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1998/08/21 04:58
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #578


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 578

Today's Topics:
  Re: Follow up to personal experience [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: negativity [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: try again.... [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Bouncing? (ATTN Mystress) [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Kundalini Yoga? [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  There comes a time... [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  unsubscribe me please [ "James B" <akron23ATnospamhotmail.com> ]
  Re: Aura [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ]
  Re: Re: Follow up to personal experi [ geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com ]
  Fwd: Personal experiences [ DruoutATnospamaol.com ]
  Follow up to personal experiences [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Immortality [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: Immortality [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Shock , can it be a good thing? [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: digest Kundalini [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ]
  Re: Immortality [ "Carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca> ]
  Corrected. Punctuation? [ trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) ]
  RE: digest Kundalini [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ]
  Re: Shock , can it be a good thing? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  kundalini??? [ "alex,arie&janet" <arieATnospamihug.co.nz> ]
  Re: Shock , can it be a good thing? [ LANDLIIATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Re: try again.... [ LadyOStarsATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:10:59 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Follow up to personal experiences
Message-ID: <5679a354.35dc9ef4ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 8/20/98 4:09:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com writes:

<< I have been encouraged by someone to say that I have wisdom have I
 learned from my experiences.

You can get wisdom from experiences? Maybe common sense, maybe good
judgement, but wisdom.... hmmmm... Maybe I am misunderstanding. Please share
your experiences that have created wisdom.

 >More than anything, a profound sense of peace and deep contentment. A deep
acceptance.

Since you have reached a state of mind many would like to reach, would you
share with us the steps you took to reach this state?

 >Secondly, a quiet mind without the constant chatter of thoughts.

Is this like 24 hours a day, while meditating, while watching tv, making love
or what??

>Thirdly, a non attachment to people or things.
>And fourthly, acting instead of reacting to people and events in my life.

This is good. You learn well grasshopper. Now quityer telling us how good
you are and tell us how to do it. If all you have said is True, then
demonstrate - share, teach, anything but brag. duh.

> The path is to become whole, lacking nothing.

So tell us something we don't know.

xxxtg

* Never moon a werewolf *

http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:35:16 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: negativity
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980820143516.00d0dc34ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 11:08 AM 20/08/98 PDT, janpa tsomo wrote:
>i want to apologize for being very negative lately.
>
>im not trying to depress the entire world. just feel like im trying to
>hold on sometimes to center.
>
>i think im having what you guys called 'kriyas', the wierd body
>sensations. something is working itself into me. and i keep clinging
>like Velcro to ego. this plus the rather depressing saddness sensation
>was enough to knock me off center *again*.
  Well, I know exactly how ya feel. I am having my usual intense august,
energy shifts and Karma releasing so unpredictable I have warned my slaves
to be on the lookout for my occasional transformation into "bi-polar
Woman".. our Divine Lady of PMS.. because she can be very dangerous to
their emotional wellbeing..
  I did not respond to the thread of cosmic loneliness, coz it seems odd to
me.. I have always felt myself different from folks around me. mostly coz
they told me so, when i tried to explain my world. The loneliness itself
became a familiar companion, lifelong, and as I wind along my progress it
occurs to me that this effect was to cushion me for what is to come.. I
recognised it as Goddess' own, a few years ago, and it gave me comfort of
knowing I am loved, with the limitless love of the limitlessly lonely...
Goddess was lonely, so she made Us, to have something to love. Love
requires an object..
  Such loneliness pains my heart, and so I dive into the pain, and there,
it is not.. :)
  The loneliness of Goddess, being only One.. the loneliest number.. drove
me to hide in the non-polarized compassion of Nirvana, the heart center,
where it is not felt.
  So, it serves the highest good, and has purpose.

