1998/08/14  11:11  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #566 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 566
 
Today's Topics: 
  !!!!                                  [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ] 
  Re: !!!!                              [ v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ] 
  Re: !!!!                              [ "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch ] 
  Re: Aging                             [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Observations On Aging                 [ v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ] 
  Re: Fear                              [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: Programming                       [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Re: Fear                              [ "Sen Ashanka" <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.i ] 
  Re: How to say? (fwd)                 [ Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iis ] 
  Re: Apology for intolerance           [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Fear                              [ WEIVODAATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: aura?                             [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ] 
  Re: Cosmic Beam Therapy.              [ cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> ] 
  Re: Aging                             [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  Re: How to say?                       [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
Date: 14 Aug 98 05:28:15 +0000 
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: !!!! 
Message-Id: <OUT-35D3C942.MD-1.0.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
 
!!
 
I am having a transcendental experience RIGHT NOW!!! Haha, I can't 
stop laughing my sides will split!
 
I haven't even been born! hahahahhaaaha. That's so funny! I don't have 
any memories and I don't know anyone or anything. Isn't that bloody 
funny? !! :-))))
 
I think it's flippin' hilarious! My face is aching from smiling so 
much!!
 
My God, I feel so much joy and happyness. I feel like I should say 
sorry for everything I ever said and did, but that to do so is totally 
pointless and unnecessary. Fancy that!!
 
heheehe hehe.. ahahahah ha. Sorry. Can't help myself.
 
It's just so silly. I haven't even really been born! Can you imagine! 
I have no identity. I am nothing. And here I am 23 years old and I 
haven't even been born yet! :-))) hwheehhehehe...
 
oh my god, I think my cheeks are going to explode! :) The laughter is 
just erupting!
 
Oh like, oh yea, big bad life, everything's gone wrong. Hahaha, and I 
haven't even been born yet. What's that gunna be like! ;) hahahahaa.!!
 
<bg>
 
Sorry, just had to share this moment of madness. Can you believe it's 
so fucking simple! It's all a trick of memory. No memory, no birth, 
just nothing. :) 23 years gone and I haven't even begun!  hhehe he 
heh.aaha haahahah ahahahhahaaaa.
 
:-)))))))))))))))
 
Massive smiles and love to you all. I bet I'll regret this in the 
morning but who gives a shit. hurrah for death :)
 
Ooh, here comes the k.
 
<g>
 
I wonder, 89 years old, on my deathbed, and I suddenly realise it's 
all gunna drift away like I never even knew it. And I don't, and 
that's so funny! All this is gunna go! All the hate and problems and 
stuggles are just nothing, they don't mean a thing! There is no answer 
and no question!! Jesus.
 
Gotta go now. As I have been born I obviously need to go to sleep. 
ahaha ahah ahaaahahahahhaaaaaaaaaaaaaaAAAAAAAAA with a bloody capital 
A!
 
Kisses and love, 
Smooch, 
Mwa right on your cheeks you little darlings!
 
hahahahahaha. I was never even born! ahahahahaa. <g>
 
:~-)
 
bye, bye bye to everything, all going away, never to be seen again, no 
family, no friends, no problems, no worries, no jobs, no illnesses, 
no struggles. Just me. ONLY ME!! And I'm minus a billion years old! 
hahahaaha
 
Sorry, so sorry, this will look so bonkers. Won't do jack shit for 
that reputation of mine. :-) eheheheheheahahahaa. :))
 
sorry, can't stop. Just keeps going and going, eruptions of laugher 
and smiling. Can you bloody imagine! None of it matters. It's all 
totally finished! It's all gunna dissapear. Every single memory I ever 
had just totally erased! Comes and goes. No dependency. Absolute zero. 
A totally new fresh start. Hello. My name is Paul. How old are you? 
ahaahahahaaaahahahahaah ehe hehehehehehehe. :-))
 
Better stop now before something /really awful/ happens, like I die or 
something. That would be so terrible. heehehehe. 
 
Bye, entire universe!!!! haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
 
no, still here, keeps on going. ain't no end to the finish of 
everything!
 
Bloody hell. Nothing matters. This is true. It's happening!!!
 
