1998/09/12 01:31
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #651
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 651
Today's Topics:
Re: Views on Aura (Part IV) [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ]
Re: two copies [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
Losing me [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
Re: Excessive body heat prob [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: Views on Aura (Part IV) [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Re: Losing me [ "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.c ]
Letting it out [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
I don't know how to share this. [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Re: I don't know how to share this. [ "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net> ]
Your diagnosis/pinched nerves [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Re: Excessive body heat prob [ "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotma ]
anger [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
Babble [ Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetr ]
Re: anger [ Amanda Smith <mswingsATnospammaxinet.com> ]
Special K [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ]
message to Angelique [ "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:12:41 +0200
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>
To: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Views on Aura (Part IV)
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At 13:33 1998.09.11 PDT, guy johnson wrote:
>Dear danijel: I ponder at the taste of disgust i pick up from your words
>and descriptions of "fucked up ness". That place provided the fodder
>for my growth, and you may come to love it also, rather than judge it as
>a thing which needs fixing. I was marvelling today at the relief I feel
>for having recently accepted that all my pieces and parts are of
>enormous value to the realized, whole of me which I sometimes allow
>myself to be. And from that acceptance grows an integration of my
>parts, such that i cannot help but love my struggling places. they are
>so perfectly an expression of how brave I am to be here and face myself,
>just looking and being, in love. for as I treat myself, so am I able to
>treat others. with love to you, katrina
>
>Danijel wrote:
>That fucked up ego has to be fixed and the
>>fucked-up-ness is to be replaced with Divine qualities
OK, so basically you are saying that if someone rapes and kills a child,
that person is perfect and exactly as he should be? :) Come on, give me a
break. I'm talking about that sort of stuff, and you are talking about
something completely different. By my definition, if you have a desire to
kill someone and drink his blood, you have a problem. :)))
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 14:26:28 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: guardianATnospamihug.co.nz
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: two copies
Message-ID: <19980911212628.13706.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>I am getting two copies of the emails from the list, anyone know what
could
>be causing it please?
Doesn't happen all the time. . . people hit 'reply', then cc: to the
list. . . that's why some get duplicates.
I ask in advance for forgiveness for "demonstrating" this as I write - I
don't want to get flamed right now. But of course, my pet Puff the
Magic Dragon will back me up just in case flamethrowers are around. ;-)
- Hudson
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Webmaster (n.): A spider who has achieved
enlightenment on its home turf.
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 17:28:25 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Losing me
Message-ID: <35F9B219.A4CB5894ATnospamwtp.net>
I'm having a strange time coping with "letting it go." I've been
seperated for two years now and next week I finally have a court date
for my divorce. I'm very glad to be getting this over. In the past
month, I have removed myself from becoming entangled in the messiness of
it. My ex tries to engage me and I just move aside.
Today I heard that ex is arguing over some computer equipment. He thinks
I should sell equipment and is very emotional over this. I am not
willing to do that. No big thing. It's just not something I'm going to
do. So I observed with some amusement he and his attorney bickering to
my attorney over this.
This unattachment is supposed to be a good thing. And it IS better to
watch the crazy behavior instead of participating in it. But here's the
thing, as I've let go of trying to handle all the details myself, I have
started feeling like I'm losing myself. I just don't know how to be
without being me. I feel disoriented and mournful. It's like I'm
dying--again.
Where do I go from here? How am I me if I'm not handling my life? Does
anyone know what I'm talking about?
Nancy
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:31:16 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Excessive body heat prob
Message-ID: <19980911233116.26159.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Danijel wrote:
>I'm sorry if it sounds pretty disorganized, I'm still trying to make a
>clear system, but not there yet... :)
katrina & guy ask:
why not simply surrender to the clear system which already exists?
