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1998/08/31 16:11
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #616

kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 616

Today's Topics:
  Re: K experience?or...what? [ Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich ]
  poem [ Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich ]
  FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!! [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
  Re: Sparks of light.. [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
  Re: K experience? or......what? [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  Re: Is this part of the K experience [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: Drinking and K [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ]
  Re: Is this part of the K experience [ "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:47:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
To: CKRESSATnospamaol.com
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: K experience?or...what?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980831164315.23881A-100000ATnospamqbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

On Sat, 29 Aug 1998 CKRESSATnospamaol.com wrote:

> Katherine wrote that her computer "is doing things completely on its own!"
> When Kundalini is active, all kinds of paranormal and other weirdness can
> occur in electrical equipment, including battery operated appliances. I've

 My phone service has been having severe and severly strange
problems for almost a week now. Sometimes I can hear another person
using their phone (across town, I know because I asked them!),
sometimes a busy signal, sometime it's totally dead, sometimes
the recording of the operator saying "If you need help,
hang and dial again."
> Katherine also mentions "a ringing noise like a telephone that is not being
> answered" that happens "over and over and over again." I've heard of numerous
> cases of this phenomena, which often seems related to spirits trying to
> contact us.


Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 17:00:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
To: Lori Nelson <amarantATnospamunisono.net.mx>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: poem
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980831165755.23881B-100000ATnospamqbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

(I did this on my refrigerator last week
with a set of "magnetic poetry" words)

let love grow this wild slender summer minute
into a dark full blossom sound
how many secret tendrils has my song?

the wind builds
and teaches

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 16:28:11 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: "'Barry'" <barcoeATnospamtelevar.com>, "'BigCat (Robert)'" <bc_1ATnospamyahoo.com>,
 "'RionTrainer'" <besewellATnospampop.gate.net>, "'Sergio'" <bwscATnospamhotmail.com>,
 "'Jdemb'" <Dembiak_Jeffery_JATnospambns.att.com>,
 "'Dal'" <dlsteelATnospamnuskin.net>, "'Wings'" <freefireATnospampacebell.net>,
 "'HU'" <jimATnospamdmv.com>, "'Jonathon'"
 "'keith'" <keithkozickiATnospamhotmail.com>,
  <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "'Windy'" <monarchATnospamwctc.net>,
 "'Dancing'" <rube2sdeATnospamyahoo.com>, "'Mom'"
 "'scott'" <sevensmilesATnospamyahoo.com>, "'sfret'"
 "'Shiva'" <ShivaATnospamgte.net>, "'Soulfall'"
 "'Darren'" <techmanATnospamdmi.net>, "'Tim'" <timhATnospamsrv.net>,
 "'Twinnkky'" <twinnkkyATnospamyahoo.com>
Subject: FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!!
Message-Id: <199808312130.QAA19629ATnospamtcusa.com>
Content-Type: text/plain;


From: Fenske, John W. (Artco)
Sent: Monday, August 31, 1998 2:26 PM
To: Parke, Tannis M. (Artco); Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)
Subject: FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!!

From: Jones, Kimber L. (Artco)
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 10:07 AM
To: ennoATnospamcyberhighway.net; C. LaMar Jones; challis; Parkinson, Debbie
K. (Artco); Jim Bissette; Fenske, John W. (Artco); unicorngATnospamida.net;
prepress (Artco); Rick Harris; Spaulding, Monty F. (Artco); stormy;
Valerie Gutierrez; Wade, Dana E. (Artco); 'vikenfjordATnospamaol.com';
'thelmawATnospamonline.no'; 'hpjacobsATnospamonline.no'
Subject: FW: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!!

From: Kimberly
Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 1998 7:45 AM
To: Nantucket26610ATnospamyahoo.com; dwm35ATnospamhotmail.com; terrybATnospamsihope.com;
kari-frazeeATnospamusa.net; J.R.GardnerATnospamworldnet.att.net;
truecowboy1ATnospamhotmail.com; bartenderATnospamgargoyle.clarkson.edu;
kljonesATnospamArtco.Zgate.com; elvira3ATnospamhotmail.com; jtailgateATnospamsonetcom.com;
lori-xlATnospamrocketmail.com; bpendletonATnospamhotmail.com; cowboyATnospamfavorites.com;
wldhcwbyATnospaminame.com; mrsattitudeATnospamhotmail.com
Subject: Fwd: Fwd: FW: FW: Let's all go!!