  But when I am not there, mostly I am preoccupied with trying to catch
onto odd bits of ego, and it feels like a greased pig catching contest..
lots of mud and squealing.. a few face-plants.. but the slippery pig
remains on the loose.. and a fast runner.
>
>my teacher says (tired of hearing me say that phrase ;)?) fall down 10
>times, get up 11.
    Has your teacher ever tried to catch a greased pig? Sounds like it..
LOL!! Can't run fast enough to catch a pig, on your knees.. gotta keep
getting back on your feet.
>
>its tempting to be a wimp. but i dont think my path lies that way.
>
>--janpa
>
  Yeah, I know.. I keep getting frustrated and wondering why catch the pig?
Let it be free.. then it digs up the rosebushes and I'm back to face-plants
and squealing.. .
   Goddess said, "Come to Me"..and why send an invitation to loneliness,
eh? That's no party.. space and time don't exist, so I know I am already
there.. but there's a greased pig loose in the Garden of Eden.. whose name
is Bi-polar woman. ADD + K-flares.. Oy.
  Yet I would not trade a speck of it.. the joy is in the journey.
  Goddess has written the date of the pig sacrifice in concrete, scrawled
into the sidewalk on my corner is "Buddha '98", and the square is dated
from the 70's... How She caused it to be written there, I dunno.. but it
invokes my faith.
  So I do as I am bid, to prepare.. but trusting that if I have not caught
it by then, She will handle it Herself.
  Goddess has it Handled.. and that's good, coz the pig has seen the
vision, too.. and is not motivated to allow itself to be caught! It is out
shopping for Crisco and wire cutters...
   It helps, to remember it's a game, and the outcome is really never in
question.. and it will never be quite as one expects..

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 13:33:19 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: try again....
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980820133319.00cf0814ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

   ooohh.. poor baby.
 Paul, pray tell me why it is that you sometimes seem to get the idea you
are list moderator?
 If folks wanna talk about yoga, Kundalini yoga, spontaneous orgasms or
fuzzy white dots in their vision, if it has to do with Kundalini, I am
gonna let them.
 In case you didn't notice, you are on the "auto delete" list of a few
folks, yourself.
  If you don't like it, delete it but kindly stuff your ideas about how
other folks need to post differently, to please you, King Paul, up your ass
and rotate on it awhile, as a Tantric yoga exercise of receptivity.. :)
    Blessings, List Mystress.

At 06:29 PM 20/08/98 +0000, Paul West wrote:
>. Maybe this sounds a bit seperatist
>but I have little or no interest in yoga and things are getting a bit
>yoga oriented.
>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 15:01:59 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kyira_korriganATnospamdynapro.com (Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com (kundalini-l)
Subject: Re: Bouncing? (ATTN Mystress)
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980820150159.00d08ab0ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Welcome back, Kyira! It is delightful to see your name showing up in my
inbox again, with your thoughtful posts..
  As for the bounces, there is nothing to look into.. it is normal, on a
list this size for one or two members to have a full mailbox at any given
time, and for their list mail to be bouncing. The computer politely
apologises for being unable to reach those persons, whenever you post to
the list,... and that is a "bounce report". Delete and ignore..
  I already posted to some of these concerned folks in private, to reassure
them,..
  I don't unsub these folks, coz usually problems are temporary.. but the
list computer does, if it thinks they are permanent. So it is that some
folks find themselves unsubscribed if their server has problems.

At 01:43 PM 20/08/98 -0700, Kyira Korrigan - DTI,MF wrote:
>
>Several people have posted duplicate messages in the last few days saying
>they received a bounced message back after the first sending.
>I've also received a bounced notice after every posting I've made, even
>though the posts still go to the list.
>
>Mystress, can you look in to this?
>
> -Kyira
Date: 20 Aug 98 23:00:02 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini Yoga?
Message-Id: <OUT-35DCAA72.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

> Paul, why does discussion of Yoga seem so off topic to you?
>
> Pardon me, as I am obviously Clueless???

Please continue to discuss yoga and anything to your hearts content.
You are so beautiful I don't think anything you do could be wrong.

;-)

I shouldn't have been so harsh. It was strange but I had a very deep
dream this morning in which I had a false awakening. I thought this
meant something had gone terribly wrong. But without really going
anywhere everything is just fine now. I was just unsure wether
somewhere there might be an advertisment for this list saying that it
was to do with yoga.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: 20 Aug 98 23:25:48 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: There comes a time...
Message-Id: <OUT-35DCAFDF.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hello K'ers.

I think I should explain why I've been ratty the past few days. When
the week began it was quickly evident that it was going to be a big
one. Day before yesterday my dad came and talked to me for an hour and
a half and I kind of opened up more than I had before. We talked of my
independence, or lack of it, and I voiced some complaints about my mum
and the way she was mothering me too much. I guess some things were
affirmed while others were released, but importantly I started to
assert myself. Never really been very good at assertion.

So the whole relationship with my family is up in the air right now
and there are big talks of radically transforming the way that the
household is run, taking away authority figures and working as a team,
being more selfless and putting in more effort. It's unheard of in
times gone by but suddenly it's all happening at once.