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:40:14 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Views on Aura (Part IV)
Message-ID: <19980911234014.8301.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>OK, so basically you are saying that if someone rapes and kills a
child,
>that person is perfect and exactly as he should be? :) Come on, give me
a
>break. I'm talking about that sort of stuff, and you are talking about
>something completely different. By my definition, if you have a desire
to
>kill someone and drink his blood, you have a problem. :)))
danijel: yes, as I have come to accept that the sexual abuse from my
father was critical, and a thing I accepted at birth, (knowing then that
I needed to experience that absolute dismissal of my power and right to
even exist), by seeking to know the circumstances that would allow him
to get to that depraved place (meditation and focus on the history he
never disclosed about his own childhood helped here, alot), yes. I'd
have to say that our interactions with others are always in part about
ourselves. We all have a great deal of karma to address, and we are
being challenged early on to get the hang of dropping our fucked up
family legacies so that we may grow beyond. This is merely our
understanding, and we respect yours. To each his own on this path which
challenges us to question all we "know."
much love and great light to you, katrina
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 16:50:55 PDT
From: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Losing me
Message-ID: <19980911235055.23083.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Nancy wrote:
But here's the
>thing, as I've let go of trying to handle all the details myself, I
have
>started feeling like I'm losing myself. I just don't know how to be
>without being me. I feel disoriented and mournful. It's like I'm
>dying--again.
>
>Where do I go from here? How am I me if I'm not handling my life? Does
>anyone know what I'm talking about?
Your small understanding of who you are is expanding, and there is
always a sense of loss of that which kept us safe in the big world, that
which kept us aligned with our families and friends. And there can be
sadness as your ability to interact may shift (this was where I felt
such a consummate chamelion that I could no longer find me in the
midst... it's growth, it's good, be patient (someone ssaid that today
already). You will be protected in the physical world as you commit to
grow, and all that passes before you from your new perspective will have
a deeper, if less personal meaning. It may be awkward now, but you will
come to love the lack of drama. this is at least what I have
experienced. Anyway, don't worry, you'll get dragged back down into the
old pattern again if you are still attached, and it will remind you that
not knowing is sometimes way preferrable to that which is so familiar
and predictable. in love and great respect for your fine questions,
katrina &guy
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Date: 12 Sep 98 01:31:06 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Letting it out
Message-Id: <OUT-35F9CEDA.MD-1.0.paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Hi.
In a dream this morning, which I had almost completely forgotten
about, I was totally liberated in crying. Throughout the whole dream I
was in a state of aching in my heart and I had absolutely no time for
appearances. I didn't care what it looked like, I just let it all
flood right out, and a flood indeed it was. At times I experienced
that there was like water flowing through me and out through my eyes,
and I screamed very high and loud and somehow the scream continued
even though I was able to breathe in and out. And despite the totally
unbridled crying there was this enormous depth of love happening.
Funny though, because this had absolutely no aftereffects.
--
Paul.
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:10:10 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: I don't know how to share this.
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Hi All,
I am in such deep pain at the moment and I am so angry. I really don't know
how to express this or even how to hold it in. As you saw last weekend I
could stay angry for a little while but just as it got to a boil all the
fuzz went out of it and my wall of protection went back up. I had a trained
therpist once tell me she could see the change coming over me. My
expression completely changes and I am in charge again but with no feeling.
She told me that she had never meet anyone as strong as me. I am soooo
tired of being right about what other people are feeling. I often wish I
could turn off this ability but then I go and do something that makes this
ability even stronger? Am I nuts or what? My brother told me tonight that
he was aware of the negetive feelings that he has been sending my way. Two
other men in my life have been aware of how much they were hurting me but
did this stop them? ......no. Could I stop them?......no. Did I stand
there and take it? No!!! So what is the lesson that I am not seeing in
this? What is the Kundalini trying to tell me now? Why is my pain
exploding? How can you release what you do not understand? I don't
understand how anyone can purposely hurt another soul? If I even for a
second become aware that I am hurting someone I feel a deep pain deep inside
of me that I have to correct that I must admmend for. Is this not what
every one feels? If I am meant to detach from my feelings then why am I
given the gift to know other peoples feelings? Why do I feel their anger?
Their upsets, their guilts? Why are these people able to open up to me
completely in a way that they cannot with anyone else? How can they trust
me to that degree? when in fact in many case's they cannot be trusted?
