1998/08/27  09:56  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #600 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 600
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: warning: negative vibes           [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  Re: Ego                               [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  I AM                                  [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ] 
  RE: warning: negative vibes           [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ] 
  Boston- Seeking Kundalini teachers    [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Ego                               [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  Re: a question of evil                [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  Re: I AM                              [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ] 
  I AM                                  [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ] 
  Harsha's Change of address            [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: I AM Nirvikalpa                   [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Ego                               [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: I AM Nirvikalpa                   [ Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.co ] 
  Re: a question of evil                [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ] 
  Re: a question of evil                [ "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.or ] 
  Re: I AM Nirvikalpa                   [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Something funny - at last! :)     [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ] 
  Female problems                       [ "foster" <mytime2ATnospamemail.msn.com> ] 
  Re: Ego                               [ "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotm ] 
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:44:45 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: warning: negative vibes 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980826224445.00cfda9cATnospammail.fantasycorp.com> 
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 Not bitching at you for whining, we all have hard times... but suggesting 
you redirect it..:) 
 
At 03:08 PM 26/08/98 -0500, amckeonATnospamhsmail.nfld.k12.mn.us wrote: 
>My ADD makes it near impossible to concentrate on anything with a roomful 
>of yabbering kids,<...> 
>Yes, Angelique, I know I could try and cast a protective spell over my 
>stuff but my faith in such things is rather small. 
> I've got 8 years of retirement benefits built up 
>in the school system and I had a short term goal of at least making it 
>until I had 10 in. That way I could finally retire when I'm 75!!!!! Hah! 
    Hey darlin... light a candle to the Goddess, then go bitch at someone 
who can do something about it. If you are officially diagnosed with ADD, 
and hypoglycemia then putting you into a space that is unadaptable to your 
handicap is *discrimination*. Put in a polite complaint as high up as you 
can about your working conditions, and ask for whatever handicap benefits 
are available to you. You were ADD when they hired you, so they can't fire 
you for it without setting their own pants on fire. School systems are big 
places.. certainly they would rather transfer you to a nice quiet office 
and give you something to do for 2 years, rather than endure the negative 
publicity they would generate for abusing someone with a "learning disorder."  
  If you are not yet officially diagnosed, likely the guidance counsellor 
at the school can recommend a specialist to label you.  
>amckeon 
>*kundalini-schmundalini; it doesn't pay the rent* 
>:-P~
 
 Of course, if you really hate the job, then you can always go tell a 
shrink about your K., have yourself declared insane and retire on handicap 
benefits... :) In the meantime, I suggest you track down a book called "How 
to survive without a salary", to inspire you put of the box of [9-5 or 
Domination], lack of options thinking. The key to being self-employed, is 
to find an activity you are so passionate about, that you would do it even 
if no-one paid you.. then let Goddess show you a way to make it pay. Follow 
your bliss.  
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 22:54:42 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ego 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980826225442.00cf56b8ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com> 
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At 05:24 PM 26/08/98 PDT, Hudson Jackson II wrote: 
>17. .: They believed the serpent. 
>18. .: They believed a lie. 
    The Serpent did not lie..  
  We never left Eden.. unconditional love does not reject. 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/eden.htm   
  Blessings, Serpent. 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 06:46:28 +0000 
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: I AM 
Message-ID: <35E500C4.D55D0A9BATnospammhonline.net> 
 