In amongst other dreams yesterday morning I was in a black place and
there was nothing there and a voice said to me, in my own voice, "you
have independence now". It was truly a statement after the fact. The
deed had been done. The psychological connection to and dependency
upon my parents has just been severed, split, permanently. The way
they appear to me now does not ever overstep the line that has been
clearly defined, thank God.

A lot of stuff is coming into my awareness very quickly and it was
with an aftertaste of a whole heap of this stuff coming to me in
dreams this morning that I moaned about kundalini yoga. For once I CAN
believe that it has finally happened. It's me facing stuff now rather
than via third parties. So I thought that the first step should be to
apologise for my undue and uncalled-for irrationality and blindness.
There is much turmoil and k is almost constantly doing something. I
think I would like to and benefit from learning some yoga soon.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 16:46:38 PDT
From: "James B" <akron23ATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: unsubscribe me please
Message-ID: <19980820234639.10011.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 18:44:50 +0500
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
To: TAvalon <TAvalonATnospamtexas.net>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Aura
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980820184450.0068d8c8ATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in>
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Dear Terri Avalon:

We find something rare aura of your husband. Aura shows he is healthy
having uniform aura of about 5 inches. But besides vitreous humor, aqueous
humor and the optic nerve,show an increased aura of 8 inches.
Please inform more about your husband - i.e. whether pretty
visuals,lights.and floating things obstruct his vision and he feels
difficulty in seeing? What was/is nature of his job? Whether his father
also experienced such vision? We will prefer copy of his medical report.
With regards,
Ms. Seema,
1st year student Psychology,
Reiki Master and
Disciple of one who senses aura and cures incurable and chronic dis-eases
with the help of Cosmic Beam Therapy
-------------------------------
At 12:02 PM 8/19/98 -0500, you wrote:
Hi all,
About 6 months ago my husband started talking about the pretty visuals,
lights and floating things he was seeing, even in the daylight. When he
mentioned the flashing lights I put on my nursing hat and took his
bootie to an opthomologist since what he was describing could be retinal
detachment. It turns out he was experiencing vitreous humor detachment
which the opthomologist said happens to us all as we age but some people
notice the effects more.
>
So there may be a physical explanation in some cases though I don't
>think it diminishes the kundalini influences at all.
Blessed Be, Terri Avalon
>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 19:30:36 -0700
From: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: Follow up to personal experiences
Message-ID: <19980820.193037.3262.0.Geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com>

>You can get wisdom from experiences? Maybe common sense, maybe good
judgement, but wisdom.... hmmmm... Maybe I am misunderstanding. Please
share
your experiences that have created wisdom.

It is a state change. The experience brings about a different way of
being.

 >Since you have reached a state of mind many would like to reach, would
you
share with us the steps you took to reach this state?

My first letter was my attempt to answer this question. I refer you to
"The Path to
No Self" for an in depth personal account. My experience with this book,
however,
is that it is only helpful for those going through the "Dark night of the
Spirit"
or the 4th initiation(and maybe beyond) in Alice Bailey terms.
  

>Is this like 24 hours a day, while meditating, while watching tv, making
love
or what??

Yes while meditating, yes while watching tv,yes while making love - no,
not 24 hours a day.
 I was not willing to give up sex and as a result cultivated sexual
thoughts. That is why I'm
doing another Vippassana, I now feel ready to give up sex(almost, we'll
see what happens).
I will often have half a day without a thought.

>>>Thirdly, a non attachment to people or things.
>>>And fourthly, acting instead of reacting to people and events in my
life.

>This is good. You learn well grasshopper. Now quityer telling us how
good
you are and tell us how to do it. If all you have said is True, then
demonstrate - share, teach, anything but brag. duh.

I do find that there is nothing material that I want. I don't have much
but if I long for
anything it would be to have even less. I have shared my experiences as
honestly
as I can. I don't see my self as a teacher beyond sharing the things
that I found
valuable. If you have perceived me as bragging, that was not my
intention.

>>> The path is to become whole, lacking nothing.

>So tell us something we don't know.

The journey can't be transferred by words, it must be lived. You must
eat the food
of experience before you will be nourished.

I don't mean to sound like I have arrived. I am still looking over the
next hill. Each of
us enters this life at a different place in evolution. It is not
important how we are
doing compared to others. I want to maximize my own progress and help
those
that ask.