Blije I'm acting like a bloody kid! Can't believe it. It's so real.
 
Everything is quick, movement fast, turning to face everything. No 
looking over my shoulder.
 
All people I ever knew just dissapearing into nowhere. hehe. hahahaha. 
It erupts. My God it just comes out.!!
 
Gotta go now. ehehe, sleep tight kiddies. Mind the bed bugs don't 
bite. Ooooh, wouldn't that be terriblly awful. ahahahahahahaha.! :))
 
hehe. You'll think I'm round the twist. But then you just disappear! 
ahahahaha.! :))
 
My God, my god!!
 
--  
Paul.
 
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:02:54 +0000 
From: v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> 
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: !!!! 
Message-ID: <35D36290.1496ATnospamptialaska.net> 
 
Paul West wrote: 
>  
> !! 
>  
> I am having a transcendental experience RIGHT NOW!!! Haha, I can't 
> stop laughing my sides will split! 
<snip 4 expediency>
 
uh oh! 
nurse! 
i think Paul needs transcendental medication! 
bartender! 
Make me one of what HE had, but just a shot; not the whole bottle, okay? 
;-) 
vc 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 08:13:11 +0200 
From: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch> 
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: !!!! 
Message-ID: <001d01bdc74a$adda15a0$1f37bac3ATnospamzympho.bluewin.ch> 
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Paul wrote:
 
>!! 
{snip} 
>My God, my god!! 
> 
>
 
Jason:  You have discovered a source of divine madness.  This good, very 
good.  But one can go further and learn to contain or handle these 
eruptions.  One can find divinity in carrying oneself with poise, balance 
and unshakable sobriety - even while all of that madness is going on in the 
cosmos inside you.
 
Enjoy yourself! 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:26:26 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Aging 
Message-ID: <35D3D891.A3C725A5ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
> Flute: 
> >We are constantly 
> >changing our cells regenerate constantly. So why is there aging?
 
Your cells become damaged and transmit this information of damage to their 
daughter cells.With each generation getting progressively worse. That's the 
biological process of aging. 
Your body is a carefully controlled nuclear burn. It's about 95% clean. The 
other 5%  results 
in free radicals. They act like sparks on a rug. You can speed up aging easily 
with stuff like 
smoke and pollutants. They accelerate the damage process. You could slow it down 
with 
healthy organic food, exercise, a comprehensive anti oxidant regimen and 
meditation. But do 
this to improve the quality of your life *now*. If you extend your life here on 
mother earth, that's fine. 
But the really good news is liberation is inevitable, you can't put it off 
Forever (though some may try).
 
 
> I think 
> >this just might be another reality that does not relate itself to the 
> >created society forms.  What do you think?  Is there a possibly that 
> >there is really no Old Age? Only that which we accept? Did you notice 
> >that K awakened people have a different look about them? 
> > 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1998 22:32:59 +0000 
From: v <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Observations On Aging 
Message-ID: <35D3699D.1ED4ATnospamptialaska.net> 
 
There is an element of *enthusiasm* & *love for life* which 
accompanies certain spiritual pursuits & creates a genuine amusement & 
interest in oneself & one's surroundings which I believe to have 
regenerative properties. 
   That's why the popularity of that book by Norman Cousins, "Laughter 
Is The Best Medicine", with details of how he recovered from a terminal 
illness by watching MARX BROS. movies. 
   I am speaking objectively here; the people I know who limit their 
minds into a cage & *pretend* to be happy or satiated, & live their live 
like a self-induced holographic projection, or like it is just a "dress 
rehearsal" & not THE REAL THING (Coca Cola - pay me!), are the ones I 
observe graying early & looking old & wrinkled before their time. 
   The vigilant practice of meditation & becoming a vessel for Light via 
visualization seems to carry with it the life-engendering qualities 
neccessary for *detached amusement* & a youthful persona, inherent 
within the practice. 
   Maybe it is the soul shining through is more transparent & radiant, 
and - as soul - appears ageless? 
   Whatever it is, I'm with Norman - laughter & amusement will be the 
healing detachment to keep one not just youthful, but sane... 
vc 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 02:58:27 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Fear 
Message-ID: <35D3E013.73159ABAATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
WEIVODAATnospamaol.com wrote:
 
> My Coaches keep calling me saying I am the best.
 