---mike browning <browningATnospamnetwestonline.com> wrote:
> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822
> >From chandra_hattenATnospamtyco-valves.com Tue Aug 25
07:17:34 1998
> >Received: from Notes.Tyco-Valves.Com
> [])
> > by virtual4.c-com.net (8.8.5/8.8.5) with SMTP id
> > Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:17:26 -0500 (CDT)
> >From: Chandra_HattenATnospamTyco-Valves.com
> >X-Cmta: wGWrSr0yeJug6
> >Received: by Notes.Tyco-Valves.Com(Lotus SMTP MTA
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> >X-Lotus-FromDomain: TYCO
> >To: jamielynn_21ATnospamhotmail.com, ONEEYE77ATnospamaol.com,
> > PHarbesATnospamDreco.com,
> > Lynn_CravenATnospamTyco-Valves.com,
> > Denise_FortnerATnospamTyco-Valves.com,
> >Message-ID:
> >Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1998 09:14:51 -0500
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> > > >Content-Disposition: inline
> >
> >
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Chandra
Hatten/US/Tyco on 08/25/98
> >09:08 AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Evelyn Toppass
> >08/25/98 09:01 AM
> >
> >To: Chandra Hatten/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Vicky
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Evelyn
Toppass/US/Tyco on 08/25/98
> >09:01 AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Dawn Jenkins
> >08/24/98 05:27 PM
> >
> >To: Annette Smith/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Veronica
Dawson/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Twligh
> > Parker/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dorothy
Harris/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Linda
> > Mitchell/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Stephanie
Williams/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Karen
> > Mehlenbacher/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Chris
Yohner/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Rodney
> > Holley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Deirdre
Kelly/US/TycoATnospamTyco, JT
> > Williams/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Andrea
Richmond/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Ileana
> > Altamirez/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Evelyn
Toppass/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Mary
> > Cousins/US/TycoATnospamTyco
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >I want to go!!!!! Don't YOU!!!!!
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Dawn
Jenkins/US/Tyco on 08/24/98
> 05:25
> >PM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Dyltrid Harris
> >08/24/98 11:30 AM
> >
> >To: Brenda Bayer/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Gary
Emerson/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Jan
> > Engram/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Vanessa
Winters/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Earl
> > Richard/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Eliana
Rocabado/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Andrea
> > Richmond/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Helen
Johnson/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dawn
> > Jenkins/US/TycoATnospamTyco,
> > temirra_dATnospamhotmail.com, luckyjATnospamgte.net,
a312886ATnospammem.ti.com, Anita
> > Kissentaner <Anita.Kissentaner ATnospam
OAG.STATE.TX.US>, Jeff Lynch at
> > KeypagcoATnospamKeyxchg, Boi Truong/US/TycoATnospamTyco,
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >I want to go also......
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Dyltrid
Harris/US/Tyco on 08/24/98
> >11:23 AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Chris Wells
> >08/24/98 11:18 AM
> >
> >To: manncoATnospamflash.net, CHTX33ATnospamaol.com, Scott
> Marcy
> > De Leon/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Christina
Garza/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dyltrid
> > Harris/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Linda
Manske/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Twligh
> > Parker/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Hari
Rajasekaran/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Joe
> > Weido/US/TycoATnospamTyco, zilrazATnospamwebtv.net,
> > APhillipsATnospamuh.edu, Ileana
Altamirez/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Kathy
> > Blaine/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Rocky
Chapman/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Tom
> > Glidden/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dina Dizon/US/TycoATnospamTyco
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Chris
Wells/US/Tyco on 08/24/98
> 11:48
> >AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Bob Moore
> >08/24/98 10:18 AM
> >
> >To: Sherry Bayat <Sherry.BayatATnospamglm.com> AT
> John
> > Kelley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Roy
Murugasu/SG/TycoATnospamTyco, Andrea
> > Richmond/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Chris
Wells/US/TycoATnospamTyco, John
> > Green/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Davida
Zemko/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Mark
> > Zivley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Cindy Zalme/US/TycoATnospamTyco
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Bob
Moore/US/Tyco on 08/24/98 11:16
> AM
> >---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Robert Thomas
> >08/24/98 09:59 AM
> >
> >To: Glenn Prewett/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Gary
Emerson/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Tom
> > Higgins/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Emile
Tezzo/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Shirley
> > Willis/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Joe
Downing/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Steve
> > Campbell/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Veronica
Bolden/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Mary
> > Cousins/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Chris
Brouwer/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Gretchen
> > Conley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Jeff
Conley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Lynn
> > Craven/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Veronica
Dawson/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Jerry
> > Donnelly/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Bill