Geoffrey


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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 20:53:14 EDT
From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Fwd: Personal experiences
Message-ID: <15aec9a0.35dcc4fcATnospamaol.com>
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In a message dated 98-08-20 14:19:53 EDT, Druout writes:

<< In a message dated 98-08-20 13:23:07 EDT, you write:
 
 << these kundalini chills would
  rise up my spine to my brain every 4 to 10 seconds whenever I would
  meditate. After an hour of this my brain would just glow. This went on
  for about three days until a pathway was completed for the energy. I
  experienced the "nectar" taste when I touched my tongue to the roof of
  my mouth. >>
 
 Dear Geoffrey,
 
 Welcome! And thanks for the descriptions. They are very helpful to me.
 
 Love, Hillary >>

From: DruoutATnospamaol.com
Return-path: <DruoutATnospamaol.com>
To: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Re: Personal experiences
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 14:19:53 EDT

In a message dated 98-08-20 13:23:07 EDT, you write:

<< these kundalini chills would
 rise up my spine to my brain every 4 to 10 seconds whenever I would
 meditate. After an hour of this my brain would just glow. This went on
 for about three days until a pathway was completed for the energy. I
 experienced the "nectar" taste when I touched my tongue to the roof of
 my mouth. >>

Dear Geoffrey,

Welcome! And thanks for the descriptions. They are very helpful to me.

Love, Hillary
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 21:28:33 EDT
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Cc: geoffrey33ATnospamjuno.com
Subject: Follow up to personal experiences
Message-ID: <2c9ffba9.35dccd42ATnospamaol.com>

Thanks Geoffrey for your responses.... You did well in handling the
questions.

Glad you are here,

Love,
xxxtg

*Teacher: If you don't understand this, then I can't explain it to you.
*Student: I think I understand.
*Teacher: Good. So now I don't need to explain.

http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:33:32 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Immortality
Message-ID: <35DCDC7C.5E88FBDBATnospammail.snet.net>

Dave08812ATnospamaol.com wrote:

> Dear David,
>
> Immortality may not be a bad thing for some aspirants of the
> spiritual path.

I'd say Immortality is always intact. It's insane to believe otherwise.

> Many yogis die before they have completed their dharma or way. Many of us,
> myself
> included, need to be long lived in order to get it right finally.

Well, to get it Right you'd have to die, no?

> The serious
> problem is that when one is born again, one has to go through all the hassles
> all over again to get back on the path.

I look at this way. We are all manifesting the same Soul.

> Live long and prosper.

I intend to.

I'll just add what spooked me was empathetically connecting to the fear of death.
It's quite insane and dark. But it has been a cleansing process.
In deep meditative states I occasionally reach a point where it seems if I
completely
let go I will die. Quite literally a bodily death. If one is *completely* detached
one will
transcend the world. So even though I say I do not fear Death, one might say that
confidence is not complete as long as one chooses to play in a world of duality,
for
one who experiences world, experiences it by *choice*.

Great Blessings,
David
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:47:49 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Immortality
Message-ID: <35DCDFD4.AAD02F9ATnospammail.snet.net>

LANDLIIATnospamaol.com wrote:

> I am not sure where the genetic tech will lead

They are working on engineering a way to alter the genetic code so that your all
your cells willreplicate indefinitely. The problem lies in the fact that this
also creates an increased probability
for haywire growth(cancer). Whether this is actually possible (my intuition
seems to think it is)
wasn't my issue. It was connecting to the fear that drives this quest. Perhaps
extra terrestrial
life forms have accomplished this. Perhaps this fear driven project will be
transformed like
all things of time and space by Spirit and be used for the purpose of Healing.
That is,
as Dave suggested, people will have more time to grow spiritually. (shrug) I
don't know.
I know this. Nature loves Her Balance. Screw with that balance too much and She
shakes
you off like fleas. In a world approaching an overpopulated status what might
such tinkering
with life spans yield? (other planets?)

I suspect it's been done. It *is* an awfully big universe.

> but I think the aging process
> is slowed down when one becomes unaware that they are supposed to age.

Perhaps. Those with child like minds do appear to glow with youth, no?

Take Care,
David
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 22:51:32 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Shock , can it be a good thing?
Message-ID: <000001bdccae$bedbe5e0$3be6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
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Hi All,

Anyone that is really senstive to negetive vibrations press delete....

Okay now that is out of the way I am in a lot of trouble right now. I feel
like my whole system is going into shock. I am falling down and this time I
am not sure I can get back up. Just to much is happening. Can anyone do a
posting that will help to send positve vibrations to me? I can't talk about
what is hurting me so badly but I hope someone can help.

