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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #551


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 551
Today's Topics: Shaivism 1 Comparisons [ hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT) ]
  Shavism 2 Tattvas of Universal Exist [ hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT) ] Yoga University new Web design [ Octavian Sarbatoare ]
  Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat [ Anurag Goel ] Re: kundalini and hot flashes [ Sekhem13ATnospamaol.com ]
  re: your shaktipat explanation, my s [ "b bah" ] Re: your shaktipat explanation, my s [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: your shaktipat explanation, my s [ Anurag Goel ] Re: Stupid Sanskrit Q [ Danijel Turina
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Shaivism. So vast a topic. Where to start?
How about; Sutra 8 of from the Doctrine of Recognition?
Remember, it's not gospel. It's just an understanding. Take it with a grain
of salt.
*********
Sutra 8
"The positions of the various systems of philosophy are only various roles of that (consciousness or Self)"
"The postions of the various systems of philosophy are, so to speak, roles
assumed by the Self.
1. The Carvakas, for instance, maintain that the Self is identical with the body characterized by consciousness.
2. The followers of Nyaya practically consider Buddhi to be the Self in the
worldly condition. After liberation, they consider the Self as identical with the void.
3. The Mimamsakas also practically consider buddhi to be the Self, inasmuch
as they consider the "I"-consciousness to be the Self.
4. The Buddhists also consider only the functions of Buddhi as the Self.
5. Some Vedantins regard prana as the Self
6. Some of the Vedantins and the Madhyamikas regard 'non-being' as the fundamental principle.
7. The followers of Pancaratra believe Vasudeva to be the highest cause.
8. The followers of Sankhya practically accept the postion of the Vijnanakalas.
9. Some Vedantins accept Isvara as the highest principle
10. The Grammarians consider Pasyanti or Sadasiva to be the highest reality.
11. The Tantrikas consider Atman as transcending the universe to be the
highest principle.
12. The Kaulas consider the Universe as the Atman principle.
13. The followers of the Trika philosophy (Shaivism) maintain that the Atman is both immanent and transcendent.
This Sutra may be interpreted in another way: the experience of external
things (such as color) and internal things (such as the experience of pleasure) becomes a means for the essential nature of Siva or the highest
reality to manifest."
analysis of sutra content- Doctrine of Recognition Ksmeraja
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Now my $.02
Shaivism is very similar to Vedanta but differs in at least two very major
respects.
1. Vedanta says that the levels of existence above Maya is just
undifferentiated Brahman. Period. No discriptions. Vedanta acknowledges only 25 Tattvas (levels of vibration).
Shaivism describes 36 Tattvas or levels of vibrational continuum.
Shaivism is very descriptive about the perceiver levels above Maya. This is
called the Supramental (Sri Aurobindo) or The Indescribable (the Buddha).
It's the best part of the information (imho). More on that later.
2. Vedanta says that all Purushas (individual souls) experience the same
Prakriti (Objective manifestation of the universe)
Shaivism states that each Purusha has it's own unique, distinct, individual experience of Prakrati and that the sum total of all beings' objective
experiences form what is called the "Matrix of Objectivity".
An example of the concept of the 'matrix of objectivity' on the mundane level:
Interview 10 witnesses at an intersection where an automobile accident occurred and you will get 10 versions of the incident, all true and
correct. Yet, many versions will appear to conflict.

Consciousness finds what consciousness looks for.
Example:
Light moves in waves. Light is also moves as photons, or particles.
If I want to measure light waves, I see waves. If I want to measure particles, I see photons.
How does the light know which form to take for me?
answer: Light doesn't know anything. Nor does it care.
I see and find what consciousness and attention are directed to, and expect
to find.
This illustrates two equally valid and correct perspectives on the world that are different for each viewer, depending on the position that
consciousness takes.
How else to put this?
The world is as you perceive it to be. You look for bad, you'll find bad. You look for good, you'll find that. In fact, you'll find all sorts of
stuff you didn't know about or want to know about. There is no limit to the forms the Self can take.
The good news is that you have complete power to shift your awareness at
any time (if you know how). you can choose and change your paradigm at will. (view of your relationship to the world and the Self)
The entire manifestation, including Shiva and Shakti are reproduced in the
individual. It is like a fractal in math. Like a real hologram (laser illuminated) the whole in each piece, but from a different view of the
window.)
 It is a continuum of "I" ness, a continuum of vibration, or a continuum of perciever levels. Or more. You choose.
Wherever your consciousness takes up and establishes itself on that
continuum of "I" ness, will determine your experience(s) of the objective manifestation.
Shaivism specifies 7 distinct perceiver levels, or stations of experient.
In order to not transmigrate (reincarnation) one must establish Vijanankala
or 3rd level perceiver state minimum, while still in the body.
More on that later.
Next:
The Tattvas; Micro and Macrocosmic levels of vibration

