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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #586


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 586

Today's Topics:
  Re: More talk about the swirling fun [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: Kundalini Yoga? [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ]
  swirling [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: owwwwwwwie! [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  RE: Kundalini Yoga? [ kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira K ]
  Re: Kundalini Yoga? [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
  change [ "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.c ]
  A. Bailey [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Re: A. Bailey [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
  cosmic Christ [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  purity (was RE: More talk about the [ kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira K ]
  Re: A. Bailey an' Company [ dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal) ]
  Re: A. Bailey an' Company [ "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: A. Bailey [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
  It's My Party And I'll Smile If I Wa [ Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich ]
  Re: A. Bailey an' Company [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
  Re: A. Bailey [ onarresATnospaminreach.com ]
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:23:34 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: More talk about the swirling funnel.
Message-ID: <19980824152334.1857.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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A note on Alice Bailey;

If you get deep enough into any of the modern day 'mystery schools',
at least those of the 'Theosophical/Hierarchical' variety, you will
learn that you are supposed to submit your will and your body to
a group of entities of dubious spirituality.

If you keep pushing for 20 years like I did, you will find
(at least I did) that all this energy directed at 'the hierarchy'
or 'shamballa' or 'the masters' is really going to feed this
bloated serpent entity, that has been trying to impersonate god
for millenia.

Am I saying that 'Kundalini' or 'mysticism' is wrong ? Not at all.

Kundalini is the path home.

Once you encounter the creative intelligence of the earth, that
flows along the first chakra prana streams (i.e Kundalini) you
don't need flakey pseudo-religions of men.

Quiet your mind, align your intent, and become a warrior of
correct action.

This whole multi-level marketing spiritualtiy is a cruel delusion
to ensnare those who wander from the path.

(in my experience).

As regards 'levels of kundalini awakening' -- do not be deceived
by the phenomenon of awakening -- if you are already pretty open
and pure, and your intent is clear, you could 'awaken' kundalini
and not notice all that much!

its the resistance that gives most of the sensations.

True, the feeling of 'flow' will be present at times, but that
feeling will mainly be present when there is a difference in
potential between parts of the body.

Lots of energy is constantly flowing through us, and we just don't
usually notice it.

On the other hand, a common delusion, is that when you 'try' to feel
the flow, that is the only time its flowing -- not at all true --
when you calm your mind/body so that you can 'feel the flow' you
are creating a potential mis-match, thus causing more flow

Insofar as purity being 1/2 of the path -- I'd agree, if not more!

One kind of purity that is often overlooked, is 'thought form purity'.
There are all these energetic forms we hold in our auras, to comfort
us, and to 'protect us from the cruel world' - these forms will
become bloated by the increased flow, and cause mental and emotional
problems.

All dirty laundry should be taken out, by surrender to purity,
the will must be sharpened, and the razor path must be walked if
you want to proceed 'all the way'.

Most 'new agers' don't understand that the path of the spirit
must frequently walk through the land of the dead -- all that is
impure will be burned away -- including our most cherished
delusions -- even including the delusion of being separate beings.

The way of it though, is that 'god' won't force himself on us
in any way -- you must offer yourself up to Kundalini if you want
to progress. Most people don't progress as far as they want to,
because they don't ask, then wait. In their excitement, they take
action themselves -- it doesn't work that way -- there is another
non-human intelligence at work here, you must wait on divinity.

Insofar as to whether there are 'grades of attainment' past
kundalini reaching the crown ? That 'attainment' is merely the
beginning ... in truth, the flow from earth to sky and from sky
to earth used to be 'natural' for all humans. Its not some
big deal.

The question is not whether we can get a flow out our crown once,
its whether we can align our intent to be a continuous conduit
day and night forever. That is the true 'first step'.

Take that step, and you won't need to ask what's next! - its
different for every person.

Love to my brothers and sisters on the path,

Kevin

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>Jan and others,
> I often have the crawling ants on the top of the head sensation
and
>the "ringing of the spheres" type sound is always with me, but I know
>that there is more. Gabriel Cousins discusses the swirling funnel in
the
>crown sensation in his book "Spiritual Nutrition and the Rainbow Diet".
>It has a very good account of a k awakening. He discusses the k as
>having three "knots". The base(the initial awakening), the heart(when
>the heart opens), and the third eye/crown opening. The swirling
funnel
>started for him sometime after the third opening and became constant
>after a 40 day fast.
>
> Over half of the journey is a question of purity. The goal being
>to remove any resistance held in the mental, emotional, and spiritual
>bodies. I would say the second most important part is a will to push
>forward to the next level. This seems to stop so many people.
Thirdly,
>vitality is important. That is why when k awakens at an early age
people
>often have miraculous powers.
>
> Many systems are self limiting. Like in Enochian magic the limit
is
>the first aethyr, you can't go beyond that in that system. In Buddhism
>you have "arrived" when you become a buddha. That is why I like Alice
>Bailey. The achievable goal is much higher. My point is, I don't
think
>that an awakened k expressing herself though the crown is the final
goal.
> At the very least, there must be many levels of this. I would
>appreciate any info in that direction.
>
>
>Blessings to all,
>
>
>Geoffrey
>
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:53:43 +0200
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
Message-Id: <199808241656.RAA02175ATnospamumbukta.monet.no>

