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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #573


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 573

Today's Topics:
  Re: out of body question [ dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal) ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Casey Robb <caseyATnospamnet.big-river.sk. ]
  Re: :)))) [ esther steinacher <esther.steinache ]
  Re: out of body question [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Kundalini-Hello of a New member [ OneBeingATnospamt-online.de (Dancing DaxAn ]
  Response and new question [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
  Re: Response and new question [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  response [ jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com> ]
  Awareness [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Re: Response and new question [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  Re: Possibly off subject, but I am n [ "hc19436ATnospamautovia" <hc19436ATnospamautovia. ]
  Re: feeling kinda crazy [ GISLENNEATnospamaol.com ]
  Bubbles & Sadness [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  Re: Kundalini-Hello of a New member [ "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Ravin <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my> ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "hc19436ATnospamautovia" <hc19436ATnospamautovia. ]
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 00:50:27 EDT
From: dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal)
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: out of body question
Message-ID: <19980817.231457.7726.0.dax23ATnospamjuno.com>

Greetin's,

Tis me experience that kundalini movements are related to
spiritual/psychological states of consciousness. What be a
triggering the experience could be what ye be a missin' in ye
attempts to have the experience once again. On ye first
try at a startin' it again ye must have came close to the state
of mind that triggered the first experience. After that ye focus
of attention could have been more on the phenomina than the
source of it. This be me guess here.

God's Grin to ye all,

Ahau Akbal
DIVINE ORDER OF FOOLS UM

Previous missive:
>Since this, I have tried repeatedly to experience something
>beyond the vibrations etc, but I have had no luck. Plus, it
>seems that the vibrations are getting weaker when I try it.
>Does anyone have an explination why, even when i am very
>willing and have no fear, that nothing happens? Why are the >vibrations
diminishing? Once again, thank you for any
>response.
>Love and light, blessed be!
>Emily ("M")

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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 19:26:33 -1000 (HST)
From: Casey Robb <caseyATnospamnet.big-river.sk.ca>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199808180526.TAA21624ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hello,

I have a female friend, age 40, who has a boyfriend, age 31, and this
boy friend has been experiencing kundalini-like symptoms since they
began their sexual relationship, about 10 months ago. He is not entirely
comfortable with these (heat, tingling sensations) as they interfere
with his sleep.

Both people are relatively uninformed about kundalini (as am I) and
are somewhat concerned. At the same time, they are exploring sexual
arenas that, from the little I have read on the topic, may be ill
advised (lets just say Tantric type stuff and withholding of the male
orgasm).

Can anyone give a general advice or guidline in this situation? Could it
be dangerous in any way? What would be an appropriate course of action?
Any thoughts?

Thanks,
Casey Robb
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 18:31:13 +0500
From: esther steinacher <esther.steinacherATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: :))))
Message-ID: <35D98221.6CC7ATnospamxtra.co.nz>

Wellcome Jane, all kindred
     love to ALL
    Earle
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1998 22:26:11 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: dax23ATnospamjuno.com (Ahau Akbal)
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: out of body question
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980817222611.00bca3f4ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 12:50 AM 18/08/98 EDT, Ahau Akbal wrote:
>Greetin's,
>
>Tis me experience that kundalini movements are related to
>spiritual/psychological states of consciousness.
>God's Grin to ye all,
>
> Ahau Akbal
>DIVINE ORDER OF FOOLS UM
    aye, yes.. the bliss of nature, music, song, and beauty... Pray tell,
Sir, what be this Order Of Fools? I am a card carrying member of the
"Lettuce Be Fools Of: Society."

>Previous missive:
>>Since this, I have tried repeatedly to experience something
>>beyond the vibrations etc, but I have had no luck. Plus, it
>>seems that the vibrations are getting weaker when I try it.
  Probably coz their work is done. The vibrations are from the K. flowing
bumpy over blockages, like the rattle of old plumbing. A rocky stream, not
a smooth flowing river. Fewer blockages, fewer vibrations. Don't worry,
they'll come back when you go into the next series of clearings.. or
possibly some other new symptom will occur, instead. WE are all unique.
     Blessings, Mystress. .
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:38:49 -0700
From: OneBeingATnospamt-online.de (Dancing DaxAne)
To: Kundalini List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Kundalini-Hello of a New member
Message-ID: <35D9CA39.7C8BD7A7ATnospamt-online.de>

Warm HelloHugs to all of you!

My innernetname is Ane (pronounced like On-ee) or SylviaSilverwings. I
am a 46 year old female living in the Bavarian Forest in South Germany.