Best,
Martin Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 06:28:29 -0400
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The Continuum of Vibration-
The levels of vibration are referred to as Tattvas.
Tattvas 1-5 of the 36 Tattvas, or vibratory levels of existence of the
Self, in Shaivism, are the Tattvas of Universal Experience
Each of the 36 Tattvas has all 36 Tattvas contained within it, but at any
given Tattva only one particular quality will predominate.
For instance, on a low vibratory tattva, the predominant quality may be 'Solidity'.
At the next highest vibratory state or Tattva- Fluidity. and so forth.
There are Bhuvanas (levels) within each Tattva, The Tattvas are the main
demarcation points, although one Tattva flows smoothly into the next, as levels of vibratory succession from highest vibration to lowest.
The information below addresses Universal Experience Tattvas 1-5:

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" As has already been said, Parama Siva has two aspects, viz., transcendental (visvottirna) and immanent or creative. This creative aspect
of Parama Siva is known as Siva tattva.
1. Siva tattva is the initial creative movement (prathama spanda) of Parama Siva.
2. Shakti tattva is the Energy of Siva. She polarizes Consciousness into
Aham and Idam (I and This)- Subject and object.
Shakti however, is nothing separate from Siva. Siva in his creative aspect is known as Sakti. She is His ahamvimarsa (I-consciousness), His unmukhata
or intentness to create.
Just as an artist cannot contain his delight within himself, but pours it out into a song, or a poem, even so Parama Siva pours out the delightful
wonder of His splendour into manifestation. In Sakti tattva, ananda aspect of the Supreme is predominant.
Siva and Shakti tattvas can never be separated.

*These two tattvas are above objective manifestation.
3. Sadashiva or Sadakhya Tattva
The will (Iccha) to affirm the 'This' side of the Universal Experience is
known as sadasiva or Sadakhya tattva. In Sadasiva, Iccha (Will) is predominant.
The experience of this stage is "I am this', but the 'this' is only a hazy
(asphuta) experience. The predominant side is still "I". The Ideal Universe is experienced as an indistinct something in the depth of consciousness.
Sadasiva tattva is the first manifestation (abhasa). In this Universe
Experience, both the subject and object are consciousness. Consciousness in this aspect becomes perceptible to Itself; hence a subject and an object.

4. Isvara or Aisvarya Tattva
The next stage of the Divine experience is that where Idam or the This side of the total experience becomes a little more defined (sphuta). This is
known as Isvara tattva. It is unmesa or distinct blossoming of the Universe. At this stage, jnana or knowledge is predominant.
The experience of Sadasiva is "I am this". The experience of Isvara is:
"This am I".
5. Sadvidya or Suddhavidya Tattva:
In the Sadvidya tattva, the 'I' and the 'This' side of experience are equally balanced like the two pans of an evenly held balance
(samadhrtatulaputanyayena). At this stage, kriya sakti is predominant. The "I" and the '"This' are recognized in this state with such equal clarity
that while both 'I' and "This" are still identified, they can be clearly distinguised in thought. The experience of this stage may be called
diversity-in-unity (bhedabheda-vimarsa-natma) ie, while the 'This' is clearly distinguished from 'I', it is still felt to be a part of the 'I' or
Self. What is 'I' is 'This', what is 'This' is 'I' i.e., they have samanadhikarana.
The experience of this stage is known as parapara dasa. It is intermediate
between para or higher and apara or the lower.
Upto this stage, all experience is ideal i.e. in the form of an idea. Hence it is called the perfect or pure order (Suddhadhva) i.e. a manifestation in
which the svarupa or the real nature of the Divine is not yet veiled."