----------
* Wonderer,
> Yoga, for me, is
> many different techniques that work better for me at different times,
> to keep me conscious of my ultimate goal, desire, reality.
 
I think the name for it is Tantra. While Yoga is the masculine,
discipline-focused way - Tantra is the feminine, soft way. Tantra use
different methods at different times, according to the different needs in
these Sea of Complexity and relativity.

Blessings from Norway
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:10:53 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: swirling
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One dancer,
one swordsman,

playing swirls of life.

brought to life
by bliss born
of wisdom
and compassion,

she hears music
that makes her spin
right.

Straight on,
no deviation in his course
he intercepts with her,

and not fighting her
he learns to dance.

seeing a straight way
instead a meander
she learns
to shoot arrows
into hearts.

they merge
into the sitting
figure.

her swirling dance
reduced to spinning
lights

his directional
power
sending her light
to the gift
of the
night.

--janpa tsomo (who can only paint with words)

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:20:32 PDT
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, F19AshATnospamaol.com
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Sure! will do! (we have a medicine buddha puja on the 30'th)

also if i can ask for y'all to keep my husband in mind. his lower back
has an extruded disk....

thanks bunches!!

--janpa

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:30:59 -0700
From: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF)
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (kundalini-l)
Subject: RE: Kundalini Yoga?
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Yoga and tantra are not the same thing. The tantras are a specific type
of spiritual teachings in both Hindi and Buddhist traditions which couple
meditation, right behaviour and livelihood with subtle body work. The
tantras have a right and a left hand path - these could be compared to
Dionysion and Apollonian traditions.

Whatever. You can have your kundalini awaken without doing tantra - they
are not interdependant. Tantrism is derived from the tantras, which along
with the vedas and the sutras, make up the eastern teaching texts. I'm
not sure how you mean "yoga is masculine, tantra is feminine" but I think
that is not exactly an accurate picture of Hindi tradition.
I know that modern, western seekers have different meanings (sometimes to
the point of inaccuracy) about such concepts as kundalini, tantra, karma
and attachment than what is layed out in the eastern traditions. We are
borrowing from the east to describe our experiences in the west...in
translation, we can sometimes change the words to have a very different
meaning.

Example? Karma means (most literally) action - it is the force of *doing*
in our life. In the west karma can mean: culpability, vibe, ethics,
consequences, causality. The way we use the word is as people who have
been raised (many of us) in the shadow of the protestant/Puritan ethic as
manifested under the philosophy of scientific materialism. Concepts of
"karma" have a very different role in this situation than in India.

 -Kyira
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:05:23 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
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Hi Paul!

I've not checked my mail all weekend, or I would have responded
sooner to your insightful post.

I really like this quote:

"Of note, however, is that I read a while ago some phrase along the
lines of "you are not generous unless you give away something you
need more yourself".

I never thought of it that way.

Additionally, you wrote:

You can hear the degree of truth in people's voices, and in
>their faces, and in their manner. If you are sensitive to subtleties
>you know when there are shreds of deception. But I am not sure
>that such sensitivity itself is truthful because it is a way of
>experiencing the reality of things, like an interpreter, despite
>its ability to interpret those subtleties and make them tangible.

I learned in the astral plane, or bardo, or whatever it was, that
people can see your thoughts quite easily. They are displayed above
your head, in what was referred to as a "halo". It is futile to lie
there, and hard to be "gentle" with the truth. On some level, we all
remain connected to that information, and we often can sense
falsehood. This has been one of my earth lessons, since I was very
frustrated with the halo. I have learned it is better to just "fess
up", "sorry I don't like spinach soup, but you enjoy"! :-)

Cathy
Date: 24 Aug 98 18:24:24 +0000
From: "Paul" <paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: change
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Hi.

I have just changed my email address from paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
to paulwestATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk. I have also changed my "actual
name" from Paul West to just Paul. It is my hope that this may bypass
the message filtering of the people who have had good reason to reject
my garbage in the past. If you feel that you would like to continue
filtering me, and are receiving this but think you shouldn't,
then please change your filter to the new address. I am hoping,
however, that maybe some people will be a little forgiving, not that
it is perhaps deserved (is it ever?).

