy Message-ID:
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I've been experimenting with ways to move energy in the body -- sexual energy and anger are the 2 I'm working with right now. I'd love it if people from the list would try either one or both of these experiments and share what you experience with me on private email.
The experiments are similar. The first one is a way to move sexual energy out of the 2nd chakra when it is not wanted there. If this works easily or well for others it would be a good skill for people to have when they are sexually aroused in a socially inappropriate situation (being attracted to a friend's spouse comes to mind.)
Imagine that there is a big cable connecting your 2nd chakra to your forehead. Imagine the the sexual energy traveling up this cable and into the forehead, through the brain and down the spine. Circulate it through the 2nd chakra and back up the cable until the there is no longer a press of energy in the 2nd chakra. How many circulations does it take for you to notice the energy leveling and what else do you notice.
Please also try a similar experiment with anger or just irritation. Cycle the energy forward from the amygdala to the forehead and down the cable into the second chakra, back, up the tailbone and up the spine and through the brain. How many cycles does it take to calm down? What breathing exercises are effective with this?
For anyone who trys this, thank you! I am very interested in knowing your results!!!
--signalfire
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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 11:43:22 -0400 From: Barbara Alexander
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" Subject: (no subject)
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"What "Should" Have happened Did"     The 12 Best Kept Secrets for Living an Emotionally
Healthy Life   Dr. Chris Thurman   This is one of the truest statements that I've ever come across. 
The problem is that we don't like it when it happens.  We can observe what is happening, learn from it alter it but the end result is still the
same.   If I am say,  acting in a hostile manner and I am dealing
with a hostile person and an argument ensues.  What should have happened did.
  If I am not behaving in a hostile manner but I am dealing with a hostile person and they vent their hostility all over the place. 
What should have happened did.   If I step off the curb into oncoming traffic and get hit by
a car.  It may be very awful but still,   given all the individual circumstances going on at any specific moment, what should have
happened did.  We may not think that its  fair. We may feel angry that it happened but what should have happened did.
  The only way to alter the outcome it to change on of the factors involved before the actual event occurs.
  The only exception that I can see to this is in the case of miracles, but then if the collective energy of love and caring is involved.......perhaps
what should have happened did.  Just a thought, for what its worth.  Babble..babble bbbable...
   barb  
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:02:58 PDT From: "Pure Heart"
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, signalfireATnospamgurlmail.com Subject: Re: help with moving energy
Message-ID: I can't speak for others, but I can say my own experience:
I tried for over 20 years to redirect my sexual energy to a 'higher'
center.
Without realizing it, Kundalini was active in me in a partial way, and this fueled my sex drive tremendously.
Its hard to be spiritual when you are horny all the time -)
But since i had a major Kundalini awakening, my sex drive has been
very nearly zero for some time.
As far as I know, ONLY a major Kundalini awakening can redirect this flow in a healthy way.
My 2 cents.
-Kevin

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Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 09:38:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Rik Wallace
To: Lobster , Kundalini - L
Subject: Gnu'er Guru Message-ID:
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Lobster writes:
> Dear Rik and Kundalites, > I am illustrating behaviour by attributing it to myself.
 :((
I can relate. I too share this demonstrative tendency --
to be who I am -going off on...tangents, that illuminate "The TRUTH As I Have Seen It" (in the mirror)... allowing
me to 'Reveal To All! the Essence Of' ~my own delusions~ about the _Fundamental _Nature and _Reality _Of [my own cluelessness,
vainly "explaining" :D the Divine Absurdity of \my own inclinations\to Seek and Discover new Knowledge of
The Universe...which is filled with such *wonderful* insights I want to share about what I am
 about the reality of [anything whatsoever]that !Inspires 'Expressing my Grand Vision of
(fantasyland)which _The Buddha_ indeed proclaimed is the Hidden Essence of and the notion that I've finally
found the answer to the 'Meaning of ...' NOTHING.. which we Kundalites are o'course wise enough 2 find in the $Heart$ of
$nothing$... which is really all I can rightfully say on the specific matter of -- anything at all...so I SUPPOSE you
might as well just go go on reading... because you like me obviously have nothing better to -- think!... as *you* could
now be writing some pointless but interestingly creative life like this, instead of 'taking it from /Your own lack of
motivation, to just my post because it satisfies some sick need to be entertained by someone as !Brilliantly
Comical! , and expose your Fine sense of humor who thru its Keen Insight has noticed
in my words perhaps a grain of --> rampant manipulation?... which I should not gloat about, since many people find
such tactics -- very enjoyable, obviously... because they 'keep reading' even though I tell them "there is nothing of
value to be found outside the Self" and "you should look within"-->your refrigerator, because you must be hungry by
now having !wasted so much time(!) reading anyone other than 'Me'... since I AM the Voice In Your Conscience, You
One True Guru who transforms by grace of ~my great spiritual powers~ granted by None Other Than: *!! YER IMAGINATION!!!*
Now, please go away. I am hungry.
"I will be more interestingly when I am less laughably" -me

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . :(: love_rikATnospamyahoo.com
--------------------------------------------------------- Note: This excessively eloquent diatribe is simply a
confession of my own bleak outlook. I cannot ascribe such laughable attributes to Lobster or anyone other
than "You One True Guru", because I have never met you. Congratulations if you are not still reading this.
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From: DruoutATnospamaol.com To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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< In a message dated 98-09-14 11:48:10 EDT, you write:
 < "What "Should" Have happened Did" >>
 Dear Barb,
 A couple days ago, sitting by a small lake near my home, I "felt" the idea "Everything is as is should be. And always has been"
   Similar, I think
   Love, Hillary
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To: nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net Subject: Re: (no subject)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 14:22:35 EDT
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In a message dated 98-09-14 11:48:10 EDT, you write:
< "What "Should" Have happened Did" >>
Dear Barb,
A couple days ago, sitting by a small lake near my home, I "felt" the idea
"Everything is as is should be. And always has been"
Similar, I think
Love, Hillary Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1998 16:06:21 PDT
From: "guy johnson" To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Gently does it... Message-ID:
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dear lobster: actually, my random house dictionary states: eloquent:having, exercising, or characterized by fluent forceful speech.
This is a definition for us all to ponder. with love and the very brightest, positive light, katrina
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>>lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com writes: >>
>>< However the less I say >> the more eloquent I become
>> >>But then that would be for one who wants to become more
>eloquent.... >> Is that a requirement on this spiritual (ahem!) path?
> >
>Eloquence is the Truth spoken perfectly simply. >
>Be Well >Perfectly Simple Lobster
> >
> >

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