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Remember-
The universal tattvas exist in each individual as well as cosmologically.
That is why you are complete, whole, and self contained as you are. All the universes are in the center of Being in seed form. Like a Banyon tree in a
seed.
118 distinct ones as the Yogins chart. Each one as vast and infinite as this physical universe.
It is really just a matter of recognition, identification, and constant
rememberance.
These universal Tattvas exist above Maya, which means they have residence outside of thought constructs.
You can't think your way out of this one, Virgina. :)
The mind is an instrumentation of knowing, but comes out of the Self. It
cannot know the Self, only melt back into it.
Don't worry. After you shut your mind off and melt it back into the Self you are still there, (fortunately or unfortunately).
Want to visit the place the mind comes 'flashing forth' out of? The
backdrop of transient thought and emotions (Buddhist and correct).
It's easy. It's just hard to stay established there. That's what all the fuss is about.
Take a deep breath. Exhale. Allow your mind to go blank, thoughtless.
Extend this. Eyes open or closed. If eyes open, gaze with wide focus at the floor at about 45 degree angle. Don't focus on any object.
 If the thoughts and emotions start up again, take another breath, exhale,
allow mind to go blank.
Keep doing this. Do it without the exhale of breath once you get the hang of it. Extend the thoughtless state for as long as possible again and
again.
(You understand that I don't mean thoughtless in the context of inconsiderate. I mean no thoughts.). Work on it.
It's as easy as sitting up straight and taking good posture. Just takes a
little practice and effort. Can be done instantly, just like good posture. Usually takes a little time and practice, but fun to do. (what else are you
doing that's so important? :) )
This practice is from Shambhava Upaya, the Supreme Means of Shaivism. The Shakti takes you from your postion of 'thoughtlessness'. (more on that
later)
You just go to your point. Establish yourself, and wait.
Attempting and practicing the state of 'thoughtlessness' creates great 'velocity of awareness'.
Like a rocket, you must cultivate velocity of awareness to break free of
Maya.(we'll define that later).
 Anything less than escape velocity (more on that later, too.) and you 'fall back'. Oops.
Constantly assuming the mental posture of 'consciousness without thought'
causes profound perceiver shifts, upwards in vibration. Quickly.
Practice with eyes open = more friction = quicker shift.
eyes open meditation can = weeks and months of sitting eyes closed.
Why? More friction. Application yields friction and you learn quicker.

Basic meditation is 'turning inward' and 'stilling the mind'.
First level of meditation application is that same practice but with eyes open.
Next level of application is walking with eyes open, thoughtless mental
posture, inward turned gaze.
Final level is performing all life duties in this same 'mental posture'.
This is not an inert state by any means. It is an alert, ready state of Being.
 A 'Being' state, not a 'becoming' state.
When I face an opponent in martial arts, this is the mental posture I want.
Why? Because, in this mental posture, I can feel and read his intentions. I can become whatever is appropriate to the situation. Time has no meaning. I
move as the other intends to move. It is very relativistic for the other party. :)
In a business meeting. You're sitting across the table negotiating. You
shift into 'consciousness without thought' mental posture, and suddenly you can read the other sides' needs and intentions. You close the big deal.
Might be valuable to be able to do that. Fun too.

Anyone can practice the Supreme Means. The Supreme Means exists in the state of the Meant. (the now)
You shift there, and there you are. Staying there, that's the tricky part.
Think only when you choose to think. Use the mind/body as an instrument of
self expression when you have to engage the world. Otherwise, turn your gaze inward toward the Self and do any practice you know how to do which
will still the mind.
Emotions, which are reactions to thoughts, will also go away to. Stress vanishes. The world looks very different. Yet, it never changed. The
perceiver did and so did the perceiver's experience.
How was I ever in that mental constructed prison of my own mind in the first place for so long?
Geez. And I could have stepped out of it at any time and removed all my pain.
Who would have guessed it could be so easy. It's true that we are exactly
where we want to be.
Well, now you have one of the keys and a door out.
You don't have to wait. You can do it right now.
************
Next: (after I do some physical practices to ground myself following this
outpouring of Shakti)
Either: 'The Means' or the '7 Perceivers'. Depends how I'm inspired.