Well the damn wall just went back up again......so much for this
message.....did notice however that my body temperature went pretty high
while posting this. I even got a heat rash now! Yea know its funny but it
just occurred to me that the conversation with my brother tonight was
probably the first time he has been able to open up to anyone in a long
time. I suppose in that respect it was worth anything that I had to go
through. I am now detached.
In L&L & Understanding,
Kat
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1998 21:46:22 -0700
From: "RevDL.K.RM" <htminATnospamptdprolog.net>
To: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: I don't know how to share this.
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Hello,K listers,
Forgive me if I sound uneducated about the K, but thats how it is for me,
I've only been here 4 weeks,Am I correct in assuming that the K is causing
the rage and anger within to surface?
more for us than others?I personally have been awake only 8 months now and I
've just come to relize that, I have had so much anger boiling in me
at times that just didn't seem like the old me.
It scares me somtimes,being a mother my children push me to the point of
thinking about walking out on them, I know I won't, but to sit and day
dream about how wonderful it would be for a day of peace around the house,
I know I could never leave them,
My mother left our family early in the game and dad raised us,these
thoughts that arise I don't understand them.I don't know much about children
having the K this early in life but my children are all healers and have
reiki,This happened before
I fully understood what happens when we are open ,I thought they were full
of demons when they would awaken late at night shaking and all white, and
not really being awake, now I know its the K,
If this anger has surfaced due to the K does anyone know how long the
process lasts? And does anyone else deal
with kids on K?????? I'm in the Dark,Denise
-----Original Message-----
From: Kat <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Date: Friday, September 11, 1998 6:14 PM
Subject: I don't know how to share this.
>Hi All,
>
>I am in such deep pain at the moment and I am so angry. I really don't
know
>how to express this or even how to hold it in. As you saw last weekend I
>could stay angry for a little while but just as it got to a boil all the
>fuzz went out of it and my wall of protection went back up. I had a
trained
>therpist once tell me she could see the change coming over me. My
>expression completely changes and I am in charge again but with no feeling.
>She told me that she had never meet anyone as strong as me. I am soooo
>tired of being right about what other people are feeling. I often wish I
>could turn off this ability but then I go and do something that makes this
>ability even stronger? Am I nuts or what? My brother told me tonight
that
>he was aware of the negetive feelings that he has been sending my way. Two
>other men in my life have been aware of how much they were hurting me but
>did this stop them? ......no. Could I stop them?......no. Did I stand
>there and take it? No!!! So what is the lesson that I am not seeing in
>this? What is the Kundalini trying to tell me now? Why is my pain
>exploding? How can you release what you do not understand? I don't
>understand how anyone can purposely hurt another soul? If I even for a
>second become aware that I am hurting someone I feel a deep pain deep
inside
>of me that I have to correct that I must admmend for. Is this not what
>every one feels? If I am meant to detach from my feelings then why am I
>given the gift to know other peoples feelings? Why do I feel their anger?
>Their upsets, their guilts? Why are these people able to open up to me
>completely in a way that they cannot with anyone else? How can they trust
>me to that degree? when in fact in many case's they cannot be trusted?
>Well the damn wall just went back up again......so much for this
>message.....did notice however that my body temperature went pretty high
>while posting this. I even got a heat rash now! Yea know its funny but
it
>just occurred to me that the conversation with my brother tonight was
>probably the first time he has been able to open up to anyone in a long
>time. I suppose in that respect it was worth anything that I had to go
>through. I am now detached.
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Kat
>
>
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:09:04 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Your diagnosis/pinched nerves
Message-ID: <19980912020904.10402.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Hi Maureen,
Apparently you see pretty clearly, thank you. The lower three
cervical vertabrae showed signs of degeneration in 1975 which seems to
contribute to a tense jaw condition. As for thorasic area, I have a lung
problem caused by inhaleing mmassive amounts of fungus from
steaming-composting pine tree wood chips,and reoccuring bronchitus.
Love, barb
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 19:21:03 PDT
From: "Evelyn Niedbalec" <log_me_inATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Excessive body heat prob
Message-ID: <19980912022104.9114.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>>So how exactly does one "purify the resources of the chakras?"