Alan, 
you wrote, 
 There is no to or from. the way is. the I AM is. 
I think there is a goal. A blossoming. A fullfillment,completion and 
perfection. I don't see it as a mere self realization,unless you carry 
that all the way through to the Self(God within) unifying with the Self 
,God. But then that involves activity and growth also. Not a sitting 
around in Heaven playing harps but a nitty gritty working out in word 
and deed(on whatever planet we may find ourselves) so as to invoke a 
response from the temple of the Living God within the heart of people. 
I believe there are octaves and progressing initiations and if I 
remember my A. Bailey, "you can not proceed and pass through the door 
unless you turn to take the hand of the one behind you". I interpet this 
as the person behind one or the kingdom behind or "below" one. If we are 
vegetarian then I think that advances the vegetable kingdom, and if we 
intereact and work with crystals then that enhances and elevates that 
kingdom.These people or kingdoms achieve vibrancy and depth. Ever 
increasing spirals and octaves of perfection.The angelic kingdom is also 
quite busy in assisting the Godhead in our human advancement. 
     Goal or path. Goal and Path. Goal.For me the path is sometimes 
unclear,frustrating , sensless, incredibly beautiful, totally humbling, 
beyond words, and amazing. 
     But the grand and Glorious Goal is (without sounding arrogant) a 
little bit clearer to me. I carried it through all the way one day and 
it means that I believe God advances. God evolves. You mean He/She is 
and was not perfect from the beginning? Yup. 
     The Ain Soph of the Kabbala resides in perfection but THAT remains 
veilved. Once creation begins and the veils extend downward then there 
is also a lack of perfection increasing in amount the lower one goes. 
As we climb and advance our way back up , 
May each of our paths be filled with,
 
More Light!,
 
+ Maureen 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 12:48:19 +0100 
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: warning: negative vibes 
Message-ID: <000701bdd1b0$96545380$50f14dc3ATnospamjb> 
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 charset="iso-8859-1" 
 
 ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> Would garlic pills/tablets work the same?
 
Jan: No - These will not cause what is "unwanted" in Northern countries and 
"accepted" in Southern countries. Even for health, the 'real thing' is 
always better than extracts/pills, no matter what commercials may suggest. 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:58:23 EDT 
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
To: mtvictoryATnospamhotmail.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject:  Boston- Seeking Kundalini teachers 
Message-ID: <9165a134.35e557f1ATnospamaol.com> 
 
> Can anyone suggest or reccomend teachers or centre's for Kundalini Yoga  
 in the Greater Boston/Cambridge area. I would like to join 
 for Kundalini yoga classes. Any info or pointers would be helpful.> 
  
  
 Try this page....  
 
 http://www.sikhnet.com/IKYTA 
 
 This is the International Directory of Kundalini Yoga Centers.
 
xxxtg 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:27:00 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: AfperryATnospamaol.com 
cc: hjackson2ATnospamHOTMAIL.COM, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ego 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980827081814.28831A-100000ATnospamwinc0> 
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 AfperryATnospamaol.com wrote: 
>  
> IMHO God gave us the option to be disobedient, through the lessons of which we 
> may or may not grow to be obedient. But we have to learn that for ourselves 
> and there is no shortcut. Surely that's what free will means. Of course we 
> have responsibilities, but once again we have to learn those the hard way.
 
ok, me got one stupid question on all this stuff.
 
where is the "god" that gave "you" the option to be "disobedient" to 
"what"? (impish gryn)
 
the sun knows her track in the sky
 
but she does not say to me,
 
its now time to shine. 
 
the treefrog chirps 
to alert her boyfriend she's 
near.
 
the spring comes, 
the grass grows 
by itself.
 
True freedom is not 
in static rules, 
but in the way 
that always was. 
 
imo, this 'disobedience' is simply a forgetfulness of our job. humans are 
the only critters that dont seem to know what to do with themselves.
 
Where lies true freedom? to me the main tragedy in this whole picture is 
when we get all caught up in desire for this & that and lose our freedom. 
i do it all the time, im an expert on suffering :). many aeons of 
experience on this one ;) 
 
i dont relate well to this genesis story, but what makes more sense in my 
little brain is the desire factor. everything was fine until desire showed 
up. then karmic vision changes....voila' no more garden of eden. but i 
think that if one would lose desire, it would suddenly show up out of 
nowhere....
 
the highways glitter with the jewels of Amitabha's pureland, 
how wonderful this traffic jam is :)
 
maitri,
 
--dao(Janpa Tsomo) 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 08:32:46 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: F19AshATnospamaol.com 
cc: KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, 
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: a question of evil 
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On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 F19AshATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
> if people do something bad...then isnt it considered evil or bad then? 
> Certainly, it is not considered good.  Such as murder.  I consider murder evil 
> dont you?  Like murder, evil seems very present on earth, and that is because 
> hell is much closer to earth than heaven (i believe).  Demons spread evil and 
> in turn humans pass it on sometimes i suppose.  Dont you agree? 
> Emily (M)
 
hehehehe, pretty funny :). 
 