Must be tough being the best. Where else is there to go?
 
> It's the hardest thing 
> working through the fear, and trying to get my mind back in my killer, and 
> focus mood. Right now the fear has had  in-gulped me.
 
Can you use the fear as an asset to make you perform better?With the right 
perspective the fear can develop a healthy respect in the way you 
perform.
 
> Nevertheless, I am 
> trying to break through it to be the best that I can, and know how to be . . . 
> Just a hard struggle, that I am trying to conquer and win.  It's kinda eating 
> me alive.
 
You need to direct this energy better. Can you use it as a type of springboardto 
launch off? The energy you need to do well is in the fear. Work with it. 
Like an inkblot it's what you choose to see in it. Will you choose to see it as 
the 
energy that gives you strength? It is your strength.
 
> Im scared to ski, scared for the speed, falling and everything else,  and with 
> the fear I know I can't ski my best, and be the best...Right now, what I want 
> most is to return, but I afraid, and I am not to sure how to handle this all, 
> or how to break through the fear.
 
As a jedi knight once said, "Use the Force".
 
> Confused and Lost, 
> Kristin
 
You're confused and lost state will pass. You already know this. You know you 
willperform just fine. You can't fool me.
 
David 
(not fooled) 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 03:12:41 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Programming 
Message-ID: <35D3E368.714EC554ATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
janpa tsomo wrote:
 
> beanie babies are evil incarnate ;)
 
And what about Tele-Tubbies?I say we shave the bastards and check for sixes. 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 09:29:55 +0200 
From: "Sen Ashanka" <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it> 
To: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Fear 
Message-Id: <C1256660.0027F37C.00ATnospamais.it> 
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>Im scared to ski, scared for the speed, falling and everything else,  and 
with 
>the fear I know I can't ski my best, and be the best...Right now, what I 
want 
>most is to return, but I afraid, and I am not to sure how to handle this 
all, 
>or how to break through the fear. 
>Confused and Lost, 
>Kristin
 
Hello Kristin,
 
What you have said  and experienced is perfectly natural. All of us have 
fears, specially in the places where we have lost or got hurt. We do not 
want to go through this harrowing experience all over again.
 
But, you  do  want  to  ski,  for the  fun of it, the thrill, the health 
aspect and  all  that.  The feel of the fresh cold air on your face, the 
sheer power of speed under your full control....
 
Take  time  off,  a  week  maybe, and concentrate on your fear. Think it 
through and  through.  Imagine  the  worst and mentally picture yourself 
overcoming everything, even  the  worst  of the worst incidents. Do this 
exercise, and then convince yourself  that  you can handle anything, and 
what will happen cannot be worst than what you  can handle. That will be 
the strength-giving magic potion for your efforts. Try it for a week. 
You have nothing to lose, and everything to gain from it.
 
**
 
There was a zen story of a chinese wrestler, who could beat everybody in 
the  wrestling  classes,  but  during  tournaments he was a horribly sad 
failure.  Even  novices  could  beat him in tournaments. So he went to a 
spiritual teacher  for  the  remedy.  The teacher advised him to go to a 
certain temple and pray for  the  night.  So  this  wrestler went to the 
temple in the night and sat in prayer. There was a  storm that night and 
everything was topsy-turvy,  but  the  wrestler  did not move. The water 
from the sea swept past the  village  and  took  everything with it, and 
even then he did not move. The next  day  when  we got up from prayer he 
was a different man.
 
>From that day  there  was no one in the whole country who could beat him.
 
**
 
So, dear Kristin, fear is natural, do not worry about it. Let your fear 
die  a natural death in your mind. Concentrate on the events that might 
occur and work yourself out of them. The more you think about fear, the 
more  powerful  fear  will  become.  These  are the little mischievious 
imprints of  the  mind,  trying to deviate you from what you want to do. 
So leave fear alone and  do  other  things  for a week and then see the 
miracle. You will then be  working  your own miracles once you have let 
go of fear  :-)!
 