>>-E
>
>Hm. There are two ways, one is to do it energetically, and the other is
to
>erradicate the flaws in your personality and replace them with
perfections,
>and it is done by merciless self-analisys.
OK, I understand this way pretty well. But finding flaws is not as easy
as replacing them with perfection. I tell the perfection to go there
but it doesn't always wanna stick! ;-)
The energetic way is to
>gradually increase the energy going through the chakra and follow the
>energy movement through you into deeper aspects
So then how does go about controlling the amount of energy going through
the chakra? This whole thing is happening by itself. I am not
meditating or anything to force it (I was going to start meditating, but
I have strange desire not to right now, so I decided to take heed). You
are saying that if the energy increases too rapidly, the result is
getting hot? And what also kinda confuses me (not that anything is
really to surprising anymore) is that my actual physical temp is reading
a few degrees cooler than average, so why am I sweating and thinking I
am hot when I'm not! I figured as long as the heat thing is not
becoming dangerous, it wasn't to be worried about too much.
-E
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:30:04 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: anger
Message-ID: <35F9EABB.AC1DE582ATnospamnetrax.net>
I'm not sure how much this has to do with k but anger frequently
occurs when either our wants or our needs are not being fulfilled. Even
the very youngest babies have this response and this is not meant to
imply anything other than the fact that it is a very basic human
response. It has to do with threats to our security in the case of need
and threats to our self worth in case of wants. We learn at very early
age that we can not have everything we want the minute we want it.
Needs are different story.
Denise: Having children is hard to deal with when we are trying to
work through our own problems. Time to think and rest is a real need.
Its gives us space to put things in perspective. Here are some
suggestions.
If you have a friend with kids that also needs a break, you take all
the kids one evening a week and she/he takes all the kids one evening a
week. This would give you time just to clear your mind and catch your
breath. Believe it or not that free time will make the rest of the week
go much smoother.
If you have a relative that you are close to maybe they could give you
a break.
If your children are old enough you could establish quiet hour. On
hour in evening when everyone goes to his or her own space. They could
read or work on a project or.... its important that they go to separate
areas so they can't stir each other up.
The other thing is this and its really hard when you are going through
so much yourself, don't forget to have some fun with your kids too. If
you are really stressed out they are probably picking up on it and
feeling somewhat insecure.
I don't know if any of this will help. I hope so. Being a parent is
one of the most demanding tasks a person can face.
Kat, I know how you feel about picking up on other people's anger.
My husband has what I call free floating anger. He vents about all
kinds of distant stuff like politics, corporations, etc.
In the case of this kind of anger it helps to realize that its the other
persons feelings and not anything that you've done. Try not to take it
personally. This hard to do but it does take some of the edge off it.
Other anger can sometimes be defused by very simple statements that puts
the responsibility back on the source. Once my mother took off
screaming at me about everything I'd done wrong and the ended the tirade
by telling me that I was the disappointment of her life. I don't know
where it came from but i told that i was sorry she felt that way. That
was the end of it. She looked totally dumbfounded. But the feelings
were hers and I politely gave them right back to her.
With all of this I can honestly say that I still have problems
handling other peoples feelings but maybe these suggestions will help in
some instances. Hope so. Also Whenever possible put space between
yourself and the angry person can help. Like say, " Oh, excuse me a
minute I have to use the bathroom, let the dog out, .......
I'm thinking of you both.
barb
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 23:42:53 -0400
From: Barbara Alexander <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Babble
Message-ID: <35F9EDBC.18B46C8AATnospamnetrax.net>
Oops! I think I just took a babbling fit. Feel free to ignore it. I
don't know what I'm talking about.