in one of Buddha's past lives he murdered to save a bunch of other beings 
who would have died. at least on my path, sometimes its a virtue :) Fact 
is one of the bodhisattva vows says that one has to be willing to break 
one of the main precepts (like abstainance of killing, or alchohol etc.) 
in order to save another being. 
 
where's your good & evil now? *good* and *evil* are interdependent too, 
they inter-are as Thich Nhat Hanh writes. 
 
and the worst demons i've found are the critters in my head formed of my 
own stupid tendencies and thoughts. aint nothing outside or nothing 
inside, karma and the parents of thought itself just sorta are there, you 
gotta deal with it imo. 
 
maitri, 
--janpa 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 15:52:02 +0200 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: I AM 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980827155202.00ca5c70ATnospammustafa.hempseed.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 02:24 27.08.1998. PDT, you wrote: 
>At 06:44 1998.08.26 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:>Alan,>you said, 
>>Kundalini is inclusive and "says" a Way.Yes. a Way - - - TO??? theGreat 
>>I AM That I Am. References to ? I would say,"Living water",Pentecost 
>>with the firey tongues over the crown centers, the Holy Spirit Mother, 
>>etc.I always believed the gifts of the Holy Spirit are the gifts of 
>>Kundalini, , the results are similar. I have enjoyed very much joining 
>>this group yet am waiting for the duscusions of what the way leads To. 
>>So much talk on the phenomena,which is wonderful but what does it lead 
>>to? Not 24 hour orgasms of the body but I think rather 24 hour 
>>ectasies,(never could spell that sucker) of the soul. Yes??? 
>Excellent! That is the very question that is on my mind for some  
>daysnow, 
>and I've been wondering should I ask it here or not... what is the goal- 
>and is there one?  
>Self realization? I would put it differently: is it the goal or thepath?  
> 
>     There is no to or from. the way is. the I AM is.  I AM THE WAY. 
>no strings. unconditional. ...
 
Yes, OK, I agree... but you somehow lost the relative. Maybe unplugging 
into the Absolute really is the goal, because on the bottom line, nothing 
else exists... but relativity is very real and I would be very careful 
about just dismissing it, you know... So far there are only two good 
theories: buddhism/vedanta as one, and theosophy as the other. The first 
theory basically dismisses the relative, and the second says "OK, of course 
everything is brahman bla bla, but in the relative the goal is to evolve 
through the individual ego through finer and finer substance until there is 
Absolute on the both sides of the ego. I prefer the theosophical version, 
since it seems to include the "all is brahman" and "there is no existence" 
versions. 
Now, if what I wrote makes sense, I'll be really surprized. :)))
 
Oh, yes... something I want to add. The guys who get to enter nirvikalpa 
samadhi and all that "I AM" stuff all seem to be on the mental plane, 
according to the theosophy... I would actually say that all that absolute 
stuff is just a direct contact with the mental substance. One other thing, 
the scriptures say that there are subtle (suksma, meaning astral/mental) 
worlds inhabited by yogis in the constant state of nirvikalpa samadhi. 
Well, so much for the unplugging into the absolute thing. It doesn't work, 
you still have a very real ego existing on some plane or another, and 
samadhi seems to be the way of avoiding the inevidable: working through the 
ego and purifying it completely, until, finally, ... now here is the place 
where I have a problem, until WHAT?
 
----- 
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Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:11:03 +0000 
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: I AM 
Message-ID: <35E530B7.B8DEAADBATnospammhonline.net> 
 