--
Paul.

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:16:27 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: A. Bailey
Message-ID: <35E175BB.ED46633BATnospammhonline.net>

Hi pure heart,
Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
More Light.

+ Maureen
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 11:39:22 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, morlightATnospammhonline.net
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Their rather thin and pathetic attempt to rope 'christian mystics'
into their food chain by misrepresenting the truth does not
impress me.

Their 'cosmic christ' or 'christ consciousness' is just a scam to
funnel life force into their hungry masters maw.

-Kevin

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>Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
>More Light.
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>+ Maureen
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:57:11 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: cosmic Christ
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Pure Heart ?
You're angry and have stuff to work out.
Hope you do.

More Light.

+ Maureen
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 12:31:50 -0700
From: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF)
To: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com (geoffrey33), kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (kundalini-l)
Subject: purity (was RE: More talk about the swir
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I sorta snickered at this one:
> In Buddhism you have "arrived" when you become a buddha.

It's not very easy to become a buddha. It is only in the imagination that
this goal is limiting.

Would you mind explaining what you meant by "over half the journey is a
question of purity"?

Thanks,
 -Kyira
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:10:09 -0600
From: dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: A. Bailey an' Company
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Greetin's Me Kevin, Mureen, and List folks,

If We be all One, then We be a feedin ourself ultimately,
no matter where We put our energies.

Our Eastern Sis and Bro's say this be a Maya Movie anyway.
That be a meanin' no matter what parades across our screens,
We get up an' go home afterwards.

At first, We be a siitn' up in the first row, totally absorbed in
the drama. Kundalini be a Lady usher who be a movin' us
back a few rows at a time. This be a given us a broader view
an' We be a noticin' that there be others o' us a watchin' also.

Finally We discover the door We came in through an' We
remember We be at the Dollar Movies an' there be many
Movies a happenin' at the same time.

Thanks to the K. usher We be a more understandin' aboot
our Movie an' other folks Movies.

God's Grin to Ye....

*********Ahau Akbal**********
"Curves are happens when a
      line starts having fun!"

+ Maureen
Hi pure heart,
Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
More Light.

-Kevin
Their rather thin and pathetic attempt to rope 'christian mystics'
into their food chain by misrepresenting the truth does not
impress me.

Their 'cosmic christ' or 'christ consciousness' is just a scam to
funnel life force into their hungry masters maw.

-Kevin

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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 13:32:31 PDT
From: "Pure Heart" <pure_heartATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, dax23ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: A. Bailey an' Company
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>From a certain perspective we are at the dollar movies.

However that does not relieve us of the responsibility for
correct action.

One can simply call modern life 'illusion' and sit in Samahdi
all day while children starve at your feet.

However, due to the hierarchical and holographic nature of reality,
simply 'going up one plane' will make the 'lower plane' seem less
real.

However there exists the potential for 'appopriate action' on
all planes.

The highest reality ever percieved by the most illuminated sage
is an illusion to the next higher plane.

I do not advocate 'crusading' - there has to be a trust of the flow
to take care of itself. But we are a part of that flow. At times
we will be called upon to take that correct action, or we are
in denial.

-Kevin

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>Greetin's Me Kevin, Mureen, and List folks,
>
>If We be all One, then We be a feedin ourself ultimately,
>no matter where We put our energies.
>
>Our Eastern Sis and Bro's say this be a Maya Movie anyway.
>That be a meanin' no matter what parades across our screens,
>We get up an' go home afterwards.
>
>At first, We be a siitn' up in the first row, totally absorbed in
>the drama. Kundalini be a Lady usher who be a movin' us
>back a few rows at a time. This be a given us a broader view
>an' We be a noticin' that there be others o' us a watchin' also.
>
>Finally We discover the door We came in through an' We
>remember We be at the Dollar Movies an' there be many
>Movies a happenin' at the same time.
>
>Thanks to the K. usher We be a more understandin' aboot
>our Movie an' other folks Movies.
>
>God's Grin to Ye....
>
>*********Ahau Akbal**********
>"Curves are happens when a
> line starts having fun!"
>
>+ Maureen
>Hi pure heart,
>Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
>More Light.
>
>-Kevin
>Their rather thin and pathetic attempt to rope 'christian mystics'
>into their food chain by misrepresenting the truth does not
>impress me.
>
>Their 'cosmic christ' or 'christ consciousness' is just a scam to
>funnel life force into their hungry masters maw.
>
>-Kevin
>
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Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:31:28 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
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>Hi pure heart,
>Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
>More Light.
>
>+ Maureen

Hi Maureen,

i had an in depth conversation the other day with a friend about "the
Christ". i understand that "the Christ" refers to "the Way" much as
Kundalini is "a Way" as are many other Ways.
The reality is that "Christ" comes with an association that to many is NOT
acceptable for whatever resaon.