barb
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 21:08:32 -0700
From: Amanda Smith <mswingsATnospammaxinet.com>
To: "nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net" <nickynoodleATnospamnetrax.net>,
"ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com" <ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com>,
"kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: anger
Message-ID: <35F9F3C0.C45B503CATnospammaxinet.com>
Very Nice,...(raised eyebrows in appreciation for that one) Amanda
p.s. I just had a conversation with my 9 year old about her being emotional
for the last week telling her that I can not make her heart happy. That I
will help her learn how but she must learn to find whats wrong and if
nothing but generals come to play then maybe she needs to work more on what
is right instead of what is wrong. It sound too grown up for a nine year
old to some but those who know her know she is very caught between older
young lady and a kid. I have always tried to show her she has the choice
stick or walk when someone is cruel, to choose life or living, to look for
the smallest of happy thoughts to fill her heart or to let the big bad black
cloud take over. She has daddy fall out from what I call sensory
deprevation at her dads. Now if I only came to see her every two weeks I
might fill them with Disneyland too but she does not want for anything and
comes back to the real world of getting up for school etc. I know she has
it hard but what do I do let her cry or teach her how to pull herself out of
it. If I let her cry she would miss school everyday and distraction is only
a bandaide... on a broken wing... Any ideas? Amanda
Barbara Alexander wrote:
> I'm not sure how much this has to do with k but anger frequently
> occurs when either our wants or our needs are not being fulfilled. Even
> the very youngest babies have this response and this is not meant to
> imply anything other than the fact that it is a very basic human
> response. It has to do with threats to our security in the case of need
> and threats to our self worth in case of wants. We learn at very early
> age that we can not have everything we want the minute we want it.
> Needs are different story.
> Denise: Having children is hard to deal with when we are trying to
> work through our own problems. Time to think and rest is a real need.
> Its gives us space to put things in perspective. Here are some
> suggestions.
> If you have a friend with kids that also needs a break, you take all
> the kids one evening a week and she/he takes all the kids one evening a
> week. This would give you time just to clear your mind and catch your
> breath. Believe it or not that free time will make the rest of the week
> go much smoother.
> If you have a relative that you are close to maybe they could give you
> a break.
> If your children are old enough you could establish quiet hour. On
> hour in evening when everyone goes to his or her own space. They could
> read or work on a project or.... its important that they go to separate
> areas so they can't stir each other up.
> The other thing is this and its really hard when you are going through
> so much yourself, don't forget to have some fun with your kids too. If
> you are really stressed out they are probably picking up on it and
> feeling somewhat insecure.
> I don't know if any of this will help. I hope so. Being a parent is
> one of the most demanding tasks a person can face.
> Kat, I know how you feel about picking up on other people's anger.
> My husband has what I call free floating anger. He vents about all
> kinds of distant stuff like politics, corporations, etc.
> In the case of this kind of anger it helps to realize that its the other
> persons feelings and not anything that you've done. Try not to take it
> personally. This hard to do but it does take some of the edge off it.
> Other anger can sometimes be defused by very simple statements that puts
> the responsibility back on the source. Once my mother took off
> screaming at me about everything I'd done wrong and the ended the tirade
> by telling me that I was the disappointment of her life. I don't know
> where it came from but i told that i was sorry she felt that way. That
> was the end of it. She looked totally dumbfounded. But the feelings
> were hers and I politely gave them right back to her.
> With all of this I can honestly say that I still have problems
> handling other peoples feelings but maybe these suggestions will help in
> some instances. Hope so. Also Whenever possible put space between
> yourself and the angry person can help. Like say, " Oh, excuse me a
> minute I have to use the bathroom, let the dog out, .......
> I'm thinking of you both.
> barb
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 06:33:27 +0100
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>
To: "Kundalini - L" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Special K
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Let's Pretend.
Let's pretend that I (not you but I) am a spiritual person. I will
tell you of the things I can do. The things I can see and
experience. I'll even believe what I am saying to give it all more
impact.
Let's pretend that I am so knowledgeable that I (and only I can do
this) have to invent new words to explain the profundity of who and
what I am. Now I know you want to believe me, because I know how
much I believe such things.
We could pretend. Or we could realise we are that big ego, that
complete fraud
Lobster
(Don't try this at home kundalites - people might laugh)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1998 22:54:31 PDT
From: "b bah" <happyhunaATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: message to Angelique
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Hi,
Have you put a filter on your ATnospamdomin8rex.com mailbox? Every message I
send to you says"HI.This is the qmail-send program......"This is a
permanent error.. <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com: Sorry I couldn't find anyhost
named domin8rex.com. etc. etc. VEERRRY FRUSTRATING>
love,barb
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