Ellerbrock/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Tim
> > Glover/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Katrina
Green/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Les
> > Gustin/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Mark
Hamilton/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Marianne
> > Helmer/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Rodney
Holley/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dawn
> > Jenkins/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Mary Lou
Lackey/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Morris
> > Lemburg/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Michael
Matusek/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Charles
> > Morrin/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Bob Moore/US/TycoATnospamTyco,
> > Mitchell/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Twligh
Parker/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Geri
> > Page/US/TycoATnospamTyco, David
Paradis/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Eliana
> > Rocabado/US/TycoATnospamTyco, George
Rowe/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Corky
> > Smith/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dale
Smith/USA/TycoATnospamTyco, Annette
> > Smith/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Jim Spahr/US/TycoATnospamTyco,
> > Stansbury/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Kathleen
Stephens/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Dan
> > Tavener/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Scott
Thedford/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Joe
> > Weido/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Rita
Wellborn/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Daniel
> > Willis/US/TycoATnospamTyco, Daniel Wyant/US/TycoATnospamTyco
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >i want to
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Robert
Thomas/US/Tyco on 08/24/98
> 09:28
> >AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >mary.thomasATnospammwk.com on 08/21/98 04:08:57 PM
> >
> >To: LyonshackATnospamaol.com, Robert Thomas/US/Tyco,
> > davidATnospamwhidbey.net, james.kaplanATnospamskynet.be,
> > merryATnospamleading.net, sharon.edgeATnospammwk.com,
> > barbara.lincolnATnospammwk.com, sharon.macowATnospammwk.com,
> > barbara.moccabeeATnospammwk.com,
> > mary.vranesevichATnospammwk.com,
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Please forward.... we might be $5,000 richer.
> >
> >______________________________ Forward Header
> >__
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >Author: Karen Dudley at KHNT010D
> >Date: 8/21/98 2:16 PM
> >
> >Please forward this on.......................I
really want to go to
> Disney
> >World.
> >
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Maria
Sandoval/HOU/ECT on 08/21/98
> >12:55 PM ---------------------------
> >
> >
> >Nichole GunterATnospamEES
> >08/21/98 11:37 AM
> >
> >To: pamela_j_ashleyATnospammail.bankone.com,
> > kablackATnospamshellus.com, Pamela
> >kmclarkATnospambechtel.com,
> > Petual Clark/HOU/ECTATnospamECT, MClayATnospamUH.EDU,
> > djacksonATnospambankunited.com, deagletonATnospambr-inc.com,
> >levansATnospamparknet.pmh.org,
> > tanya_a_gordonATnospamemail.mobil.com,
> > patrick.jeffersonATnospamcompaq.com,
> kingcATnospamwellsfargo.com,
> > angela.r.marshallATnospamac.com,
metoytmATnospamtexaco.com, Mark C
> > Mitchell/HOU/EESATnospamEES,
> > ashleigh.s.rosetteATnospamarthuranderson.com,
> Maria
> > Sandoval/HOU/ECTATnospamECT, seannasATnospamteleteam.net,
> > shante.thomasATnospamprudential.com,
> > awillia2ATnospamtuelectric.com,
> > sean_zenoATnospamyahoo.com
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >Hey guys,
> >This sounds too good to be true...and it probably
is! But just in case
> we
> >can actually cash in, here it is.
> >---------------------- Forwarded by Nichole
Gunter/HOU/EES on 08/21/98
> >11:30 AM ---------------------------
> >
> >
<kalena.sowells1ATnospamjsc.nasa.gov> on 08/21/98
> >10:29:39 AM
> >
> >To: "'Alaurna'" <ashooeyATnospamwest.raytheon.com>,
> > <angieATnospambaileynm.com>, "'Apriel'"
<apowellATnospam1care.org>, "BARLOW,
> > M. (JSC-EC)"
<feldon.m.barlow1ATnospamjsc.nasa.gov>, "'Catherine'"
> > <046cb815ATnospamfortbend.k12.tx.us>, "'Crawford,
> > <crawford_1ATnospamhotmail.com>, "'Frog'"
> <kermit_p_wooleyATnospamaud.alcatel.com>,
> > "'Graham, Mechelle'" <mjgrahamATnospamatt.com>,
> > <rhodes04ATnospamhotmail.com>, "'Mike Graham'"
> > Nichole Gunter/HOU/EES, "'Paul A. Delesbore'"
> > <padelesboreATnospammailexcite.com>,
> > <tinicia.petersonATnospamlmco.com>, "'Sheffield,
> >
> > <s-whittaker1ATnospamti.com>, "'Tony'"
> > <Antony.ClaybornATnospammailgate.eiw38.af.mil>
> >cc:
> >Subject: FW: FW: Let's all go!!]
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> > >Folks,
> >> > >
> >> > >I called Disney my damn self. It's no lie.
> all
> >> > owe me.
> >> >
> >>
> >> > Disney message & $5,000.00
> >> >
> >> > If you read below you will see the note from
> >> > Disney Jr. & Management at Disney World.
> >> > Basically if this messages reaches 13,000
> >> > everyone will receive $5,000.00 or a free,
all expenses paid trip
> >> > to Disney World in anytime during the summer
of 1999.
> >> >
> >> > Everyone is to resend to 15 individuals.
> >> > please read and forward to as many friends as
> >> > possible...we've checked up on this and this is
> >> > no joke of a chain letter or something if this
> >> > reaches 13,000 people...duplicate entries don't
> >> > count, though...So, please help & pass on...
> >> > thank you, and here you go!!!
> >> >
> >
> >> > >>>Hello Disney fans,
> >> > >>> And thank you for signing up for Bill
Gates' Beta
> >> > >>>Email Tracking. My name is Walt Disney Jr.
> >> > >>>Here at Disney we are working with
Microsoft which has just
> >> > >>>compiled an e-mail tracing program that
tracks everyone
> >> > >>>to whom this message is forwarded to. It
does this
> >> > >>>through an unique IP (Internet Protocol)
address log book
> database.
> >> > >>>We are experimenting with this and need
your help. Forward
> this
> >to
> >> > >>>everyone you know and if it reaches 13,000
people, 1,300 of the
> >> > >>>people on the list will receive $5,000,
and the rest will
> receive a
> >free
> >> > >>>trip for two to Disney World for one week
during the summer of
> >> > >>>1999 at our expense. Enjoy.