Alan, 
you wrote, 
 There is no to or from. the way is. the I AM is. 
I think there is a goal. A blossoming. A fullfillment,completion and 
perfection. I don't see it as a mere self realization,unless you carry 
that all the way through to the Self(God within) unifying with the Self 
,God. But then that involves activity and growth also. Not a sitting 
around in Heaven playing harps but a nitty gritty working out in word 
and deed(on whatever planet we may find ourselves) so as to invoke a 
response from the temple of the Living God within the heart of people. 
I believe there are octaves and progressing initiations and if I 
remember my A. Bailey, "you can not proceed and pass through the door 
unless you turn to take the hand of the one behind you". I interpet this 
as the person behind one or the kingdom behind or "below" one. If we are 
vegetarian then I think that advances the vegetable kingdom, and if we 
intereact and work with crystals then that enhances and elevates that 
kingdom.These people or kingdoms achieve vibrancy and depth. Ever 
increasing spirals and octaves of perfection.The angelic kingdom is also 
quite busy in assisting the Godhead in our human advancement. 
     Goal or path. Goal and Path. Goal.For me the path is sometimes 
unclear,frustrating , sensless, incredibly beautiful, totally humbling, 
beyond words, and amazing. 
     But the grand and Glorious Goal is (without sounding arrogant) a 
little bit clearer to me. I carried it through all the way one day and 
it means that I believe God advances. God evolves. You mean He/She is 
and was not perfect from the beginning? Yup. 
     The Ain Soph of the Kabbala resides in perfection but THAT remains 
veilved. Once creation begins and the veils extend downward then there 
is also a lack of perfection increasing in amount the lower one goes. 
As we climb and advance our way back up , 
May each of our paths be filled with,
 
More Light!,
 
+ Maureen 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:16:39 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Harsha's Change of address 
Message-ID: <22790bb4.35e56a48ATnospamaol.com> 
 
I will soon be giving up my aol account but will be posting from my college 
account which is hlutharATnospambryant.edu. I am sorry if I have been unable to 
answer some e-mail.
 
Harsha 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:14:12 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com 
To: dturinaATnospamhempseed.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: I AM Nirvikalpa 
Message-ID: <743cbb45.35e569b5ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 8/27/1998 6:56:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes:
 
<< Oh, yes... something I want to add. The guys who get to enter nirvikalpa 
 samadhi and all that "I AM" stuff all seem to be on the mental plane, 
 according to the theosophy... I would actually say that all that absolute 
 stuff is just a direct contact with the mental substance. One other thing, 
 the scriptures say that there are subtle (suksma, meaning astral/mental) 
 worlds inhabited by yogis in the constant state of nirvikalpa samadhi. >>
 
Harsha: Self is the Absolute Reality and certainly beyond any astral, causal, 
buddhic planes (or whatever names one chooses to give) etc.  Nirvikalpa means 
That which is Without any Kalpas or forms (concepts, imagination, thoughts, 
etc.).  The experience of even the highest planes and celestial regions can 
only take place in higher Savikalpa Samadhis.  Savikalpa means with form. 
Experience of higher planes is only possible in Savikalpa but Nirvikalpa takes 
one beyond the realm of experience to That Which is the Foundation of  ALL 
Experience.  Although great joy and delight may be experienced in certain 
Savikalpa Samadhis, it does not end mental agitation or the potential for 
suffering.  Nirvikalpa Samadhi Reveals the Nature of the Self on which all 
planes of existence depend.   
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:37:34 EDT 
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ego 
Message-ID: <4a8801d5.35e56f2fATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 8/27/98 9:27:46 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dorf01ATnospammail.win.org writes:
 
<< but i think that if one would lose desire, it would suddenly show up out of 
 nowhere.... >>
 
What if we were to *know*, via faith (?), that all our needs (desires?) are 
already met, and that we need do nothing.... We are complete and whole right 
now, although we don't see it nor feel it.  
 
 "Blessed are ye who believe, yet do not see."  
 
hmmmm sounds like a good place to *be*.  Think I'll try it.  This desire thing 
gets to be a bummer after a while.
 