I start introducing me to you by telling you about how I came to this
list. I was on one of the Spiritweb mailinglists and wanted to
unsubscribe from there. I tried it in the usual way and it did not work
... Smile ... I am still on that list without being subscribed any more.
And what happened? A website was introduced with this Kundalini List
on! It is exactly what I have always looked for and I right away had a
feeling of the strong, lovelightfilled groupenergy that this list has.

My kundalini was awakened by my first master when I was 28 years old,
after having meditated for about two years as a preparation. Later I
spent a few years in his ashram, doing a lot of kundalini meditations.
For a long time I had all kinds of experiences, pleasant and unpleasant
ones, that an awakened kundalini is bringing about. I was bathing in
bliss, was not breathing for many hours, lost the feeling for time and
felt to be beyond it, had the feeling that the walls in my room are not
solid and that I am living in truth in another reality, feeling
lightbeings around me, having sudden movements during meditation and
having nights with no sleep and only a kind of blisslightresting. I did
not follow my inner impulses, like the sudden desire to have a long walk
in the forest, or the guidance of my master, like dancing when you feel
for it ect, and so the day came when I felt that I right away have to
leave the ashram and change my life.
I then went through a hard time. I was faced with many of my separation
patterns and also had some of emotional and mental imbalancedness. My
master then guided me to meet another master, and through him I learned
more about divine love, the one great force that is healing and
stabilizing ...
What then followed was a time of exploring other groups, reading a lot,
meeting new people on the internet and expanding. It was a time of
learning to follow my inner guidance, being my own master and seeing
divinity expressed everywhere. I am now feeling "at home" with the
kundalini. I would say that it is reawakened, but probably it never
slept during those years of transformation and I just felt as if it did
because I was integrating areas in myself that I had not looked upon.

I am ending this mail by telling you a snakedream that I have had before
the time in my life came when I started to feel "at home" with the
kundalini.
I dreamt of bathing at night in a lake. It was dark and I was afraid a
little bit of the unknown depth of this lake. Then suddenly a big snake
came to the surface of the water. I was afraid a lot. It touched my skin
and to my surprise it did not do anything terrible with me. I then tried
to reach the shore. When I had reached the shore I looked down into the
depth of the lake, wanting to see the snake. There was no snake ... and
there was no dark frightening depth. A white light was radiating from my
third eye and I was able to look to the ground of the lake. The ground
had wonderful coloured patterns and the water was lightfilled and
clear.... The big snake, that I had feared so much, had "entered" me and
had brought me the light ...

lightfilled lovegreetings from Ane
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:32:14 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Response and new question
Message-Id: <v03020911b1ff136cd264ATnospam[209.86.20.222]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hello Brandon, Anurag et al,

> Brandon wrote:
>

>> Second, I was wondering what is the average age of people becoming
>> interested in this.

i dont think there is a set time given the fact that everyone is at
different places of the spiritual spectrum. All i can offer you is my
experience but not speak for any masses. i have deep spirit connection
memories and actions going back to when i was 6. i didnt know i was
"interested" in "it".....what i was aware of (it's hard to translate such
awesome things into mere English words) was just the depth, the being, the
doing, the connection.......so i continued to do. Maybe what i'm saying
is that even then it was a visceral following as opposed to a conscious or
intellectual pursuit. Or it may have been an integrated response that i
had developed already. i dont know. i just know what was.

>> Another thing, pertains to the previous paragraph. Is it odd for
>>someone
>> to become aware of spirituality at a young age, does it happen often, and
>> is there anything I should be concerned about?

i have gone thru periods of tremendous fear of "this" energy, power,
awareness. i have been blessed with many spirit guides from human to
animal to nature. The fear has subsided in most of me yet i continue to
honor it's presence in me and simply keep growing and facing.

>Anurag:

>You know one of my PUJYA GURUDEV is younger than me.It's good as soon as
>one become aware of spirituality but at the same time enjoy normal life
>too..

Anurag....

You have raised a question i am facing at this time. What did you mean by
"normal life"?? ::laughing:: What is "normal" to me is out there to
another...and what is normal to my neighbor is not anything i am drawn to.
Maybe "the norm" is the challenge. How does one fit (who is led thru
spirit) with "the norm", led by other things in conversation and action?
i would love to hear people's experiences with this. See.... i fit in
here, for example...... i love the collective soul of this group. i enjoy
it here . i enjoy the energy of the connection. In the world at large
there are places i enjoy but they are limited.

Other comments and experiences?