 Note: Duplicate entries will not be counted. You will
be notified by email with further instructions once
this email has reached 13,000 people.

Your friends,
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:31:39 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Sparks of light..
Message-ID: <19980831223139.16405.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain

>I dance salsa, alot, and I mean, siempre, I dance more than I eat....
>find that dancing is a major part of my expression of K.... I'm known
as a
>dancer... sounds like you will be too if you keep this up... The music
>play's me, it interprets it'self through my body and I surrender to it,
>with or without a partner (do you know salsa?).. Another good music is
>"Music to Disappear In" by Raphael, 1 & 2 for Shakti waves and
>grease through the Being... Sometimes I go out (sleep) with head
>on, directly to that realm...
> There are alot of music's that I use in my movement of Kundalini..
not at
>all your standard radio top 40.... I find that lyrics are baggage, and
>listen to alot of wordless and tongues beside my first or second, it's
>cleaner for me. I relate to Josephine Baker... sparks be flyin'...

I find that certain types of club music, i.e. hardcore (a.k.a. "jungle",
"drum-n-bass"), house (techno, rave), do just as well. Put a CD or tape
into your stereo system at home or portable tape/disk player as you
cruise through the subway, and focus on the music and nothing else, and
you're pretty assured that you will be relaxed, if you're not totally
zoned out first. Not only that, if you do this long enough, the songs
linger in the head and are hard to get out.

I can't really re-create my own experience, as this kind of thing
happened to me when I was younger. So I'm not quite sure if the
Kundalini awakening came first, or the music, but I know that the music
simply ain't going anywhere.

- Hudson

Web server (n.): One who gives away nearly invisble
appetizers during the course of a formal dinner.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 21:22:11 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Kat <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: K experience? or......what?
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980831211754.24672B-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Nopes Katharine not that far


On Mon, 31 Aug 1998, Kat wrote:

> Hi Anurag,
> I also love to walk with eyes closed and humming mantra and i always
> >find myself on the line of symmetry on the road i.e. exactly in the
> >center of road. Yeah i too can feel that something is there near me with
> >eyes closed.
> Do you ever feel the solid feeling of a person that is not there? Strange
> question I know but I must ask it.
> In L&L & Understanding,
> Katharine
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:36:01 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "guy johnson" <tantriciskATnospamhotmail.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
Message-ID: <000401bdd533$a1476120$39e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
Content-Type: text/plain;