 
Cheers and love to all 
Ashanka 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 13:38:49 +0530 (IST) 
From: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> 
To: Kundalini Mailing List <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: How to say? (fwd) 
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.3.93.980814133638.3355A-100000ATnospamBhaskara> 
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
 
Danijel here it is someone else who accepted ur challenge. :-)
 
  
kreeeEEEEEEErrrrrrrrrrrrgdoingkdoinkscrrrrrrrrrrrrrkbong
 
>> Sure there is. Listen to the sound your modem makes when you're dialing 
up, 
>> and then write it down and send it to me, and I'll bow. :))) 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 05:35:54 EDT 
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Apology for intolerance 
Message-ID: <d06a28e8.35d404fbATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 8/13/98 11:11:34 AM Eastern Daylight Time, HPRGRIMEATnospamihc.com 
writes:
 
> I didn't think  that these comments would necessitate some accusing me  
>  of intolerance. So, If I have offended some people's choice of 
entertainment, my apologies.
 
Hey Ron...
 
No need for apologies and no offense was taken.  I don't see that anyone was 
accusing you of intolerance -- it was a correcting of a misinterpretation of 
''everything is as it should be''  and that such thinking leads us to tolerate 
cruelty and violence amongst us.  That was just your opinion (and may be true 
or false), and others gave their opinions too (which may be true or false). 
Just opinions.  Nothing more, nothing less.  
 
It is a sharing we have here, allowing those with close-minded thinking in 
certain areas to open up to other ways of seeing things. Sometimes we come 
across a few people (let's say ''new agers'' for example) and they have acted 
in a way to give you your opinion of them.  They are just a percentage of 'new 
agers' and do not represent the whole.  The Ku Klux Klan is based on these 
limited views.  
 
Awakening Kundalini brings you more and more to open-minded thinking, 
realizing as we go along,  it becomes impossible to judge anything or anyone, 
as we do not know the big picture.  We realize that our views are limited and 
there must be more to what we are seeing!  I'm sure you realize this.
 
Do not mistake what I am saying that this is to ignore or deny blatent abuse 
that has come into our awareness.  Anything that would even slightly irritate 
us is a call for help, a call for reinterpretation, a call for love, a call 
for something other than denial (which is our usual way of dealing with 
things).  
 
You are a valued member of this kundalini kommunity and I personally, have 
been enjoying your posts very much, as I'm sure everyone else has too.   I'm 
really glad to have you here.  
 
Much Love, 
xxxtg
 
* No one can drive us crazy unless we give them the key *
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html   
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 12:01:11 EDT 
From: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com 
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net, Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Fear 
Message-ID: <f00ac908.35d45f48ATnospamaol.com> 
 
>Must be tough being the best. Where else is there to go?
 
I like being number one, but I don't like to be called the best unless I can 
perform that way too. Right now, I am unable to do so. It's very frustrating, 
cause I know I can perform at that level, and that I can succeed and be the 
best, but I know right now I can't cause I am scared to even try to do so. I 
don't want to be injured again, or go through that pain again, and be taken 
away from my skiing. I have to get past it, cause with it right now, I am not 
helping myself at all. I only want to go up and not down.
 
>Can you use the fear as an asset to make you perform better? With the right 
>perspective the fear can develop a healthy respect in the way you 
>perform. 
>You need to direct this energy better. Can you use it as a type of 
springboardto 
>launch off? The energy you need to do well is in the fear. Work with it. 
>Like an inkblot it's what you choose to see in it. Will you choose to see it 
as 
>the 
>energy that gives you strength? It is your strength.
 
I have been trying to take my negative fear/energy, and turn it in to positive 
energy to help me, but I am not to sure how, and in what way to do so. I have 
been trying, just not succeeding.
 
>You're confused and lost state will pass. You already know this. You know you 
>willperform just fine. You can't fool me.
 
I still question it, and that's what hurts.
 
>David 
>(not fooled)
 
At least someone's not fooled, cause I sure am.
 