:)

just jane
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 16:41:24 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
cc: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Response and new question
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980818163556.7701A-100000ATnospamBhaskara>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

>
> >Anurag:
>
> >You know one of my PUJYA GURUDEV is younger than me.It's good as soon as
> >one become aware of spirituality but at the same time enjoy normal life
> >too..
>
> Anurag....
>
> You have raised a question i am facing at this time. What did you mean by
> "normal life"?? ::laughing:: What is "normal" to me is out there to
> another...and what is normal to my neighbor is not anything i am drawn to.
> Maybe "the norm" is the challenge.

yes normal is a challenge. The life after involvement in spirituality
changes and i was thinking it would be lot better if one behaves in the
same manner as other individuals. i mean to say that they should not be
able to figure out frm your behaviour that one is different. Am i making
sense....................

love,
Anurag

  How does one fit (who is led thru
> spirit) with "the no, led by other things in conversation and action?
> i would love to hear people's experiences with this. See.... i fit in
> here, for example...... i love the collective soul of this group. i enjoy
> it here . i enjoy the energy of the connection. In the world at large
> there are places i enjoy but they are limited.
>
> Other comments and experiences?
>
> :)
>
> just jane
>
>
>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 07:33:06 -0500
From: jane <bigeyesATnospammindspring.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: response
Message-Id: <v03020919b1ff24c3e4e3ATnospam[209.86.20.222]>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Anurag wrote:

>yes normal is a challenge. The life after involvement in spirituality
>changes and i was thinking it would be lot better if one behaves in the
>same manner as other individuals. i mean to say that they should not be
>able to figure out frm your behaviour that one is different. Am i making
>sense....................

i love how you put that... "Normal is a challenge" i think i am being
given the opportunity ti integrate some things that i havent!!!! Oh....i
exist and am very present in the life of the "norms" BUT..... i left
corporate America seven years ago and have doing a lot of diverse stuff.
i have been asked to interview back in the mainstream and part of me keeps
screaming out.... "you dont fit there anymore." Perhaps i do. i
generally go with the flow of me and what the psirits put there. i have
been fighting this one somewhat. Hmmmmmmm. Change. Growth.
i do not think i understand what you mean though as behaving the same as
those around. i mean..... what's wrong with diversity? i am drawn to
individuals. i'm not speaking of flaunting. But BEING different just
because you are seems natural.

:)thanks.

jane (ps: i keep getting two of each message from the list. Is that
normal??? LOL)
Date: 18 Aug 98 13:50:23 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Awareness
Message-Id: <OUT-35D9869F.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

As I am usually worried about not having enough awareness, I keep
striving to get more of the stuff. But it's quite alarming. So I am
wondering if that observation of not being aware is an ego thing, and
that trying to be more aware is an ego thing. So I am wondering, what
might happen if I give up trying to be more aware. Maybe I will become
less self-conscious.

Yesterday I found quite a deep peace but I wasn't really aware that I
had. I felt very lightweight like all my limbs were weightless and not
at all heavy, in fact there was practically none of the normal
sensation of what I call `matter' at all. So I wonder if this `matter'
is infact egoo manufactured by my mind. And when without restraint it
seemed that observation of things that needed to be done were
immediately without delay, and the necessary surprisingly gentle and
gracious steps taken to carry out those things just sort of `happened'
on its own like it wasn't even me doing it.

Hmm, having said that I wonder if I have taken unawareness and
accidently got it mistaken for something that's wrong, like that not
being very aware is a terrible bad thing when in fact it could be the
key. Being self-aware ain't anything good. It's a horrible state to be
in really, self-conscious all the time, paranoid about everything, at
war with everything, hyper-sensitive to everyone, and constantly
looking at myself in a state of alarm and enstartlement. So I think
"hey, I need more awareness", but that only seems to lead to the land
of egoo. I wonder what's in the other direction, that place that I
always rejected.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: 18 Aug 98 14:02:10 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Response and new question
Message-Id: <OUT-35D98962.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

> i dont think there is a set time given the fact that everyone is at
> different places of the spiritual spectrum.

What's that?

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 14:26:13 +0100
From: "hc19436ATnospamautovia" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Possibly off subject, but I am not sure.
Message-ID: <35D980F3.1C9D89E4ATnospamautovia.com>

Hi Brandon,

It is quite normal to be interested in spiritual life at a very young age. In fact it
is the norm, as many young children have (some) memories of the past live and also
often see beings on other planes of existence. In fact, the 'grown-ups' are the ones,
preventing what would be a 'normal' development, by denying these early age
experiences and making a child believe it is "all nonsense".