 Hi Katrina,

>Dear Katharine: I believe the subtle shift occurs when one is able to
>release one's beliefs and become vulnerable in not knowing. Not knowing
allows us to pay attention to greater patterns than the ones we use to limit
our world, keep it in a smaller box so the ego can be fed and assured of
its greatness (it knows, it knows! it swears it does! and will rattle your
brain with skeptical questions in the hopes of maintaining the position of
decider in your life.) Once we surrender our false sense of self-protection
(for we are cared for always, whether we are aware of it or not), then this
thing called faith steps up and makes obvious the beauty and love which
abounds. And surrendering to that is like going home, really home, where the
love is unconditional and making mistakes helps us see the humor of this
momentary phase. Change is the constant. Growth is the result when we allow
it. with much love and the hopes that didn't sound preachy, your friend and
fellow path follower

No you did not sound preachy at all , you just sounded like a fellow path
follower that was sharing what she knew with me and I thank you for that. I
am beginning to see that I may have to lurk on the internet for a few
months. This is a good thing. The reason I am considering this is I think
it is time for me to take everything I have learnt deep inside of me and
learn each truth as it is meant to be. The time for questions is ending.
Now I have to take the answers and see what they mean to me. I'll still
post from time to time.....just not as much. Your words sounded a great
deal like truth to me. Thank you for sharing.

In L&L & Understanding,

Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 15:59:59 PDT
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Drinking and K
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>The effects of drinking were as if I had drank a case of beer, not four
>beers. This morning, I was very sick. Headache, sweats, throwing up. I
>got up once to puke and I actually fainted! I have never fainted before
>in my life! When I awoke a few seconds later, I was lying on the floor
>by the bathroom. I tried to arise, but for a few moments, it was like
>legs and arms wouldn't work. (I thought, this must be what dying feels
>like...feeling seperate from your body). Then I couldn't remember, why
>was by the bathroom or how I had gotten there.
>Here's my theory. I think that as we become more spiritually awake, our
>bodies change dramatically. Our substance becomes "lighter." When we
>engage in denser activities (like drinking alcohol), there's too much
>a gap between our spirits and our bodies and the result is
>I had to get sick so I could eliminate that dense material quickly and
>have my body and spirit realign.

Sounds like a new one to me. I thought that "denser activities", i.e.
drinking alcoholic stuff, eating meat, exercising, were to help to keep
one grounded. But I do think that anything to excess is definitely
going to cause imbalances.

>I've always rebelled against the advice from some religions and
>spiritual masters about avoiding alcohol. I think I understand this
>Has anyone else had a similar experience with their body--drinking,
>drugs, eating certain foods? Does anyone have another explanation of
>limited drinking could make someone so sick? I'd be very interested in
>other views.

I'll tell you right now, when I had diabetes (I consider myself healed
from that now) that gave me more of reason not to drink - it was bad
enough back in those days that I had difficulty keeping balance when I
walk sometimes. A doctor told me that it could happen because of that
condition. One time I when I was at another college (before being
transfer to my current one) I was walking at night from the convenience
store back to my dorm, and a police officer stop and asking me if I were
drunk. I remembered what my doctor told me, and I went on my way. That
of course, may not fully explain, since I read something at a Web site
about the balancing difficulty to be a Kundalini sign.

To be sure, though, I'd rather not drink. Kundalini could be rebelling
against alcohol too, as it works to clean out the body. I think that's
what it's doing to me when I put too much sugar into my body. But then,
I need it sometimes to keep from zoning out at work.

- Hudson

Web server (n.): One who gives away nearly invisble
appetizers during the course of a formal dinner.

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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1998 18:20:47 -0400
From: "Kat" <kcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <vooperATnospameagle.ptialaska.net>
Cc: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>, "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Is this part of the K experience?
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Hi Valerie,

> So, I am saying that I now believe that we must girder ourselves
>against evil & discarnate beings & be constantly vigilant. Even being
>vigilant once a day or so has not been enough!

Thank you for taking the time to share with me how you felt about this
subject and explaining to me what you , yourself have gone through. I
understood the points that you are making.

I tried to send my reply in private but it keeps bouncing back no matter
what way I try to do it. I understand what you mean by awareness but I
also understand what the others have been saying as well. I guess now what
I have to do is take everything that I have learnt in this subject within
myself now until I find the truth for me.

I thank you and everyone else who has taken the time to reply to a topic
that obviously makes many uncomfortable. I am blessed to have meet the
people that I have meet on the Internet.

In L&L & Understanding,



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