Kristin 
-You can win and still not succeed, still not achieve what you should. And you 
can lose without really failing at all.- 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:22:31 +0500 
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> 
To: melintonATnospamalison.sbc.edu 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: aura? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980814222231.0068bbbcATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Aura shows: 
1.Negativity at two left para-thyroids 
2.Pineal is developed. You may be clairvoyant or with some more practices, 
gift of nature can be with you. 
3.Amygdala shows little more towards reactivity. 
4.cc and nc shows intelligence towards higher side. 
5.Partially raised Kundalini 
6.Uniform aura above 4 inches. 
Please keep informing your developments. 
With love, 
Ms. Seema 
------------------------------------------------------- 
At 12:07 PM 8/13/98 -0400, you wrote: 
>Thank you Ms. Seema. My question may have seemed "intellectual" because I 
am  self-aware and I wonder if an aura reading would reveal more than I 
already sense. Very perceptive individuals are often helpful in exposing 
more of self to self. You seem to be such a person. So, my question was not 
asked out of passing intellectual whimsy, but because I would like to 
correct flaws in my personality. I am training to be a healer and I think I 
will be more effective if I am whole in mind, body and soul. 
> 
>> REPLY-- To sense the aura 'thoroughly', a photograph is required please. 
I have attached one.Aura  size clearly reveals the reactive nature 
>>of a person. What can I read to learn more about the aura? Thank you Ms. 
Seema! 
>Sincerely, 
>Liz (signalfire) 
  
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 22:13:54 +0500 
From: cosmic energy <sciATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> 
To: Anurag Goel <anuragATnospamBhaskara.ee.iisc.ernet.in> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Cosmic Beam Therapy. 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980814221354.0068bbbcATnospamnde.vsnl.net.in> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
you wrote:
 
>I didn't even tell name to u and not even forwarded e-mail to u than how 
were u able to access aura. Was it through my thoughts? 
<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<YES>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
Aura sensing must be a private thing . Don't take it casually .
 
>I understand it a bit. But can u kindly explain how is it private and in 
wat sense? 
 