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:08:48 -0400
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: digest Kundalini
Message-ID: <01bdccb1$03f4e260$3621afcfATnospamhp-customer>
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 charset="iso-8859-1"

-----Original Message-----
From: HealingLitATnospamaol.com <HealingLitATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Date: Thursday, August 20, 1998 11:01 AM
Subject: digest Kundalini

>digest Kundalini

sometimes you digest the kundalini, sometimes the kundalini digests you

Blessings,
     Rick
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:14:32 -0400
From: "Carrea" <carreaATnospamvideotron.ca>
To: "David Bozzi" <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Immortality
Message-ID: <01bdccb1$d14241e0$e88560cfATnospamconcentric>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

>I'll just add what spooked me was empathetically connecting to the fear of
death.
>It's quite insane and dark. But it has been a cleansing process.
>In deep meditative states I occasionally reach a point where it seems if I
>completely
>let go I will die. Quite literally a bodily death. If one is *completely*
detached
>one will
>transcend the world. So even though I say I do not fear Death, one might
say that
>confidence is not complete as long as one chooses to play in a world of
duality,
>for
>one who experiences world, experiences it by *choice*.
>
>Great Blessings,
>David

I love your mind David,

Would you not say that each time you push, to that point where it seems "if
you completely let go you will die", that when you come back, - the next
time you will try it -, a greater part of you body could die, will be abble
to die, in the next attempt.

Some are said to have their body burn into ashes from pushing this game to
it's razor edge. Others call it evolution of the species. Others did come
back...

You must love the world very deeply David, to feel you can explore those
limits, i admire that in you.

Antoine
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:40:05 -0400
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Corrected. Punctuation?
Message-ID: <19980820.234007.9230.0.trexisATnospamjuno.com>

I was musing upon staements made by MAS and Paul West concerning time.
I realized that I'd been misunderstanding this certain saying all along
because I hadn't the correct punctuation. It wasn't one sentence. It
was two.

"There's no time. Like the present."

Much better!

EG

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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 06:02:14 +0100
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: RE: digest Kundalini
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Rick wrote:
 >digest Kundalini
>
>
> sometimes you digest the kundalini, sometimes the kundalini digests you
>
> Blessings,
> Rick

Jan: Good appetite to both of you [:>)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 23:06:05 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Shock , can it be a good thing?
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 Hiya Kat:
   The old makes way for the new.. changes are always stressful to humans,
but Goddess always has our highest good in mind, even if it feels like root
canal, in the moment..
  Hang onto your faith, sometimes K. can be a wild ride..
    Blessings sent back thru time.. Mystress.

At 10:51 PM 20/08/98 -0400, Kat wrote:
>Hi All,
>
>Anyone that is really senstive to negetive vibrations press delete....
>
>Okay now that is out of the way I am in a lot of trouble right now. I feel
>like my whole system is going into shock. I am falling down and this time I
>am not sure I can get back up. Just to much is happening. Can anyone do a
>posting that will help to send positve vibrations to me? I can't talk about
>what is hurting me so badly but I hope someone can help.
>
>In L&L & Understanding,
>
>Katharine
>
>
>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 18:50:55 +1200
From: "alex,arie&janet" <arieATnospamihug.co.nz>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: kundalini???
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Hi I'm Alex and I'm new to this mailing list.....I'm wondering how do I know
whether my kundalini has awaken or not.....all I know is that I have
experience some of the sings and someone has activate my cakra 3 years
ago.....Sometime I wake up during my sleep but I can't move my body then
either I saw something or hear rigging sound, but I cannot control any of
this.....
Can someone tell whether my kundalini has awaken or not?
If not what is the best way to awaken it or can actually someone do it for
me? And how do I take control of this things that happening so I can use it
for something good instead of meaning nothing?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 03:57:51 EDT
From: LANDLIIATnospamaol.com
To: KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Shock , can it be a good thing?
Message-ID: <57d2d712.35dd2880ATnospamaol.com>

Dear Katharine,
Sending,
Allow and It Will Be...

Perhaps you are just feeling the increased vibration of the Earth and Your
Self...
Letting go of whatever is holding you back will help. The Universe would never
give you more than you can do, KNOW THIS AND THAT YOU ARE LOVED AND SAFE!

Love AND LIght,
Karlee
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1998 07:33:59 EDT
From: LadyOStarsATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: try again....
Message-ID: <c50786ac.35dd5b28ATnospamaol.com>

Sorry if i confused people with my use of the word
"Yoga" I was not using it to refer to the physical exercises
usually associated with the term... but may more acurately
meaning "union"... or the meditation aspect of Yoga...

which is present in all cultures, not just Hindu....

= )
LadyOStars

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