For me, meditation could have started at age 7 but it went otherwise. Yet my life
went into a direction that would produce a Zen type of enlightenment all by itself,
clearing all doubts forever. This happened at age 25 and after that K. did rise and
took abode in sahasrara within 6 months, where she has been staying ever since.

Anecdote:
An event at age 7 did set the scene for life. At school, the teacher taught us, God
was all mercy, but would send thunder and lightning when we dared to open our eyes
during prayer. Combining the two, I considered taking the risk would at least prove
God's existence. Much to my disappointment, nothing happened and what was worse, the
teacher was looking around also. He punished me for looking. I was furious - he had
been looking too... I went home and told the story to my father. He ran away as fast
as he could, LOL. As a result, I became a foremost atheist, "curing" everyone from
belief, even a vicar...

Jan
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 09:33:31 EDT
From: GISLENNEATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: feeling kinda crazy
Message-ID: <814d9f29.35d982acATnospamaol.com>

hi Janpa
  I too am going through the sadness during and after meditation, it is this
deep sadness....I sometimes carry it around with me the whole day, then i get
this pressurein my chest and it feels like I'm going to have a heart attack.

 I tell my guides to please take the feeling from me, the sadness ..sometimes
it is too much for me. I'll feel like I want to cry wherever I'm at.. outside,
inside, movies, amusement park...etc...the feeling just takes over and also
gets me into rotten moods and I'll snap at anyone, especially my immediate
family.

  Lately I've been seeing little tiny bubbles in my field of vision... they
are little clear bubbles, but they are coming from everywhere. Makes me feel
as though I am floating in the universe..I was in the car yesterday and all i
kept seeing were these bubbles, like tiny cells floating everywhere, so i took
off my glasses and cleaned them, thinking they were dirty.. when i put them
back on the same thing happened. So I'm sitting near my husband and I'm
looking into space like some kind of weirdo and looking through the windshield
in all directions to see if i could see them everywhere..of course I could.
Then my husband began to look to see what i was lookng at and then my kids
joined in. It was too funny. But everytime I looked at these bubbles I felt
like I was part of them.. I don't know, i cant describe the feeling.

  Sorry to get off track with what this post was about Janpa....but just
wanted to let you know that you are not alone with your feelings of sadness..
they do come and go, one day happy, one day sad and then one day happy and
sad..Sheesh!!
  
 Love and Light to you.and all......Gis
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 10:45:17 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Bubbles & Sadness
Message-ID: <000601bdcabc$30ac42e0$43e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

 Hi All,

I have seen the bubbles a few times but it hit me as interesting as I
sketched them in a painting I was doing and was completely confused to why I
had done that. I looked at this painting and became concerned that I was
going into the world of abstract which I do not want to become apart of.
When I paint I like my paintings to look like the subject that I am
painting. I guess this means that somehow I am painting what I am going
through spiritually and that it is time for me to allow this to happen more
often. The sadness that many of the group are discussing right now is also
something I am going through as well and I too am finding it overwelming.
Is this all connected? I am not going slowly nuts after all? I have been
feeling invisible lately as well. As if I am not existing. Is this all
part of it as well?

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 11:06:21 -0400
From: "Kat" <KcliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>
To: "Kundalini List" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>,
 "Dancing DaxAne" <OneBeingATnospamt-online.de>
Subject: Re: Kundalini-Hello of a New member
Message-ID: <000801bdcabc$3235f020$43e6d5d1ATnospamdefault>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Ane!