Hooked on Wholeness Works for Me! 
xxxtg
 
* It's My Destiny *
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 16:57:23 +0200 
From: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: I AM Nirvikalpa 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980827165723.00972540ATnospammustafa.hempseed.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 10:14 1998.08.27 EDT, you wrote: 
>In a message dated 8/27/1998 6:56:53 AM Pacific Daylight Time, 
>dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes: 
> 
><< Oh, yes... something I want to add. The guys who get to enter nirvikalpa 
> samadhi and all that "I AM" stuff all seem to be on the mental plane, 
> according to the theosophy... I would actually say that all that absolute 
> stuff is just a direct contact with the mental substance. One other thing, 
> the scriptures say that there are subtle (suksma, meaning astral/mental) 
> worlds inhabited by yogis in the constant state of nirvikalpa samadhi. >> 
> 
>Harsha: Self is the Absolute Reality and certainly beyond any astral, causal, 
>buddhic planes (or whatever names one chooses to give) etc.  Nirvikalpa means 
>That which is Without any Kalpas or forms (concepts, imagination, thoughts, 
>etc.).  The experience of even the highest planes and celestial regions can 
>only take place in higher Savikalpa Samadhis.  Savikalpa means with form. 
>Experience of higher planes is only possible in Savikalpa but Nirvikalpa 
takes 
>one beyond the realm of experience to That Which is the Foundation of  ALL 
>Experience.  Although great joy and delight may be experienced in certain 
>Savikalpa Samadhis, it does not end mental agitation or the potential for 
>suffering.  Nirvikalpa Samadhi Reveals the Nature of the Self on which all 
>planes of existence depend.  
 
I don't think that you actually read what I write, you just go on with your 
stuff. Listen, will ya? Sathya loka, or brahma loka, or siddha loka, by 
definition, are worlds inhabited by yogis who have realized Self and are 
emerged in nirvikalpa samadhi. When you went into samadhi and back, your 
ego didn't disappear, it was as fucked up as before, you just unplugged 
from it. 
As far as the substance of the mental plane, you may have some surprizes 
there, meaning, compared to the degree of limitations and conditioning of 
the lower vehicles, it really looks and feels like One Undivided Self 
(looking at the table, the apple, the car... this is made of Me, it is what 
I Am... everything!). The problem is, it is not even half way to the goal. 
The depth of the perception is different, everything, but the difference is 
enough to blow you away. Mental plane=heart, FYI, samadhi through anahata. 
The thing Sri Yuktesvar used to initiate Yogananda into samadhi. Sri 
Yuktesvar is the source of what I am telling you - Hiranya loka, the world 
inhabited by yogis who managed to enter nirvikalpa samadhi at least once in 
their last life on Earth. That world is higher astral, according to Sri 
Yuktesvar - mental plane, according to theosophical naming conventions 
(also devachana or sukhavati). Well, that place sure is nice (been there, 
it really is - awesome is a better word), but it deffinitely isn't the 
goal. It has many qualities of the goal, but if you really were at the 
goal, believe me, you wouldn't write this shit right now, there would be no 
Harsha to return or to write or to exist. 
What I want to say is, you are very, very distant from realization. Better 
correct your page on the web. ;)
 
----- 
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 02:50:53 -0700 
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: a question of evil 
Message-ID: <19980827.025053.9158.0.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>
 
Say there is a forest somewhere with some oak trees.  Some of the acorns 
fall on the ground and are eaten be animals.  Others bake in the sun.  
Some die from lack of water and some are choked out by the underbrush 
after they started to sprout.  The forest is a treacherous place from the 
perspective of an acorn.  The little squirrels that eat the acorns are 
downright devils.   A monk passing by might only notice the beauty of 
forest.
 
Do you choose to see the world from the perspective of the acorn or the 
monk? 
 
Blessings to all acorns and monks,
 
 
Geoffrey
 
 
 
 
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Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 10:09:24 -0500 (CDT) 
From: "Debora A. Orf" <dorf01ATnospammail.win.org> 
To: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com 
cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: a question of evil 
Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.96.980827100904.5471B-100000ATnospamwinc0> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
On Thu, 27 Aug 1998 geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com wrote: 
>  
> Do you choose to see the world from the perspective of the acorn or the 
> monk? 
 
no monk 
no acorn 
only world.
 
--jt 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 11:58:21 EDT 
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: I AM Nirvikalpa 
Message-ID: <977cfb47.35e5821dATnospamaol.com>> 
 
In a message dated 8/27/98 11:01:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 
dturinaATnospamhempseed.com writes:
 
< What I want to say is, you are very, very distant from realization. Better 
 correct your page on the web. ;) >
 
Would you accuse yourself of this?  
 
xxxtg
 
* He looked at me at though I were a side dish he hadn't ordered *
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 20:07:01 +0500 
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Something funny - at last! :) 
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I am quite ignorant in fact. Will anybody tell whether the following is in 
any way connected with Kundalini matter !!??
 