HERE IT IS-- 
Though it is possible to completely know about condition of a person by 
sensing the AURA, but a healer(Sadhak) has no right to encroach the privacy 
of a person unless and untill he/she clearly does not request for his/her 
taking remedial steps or to clearly request for healing. Cause and effect 
(the Karma) is working. You might have noticed that in our detailed 
information we have clearly given that we do not convince or persuade a 
person to come to us for healing, the destiny brings them.More than 3000 
person in India and abroad (through internet )received/receiving help from 
us, in finding cure to their incurable and chronic dis-eases.When they seek 
advice , "should we bring others to you for healing" - their intention 
remains to work as middleman. We suggest them just to pass on information 
and not to insist or bring them. Let them take their own decision. You 
cannot help a person unless destiny calls for.  
Again note we sense aura for healing and not for satisfying intellectual 
hunger. More you explain , more questions come up in an intellectual mind. 
These are the matters to be practiced in silence. Mere discussion takes no 
where. Therefore  do not ask about aura sensing of anyone unless one is 
ready for healing.We are thinking of opening centres in different cities 
preparing dedicated people for Reiki/pranic etc. In case they find 
difficulty in healing any dis-ease , then to take help from us here. 
There can be no dearth of money in every city because sick rich are in 
numbers who can easily exchange energy. Again understand properly that I 
personally do not sense aura, I get it done by convincing the 
Sadhak(practitioner)-who does this therapy . 
With love, 
Ms. Seema  
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At 10:32 PM 8/13/98 +0530, you wrote: 
On Thu, 13 Aug 1998, cosmic energy wrote: 
I challenge you, show me, tell me, and such others which we find in list 
and therefore we hope you will not mind our using this in our letters.    
Sure i won't mind them.Anurag 
 ---------------------------------------------------------- 
At 09:23 PM 8/12/98 +0530, you wrote: 
Thanks very much for the kind reply. I was pleased to know abt my 
aura. Can i ask u a favour? can u let me know the aura of a friend 
if I forward e-mail to u. Once again thanks! L & L, Anurag 
>> ---------------- 
 (SEND PHOTOGRAPH for a thorough sensing. HOWEVER ROUGHLY it shows that the 
 person has above three inches uniform aura EXCEPT  in the brain where 
tension exists.12TH CRANIAL NERVE KNOWN AS "ACCESSORY NERVE" IS SHOWING 
NEGATIVITY. 
--------- 
I don't have her photograph.Seema i didn't even tell her name to u and not 
even forwarded her e-mail to u than how were u able to access her aura. Was 
it through my thoughts? 
 Aura sensing must be a private thing . Don't take it casually . 
I understand it a bit. But can u kindly explain how is it private and in 
wat sense? Thanks for all the interesting and knowledgeable info. 
L & L Anurag 
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:52:54 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: "Jason S. White" <zymphtATnospambluewin.ch> 
Cc: <fluteATnospamtexas.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Aging 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980814105254.00c5823cATnospammail.fantasycorp.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
At 08:30 PM 13/08/98 +0200, Jason S. White wrote: 
>Flute: 
>>We are constantly 
>>changing our cells regenerate constantly. So why is there aging? I think 
>>this just might be another reality that does not relate itself to the 
>>created society forms.  What do you think?  Is there a possibly that 
>>there is really no Old Age? Only that which we accept? Did you notice 
>>that K awakened people have a different look about them? 
  Well, I had guidance tell me recently that I am supposed to become 
immortal, I am not sure what for, but hey, I'm not in charge.. Goddess 
wants me to become immortal, then I guess it will happen. Wonder what that 
will be like.  
  I was given a formula tho.  
  The body is the past. The breath is the moment. Thoughts are the future. 
Thoughts are things.  
  The way I interpret this is as follows: 
  The body is the past: Deepak Chopra sez we get a whole new body every 7 
years, down to the smallest molecule. So why do we have illnesses and scars 
that are not healed after 7 years? Coz the memory of the scar, the 
emotional content that is Karma, is held in the energy body, and the energy 
body is the organizing principle of our physical beings. The energy body 
tells the cells to keep recreating the scar, or illness.  
  So, the body becomes a repository of blockages from the past.  
  The energy body collects the straws of Karma, the emotional content of 
our past memories. When it all gets too heavy with the past, the blockages 
interfere with the life energy moving thru the energy body. Eventually 
there is more past than present, the body mercifully dies and spirit starts 
over with a new one.   
  There was a line in conversations with, God is asked how long we are 
intended to live.. God says, our bodies were supposed to last forever!! 
This resonated with me, which was a surprise, at the time.  
  The breath is the moment: 
  When we focus in the breath, we tune into eternity.. from a perspective 
of eternity, time does not really exist, and so does not affect us. By 
focusing on the breath, the bellows of life energy, we can clear the 
blockages of the past, out of the energy body. 
   We age because the past catches up with us. When we clear the karma of 
memories out of the past and live in the moment's breath of eternity, we 
cease to age, because the past no longer exists for us.  
  Alvin Toffler, in the "Third Wave" suggested that releasing the "good old 
days" thinking o f the past, and flowing with the changes of the present 
will help one to stay young, while the pace of the world, the information 
age keeps speeding up. 
  I remember, a few days after realizing that, (several years ago) I was 
off to a new job using the Sky train. (LRT). The train was delayed, coz a 
woman had walked down the tracks and committed suicide by being hit by a 
train. These trains have no drivers, they are all computer run.  
  There was an old woman complaining that this would never have happened if 
there were still the old streetcars. I tried to explain to her, that 
streetcars would never be able to carry such large numbers of people so 
quickly, but she wasn't listening. She didn't want to hear about the 
present, she was stuck in her idea of "the good old days". She seemed to be 
aging and ossifying, dying slowly before my very eyes.   
  This is the energy body mechanism of old age diseases. Alzheimer patients 
go live in their memories of a happier past, and reject the present. 
Goddess provides. 
  Thoughts are the future, thoughts are things.  
  Every thought, is a prayer of manifestation. Fearful thoughts produce 
scary future events, which will then create more past to be released.  
  
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 10:58:26 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: onarresATnospaminreach.com 
Cc: Danijel Turina <dturinaATnospamhempseed.com>, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: How to say? 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980814105826.00c5d358ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com> 
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   Danijel wrote: 
>>Oh, even better, can you write down the sound of one hand clapping? ;))) 
  Easy:    Om.  
  There _is_ only One Hand.. all others are illusion. 
 
 
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