When you say it all boils down to submitting to the Christ......
well.......probably you are correct in the technical application of the
word, Christ.......but modern reality associates Christ with Jesus......
and, i'm sure you know there are many who do not accept Jesus as "the Way".

Using the Christ to be inclusive, i think is actually quite exclusive.
Kundalini is inclusive and "says" a Way.

Just some of my thoughts on this subject which came up for me twice this week.

:))

jane
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:37:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: Andrew Alcott Shaver <ashaverATnospamumich.edu>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: It's My Party And I'll Smile If I Want To
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.95.980824163222.7596A-100000ATnospamqbert.rs.itd.umich.edu>
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Hi,
 I need a little advice from the list astrologers.
Please contact me personally so as not to waste list bandwidth.
 We're gonna' have a big party here in Ann Arbor, Michigan,
on Saturday September 5, 1998, and I just wanted to find out
what the astrological forecast was for that time and place
(I wish I could tell you our exact latitude and longitude,
but I don't know them. We are 40 miles due west of Detroit,
though, if that helps)

Thanks a bunch,
Andy
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:08:35 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, "Ahau Akbal" <dax23ATnospamjuno.com>
Subject: Re: A. Bailey an' Company
Message-ID: <000401bdcfa3$5fa35340$e35b9cd1ATnospamcathyber.TOMEN.COM>
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You have just described a very intense dream I had years ago. As I
moved closer to the front row in a "drama" I could "feel the pain and
the violence; it pummeled my body". I backed out, and the pain
diminished the closer I got to the door. I left the movie, and
noticed I was in a cinema with many types of movies, including
documentaries, and comedies, as well as dramas. I have always felt
that dream was symbolic of life.

Cathy

-----Original Message-----
From: Ahau Akbal <dax23ATnospamjuno.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Monday, August 24, 1998 3:52 PM
Subject: Re: A. Bailey an' Company

>Greetin's Me Kevin, Mureen, and List folks,
>
>If We be all One, then We be a feedin ourself ultimately,
>no matter where We put our energies.
>
>Our Eastern Sis and Bro's say this be a Maya Movie anyway.
>That be a meanin' no matter what parades across our screens,
>We get up an' go home afterwards.
>
>At first, We be a siitn' up in the first row, totally absorbed in
>the drama. Kundalini be a Lady usher who be a movin' us
>back a few rows at a time. This be a given us a broader view
>an' We be a noticin' that there be others o' us a watchin' also.
>
>Finally We discover the door We came in through an' We
>remember We be at the Dollar Movies an' there be many
>Movies a happenin' at the same time.
>
>Thanks to the K. usher We be a more understandin' aboot
>our Movie an' other folks Movies.
>
>God's Grin to Ye....
>
>*********Ahau Akbal**********
>"Curves are happens when a
> line starts having fun!"
>
>+ Maureen
>Hi pure heart,
>Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
>More Light.
>
>-Kevin
>Their rather thin and pathetic attempt to rope 'christian mystics'
>into their food chain by misrepresenting the truth does not
>impress me.
>
>Their 'cosmic christ' or 'christ consciousness' is just a scam to
>funnel life force into their hungry masters maw.
>
>-Kevin
>
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_
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>
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:25:38 -0700
From: onarresATnospaminreach.com
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>, morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: A. Bailey
Message-Id: <3.0.3.32.19980824142538.006ee244ATnospammail.inreach.com>
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K list,

The man which is often referred to as Jesus Christ would not be correct...
Jesus was the man and the Christ path is the path he followed, but so did
many others follow the same path. Just a thought, I am sure that many could
elaborate on this further. blessings dor

At 04:31 PM 8/24/98 -0500, jane wrote:
>>Hi pure heart, Thought it all boiled down to submitting to the Christ.
>>More Light. + Maureen
>
>Hi Maureen,
>
>i had an in depth conversation the other day with a friend about "the
Christ". i understand that "the Christ" refers to "the Way" much as
Kundalini is "a Way" as are many other Ways. The reality is that "Christ"
comes with an association that to many is NOT acceptable for whatever resaon.
>
>When you say it all boils down to submitting to the Christ... well...
probably you are correct in the technical application of the word,
Christ...but modern reality associates Christ with Jesus...
>and, i'm sure you know there are many who do not accept Jesus as "the Way".
>

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