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At 10:14 AM 8/26/98 +0200, you wrote: 
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>  This one is pretty funny AND true: 
>  At a recent computer expo (COMDEX), Bill Gates reportedly compared 
>  the computer industry with the auto industry and stated that :- 
> 
>  "If GM had kept up with technology like the computer industry has, 
>  we would all be driving twenty-five dollar cars that got 1000 miles 
>  to the gallon." 
>  In response to Bill's comments, General Motors issued a press 
>  release stating: 
>  If GM had developed technology like Microsoft, we would all be 
>  driving cars with the following characteristics: 
>  1. For no reason whatsoever your car would crash twice a day. 
>  2. Every time they repainted the lines on the road you would have 
>     to buy a new car. 
>  3. Occasionally your car would die on the freeway for no reason, 
>     and you would just accept this, restart and drive on. 
>  4. Occasionally, executing a maneuver such as a left turn, would 
>     cause your car to shut down and refuse to restart, in which 
>     case you would have to reinstall the engine. 
>  5. Only one person at a time could use the car, unless you bought 
>     "Car95" or "CarNT". But then you would have to buy more seats. 
>  6. Macintosh would make a car that was powered by the sun, 
>     reliable, five times as fast, and twice as easy to drive, but 
>     would only work on five percent of the roads. 
>  7. The oil, water temperature and alternator warning lights would 
>     be replaced by a single "general car default" warning light. 
>  8. New seats would force everyone to have the same size butt. 
>  9. The airbag system would say "Are you sure?" before going off. 
>  10. Occasionally for no reason whatsoever, your car would lock 
>      you out and refuse to let you in until you simultaneously 
>      lifted the door handle, turned the key, and grab hold of the 
>      radio antenna. 
>  11. GM would require all car buyers to also purchase a deluxe 
>      set of Rand McNally road maps (now a GM subsidiary), even 
>      though they neither need them nor want them. Attempting to 
>      delete this option would immediately cause the car's 
>      performance to diminish by 50% or more. Moreover, GM would 
>      become a target for investigation by the Justice Department. 
>  12. Every time GM introduced a new model car buyers would have 
>      to learn to drive all over again because none of the controls 
>      would operate in the same manner as the old car. 
>  13. You'd press the "start" button to shut off the engine. 
> 
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>E-mail  : dturinaATnospamgeocities.com 
>Homepage: http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Forum/1377 
> 
> 
> 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:13:26 -0700 
From: "foster" <mytime2ATnospamemail.msn.com> 
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Female problems 
Message-ID: <000901bdd1d5$a00a22e0$aa49fdd0ATnospamvucqpqlj>
 
I have a problem I wish to share 
Being female.....no it's not todo with my hair 
I am having a menstrual cycle flair.
 
2 weeks early and 12 days I bled, bled, and bled 
I went to the doctor and the doctor said, 
"those hormones are knocking your head".
 
2 weeks later, I had another. 
I put a call thru to my mother, 
"You have a problem, oh what a bother!" (visual rhyme here)
 
Now, I'm thinking...this could be Kundalini 
if it is, it's a wing dingie 
In the shower, I singie,
 
"if you've had this experience, please e-mail me back 
before I have another attack 
and then I can rest much better in the sack."
 
Thanks in advance for experiences you share 
(I'll talk to you later about my hair) 
I wouldn't ask, but I know you care.
 
Love, Julie.
 
Ps.  Please excuse my rhyme, I didn't edit 
 But if you like, I'll take the credit. 
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1998 09:34:36 PDT 
From: "Hudson Jackson II" <hjackson2ATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Ego 
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>>17. .: They believed the serpent. 
>>18. .: They believed a lie. 
>    The Serpent did not lie..  
>  We never left Eden.. unconditional love does not reject. 
>                http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/spirit/eden.htm  
 
So, then, why did Adam and Eve get banished from the garden?  What's  
your take?
 
Peace,
 
 
- Hudson
 
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