>Warm HelloHugs to all of you!
>
>My innernetname is Ane (pronounced like On-ee) or SylviaSilverwings. I
>am a 46 year old female living in the Bavarian Forest in South Germany.
>
>I start introducing me to you by telling you about how I came to this
>list. I was on one of the Spiritweb mailinglists and wanted to
>unsubscribe from there. I tried it in the usual way and it did not work
>... Smile ... I am still on that list without being subscribed any more.
>And what happened? A website was introduced with this Kundalini List
>on! It is exactly what I have always looked for and I right away had a
>feeling of the strong, lovelightfilled groupenergy that this list has.
>
>My kundalini was awakened by my first master when I was 28 years old,
>after having meditated for about two years as a preparation. Later I
>spent a few years in his ashram, doing a lot of kundalini meditations.
>For a long time I had all kinds of experiences, pleasant and unpleasant
>ones, that an awakened kundalini is bringing about. I was bathing in
>bliss, was not breathing for many hours, lost the feeling for time and
>felt to be beyond it, had the feeling that the walls in my room are not
>solid and that I am living in truth in another reality, feeling
>lightbeings around me, having sudden movements during meditation and
>having nights with no sleep and only a kind of blisslightresting. I did
>not follow my inner impulses, like the sudden desire to have a long walk
>in the forest, or the guidance of my master, like dancing when you feel
>for it ect, and so the day came when I felt that I right away have to
>leave the ashram and change my life.
>I then went through a hard time. I was faced with many of my separation
>patterns and also had some of emotional and mental imbalancedness. My
>master then guided me to meet another master, and through him I learned
>more about divine love, the one great force that is healing and
>stabilizing ...
>What then followed was a time of exploring other groups, reading a lot,
>meeting new people on the internet and expanding. It was a time of
>learning to follow my inner guidance, being my own master and seeing
>divinity expressed everywhere. I am now feeling "at home" with the
>kundalini. I would say that it is reawakened, but probably it never
>slept during those years of transformation and I just felt as if it did
>because I was integrating areas in myself that I had not looked upon.
>
>I am ending this mail by telling you a snakedream that I have had before
>the time in my life came when I started to feel "at home" with the
>kundalini.
>I dreamt of bathing at night in a lake. It was dark and I was afraid a
>little bit of the unknown depth of this lake. Then suddenly a big snake
>came to the surface of the water. I was afraid a lot. It touched my skin
>and to my surprise it did not do anything terrible with me. I then tried
>to reach the shore. When I had reached the shore I looked down into the
>depth of the lake, wanting to see the snake. There was no snake ... and
>there was no dark frightening depth. A white light was radiating from my
>third eye and I was able to look to the ground of the lake. The ground
>had wonderful coloured patterns and the water was lightfilled and
>clear.... The big snake, that I had feared so much, had "entered" me and
>had brought me the light ...

Your right this is a wonderful list! I read your snake dream with great
interest. I too had a snake dream within the past year. Unlike you however
I found a way to avoid it. Perhaps this is why things got so out of hand
for me. Now that I think of it I should of known better as the snake was
green/white. Green being the colour of healing what I have done is avoided
a healing. Stupid me! Next time I have a snake dream I will hug the snake.

Seems to me that you were guided to this list. I was checking out different
groups of light to see if I could find one where I could talk to people and
accidently came across this one. I almost didn't even subscribe but I felt
this urge to at least peek......Glad I did! Welcome to the group!

Nothing that happens is an acciendent! I am learning this is soooooo
true!!!!

In L&L & Understanding,

Katharine.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 06:10:40 -1000 (HST)
From: Ravin <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199808181610.GAA15160ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

what are the symptoms during meditation and after. I experienced the following
for the past few months and hope you friends agree and help me to understand.
severe head ache or pain in the skull / body feeling itch and like ants crawling
on your body / mood change for no apprent reason / sexual desire / pain in
the stomach and piercing pain in the chest / hearing voices / funny sound
like buzz entering your ears....
Does any kind of dreams will associate during sleep ?
Thanks
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:35:18 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in>
To: Ravin <pathmaATnospamtm.net.my>
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All these experiences r there in kundalini awakening.

Love,
Anurag

On Tue, 18 Aug 1998, Ravin wrote:

> what are the symptoms during meditation and after. I experienced the following
> for the past few months and hope you friends agree and help me to understand.
> severe head ache or pain in the skull / body feeling itch and like ants crawling
> on your body / mood change for no apprent reason / sexual desire / pain in
> the stomach and piercing pain in the chest / hearing voices / funny sound
> like buzz entering your ears....
> Does any kind of dreams will associate during sleep ?
> Thanks
>
>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1998 21:11:20 +0100
From: "hc19436ATnospamautovia" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com>
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-ID: <35D9DFE7.27A0E9CEATnospamautovia.com>

Hi Ravin,

These symptoms denote K. awakening. In the Western world, where spiritual life
always was suppressed/hidden, many fairy-tales are the disguise for K. awakening.
The awakening by transformation of the sexual desire always is expressed by the kiss
of a prince. For instance, Little Snow White and the seven dwarfs, where Little Snow
White is K. and the dwarfs are standing for the seven chakras. Little Snow White is
poisoned by the evil witch (maya) to sleep and awakened by a kiss. The sleeping
beauty, standing for K., is another example. With these keys, you can decode the
majority of fairy-tales. If anyone experienced a strange attraction to this kind of
fairy-tales during childhood, now you know why.

Jan

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