Love,
Martin
Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 07:17:43 -0700 From: Octavian Sarbatoare
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Hari Om Yoga friends,
You are invited to visit the new Web design of Bihar Yoga Bharati pages at:
http://members.spree.com/eagle88/bihapage.htm
also for International Yoga Fellowship Movement at:
http://members.spree.com/eagle88/fellow.htm
Feel free to link to these pages and contribute with info.
Om Tat Sat
Sannyasin Atmabhakta Sydney
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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 05:27:20 +0530 (IST) From: Anurag Goel
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The word Shaktipat means that a master whom people in INDIA call with high respect as "PUJYA GURUDEV" trasfers the energy which the GURU
gained in TAPSAYA inside the body of an individual who is SHISHYA in INDIA. Shaktipat can be had by touch or even when disciple is thousands
of miles away frm GURUDEV. It depends on the individual now how willing one was to take shaktipat. If one is truly devoted towards the person
who is giving shaktipat than he will be absorbing more shakti than if one had less devotion. The experience after shaktipat also depends on
the past and present karmas of the individual. For some indiaviduals there Kundalini can be awakened in full in just a fraction of second it
all depends on the master and individual. For some it may take time and they have to work it out.
Love,
Anurag
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, janpa tsomo wrote:
> >Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 23:52:59 -0400 > >To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
> >From: hyperATnospamhmt.com (HMT) > >Subject: Re: Kundalini / Shaktipat
> > > >>but on the kundalini info web page i read certain things that qualify
> someone > >>to be experiencing kundalini awakening...and the page did not mention
> going to > >>see someone or the word "shaktipat" at all but things like "seeing
> visions, > >>health anomilies that cant be explained etc. Personally, I believe
> words like > >>"shaktipat" are just words--period. I mean, if you are going to
> experience > >>something like a kundalini awakening, there of course are no true
> words to > >>describe it. Im sure the word is like a different language etc....but
> then > >>why cant all that experience these things be able to understand it. I
> dont > >>wish to go to some "master" myself. I feel I should let God do what
> God wills > >>to me instead.
> > >
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 02:06:57 +0100 From: "jb"
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Jason wrote: > [...] I pray for forbearance, resolution of anger,
> sublimation of lust. God help me to be clean. [...]
Jason, the analogy of the pure lotus and the mud wasn't made for talented ones like Ramana Maharshi who merely did what was natural for him. The
analogy goes for people like you, who have to struggle. When C. G. Jung visited India, he could have visited Ramana Maharshi but he didn't. Instead,
he met a person like you, who was rooted in the earth and yet was trying to realize the Self. Jung considered himself fortunate to meet this man,
because for him it was 'the test of Maharshi's teaching'.
Anger can cause a lot of problems. Although there is no 'general recipe', maybe you can adapt this one for your own use: "count from 1 to 10, smile,
think, then act with dignity".
Have you ever reflected on the nature of lust? If one's wife turns out to be one's (formerly lost) sister, would feelings change? If you are looking at a
picture of your mother at age 18, is she still your mother? For some, it helps to see every woman as a mother or a sister. Kundalites could see
Goddess or Krishna in a partner and everyone else.
Jan Date: Thu, 6 Aug 1998 22:43:14 EDT
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In a message dated 8/6/98 3:36:31 PM, you wrote:
>I am looking for information on kundalini awakening and hot flashes. I
>have had hot flashes for a year and cannot find any medical cause. I >suspect that they are related to a kundalini experience I had.
>Debbie
Hi debbie
ATnospam H.flashes relation to kundalini Not necessarily.
assuming you've been tested for estrogen levels and they checkout OK, you
might want to seek out a chinese herbalist. Sometimes hot flashes are generally associated with depleted kidneys- not something that will show up in
tests that you will get from a western doctor. Since this is considered to be a degenerative condition (i.e., can lead to other problems like high blood
pressure), it's worth looking into. This is not uncommon here in the west... in part because of our love of coffee, bad diet, etc. I've been working on
this problem for a couple of years and I've been astonished in the improvement of not only my health but my also my spiritual work
good luck
tammie Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 23:17:44 PDT
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Message-ID: hi,
Thanks for explaining Shaktipat to the disbelieving K-list newbie(?). I
was grinning all thru his post. But know i couldn't respond/explain as convicingly as you did. Maybe he should read Shelby's book? If he is
genuinely interested. I received Shaktipat from Shri Anandi Ma three weeks ago. I felt the
energy enter my crown , go down my neck, then into my right shoulder, down the arm, and out to the tips of all fingers. I of course expected
it to go down one of the main channels instead. But maybe it did since all the chackras are open maybe that's why I didn't feel it there? I
don't know. I didn't go for an awakening, but for a "taming" or sort of a
smoothing, which was definitely accomplished. Shri Anandi Ma, to me is one of the most loving humans i have ever met. So joyous , her eyes
twinkle when she smiles, and her smile is like the smile of a carefree little girl. I was totally amazed by her. Her husband also gives
shaktipat, he too is very warm, careing, peaceful, they complement each other beautifully.
   barb
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Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 03:36:06 EDT From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
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im not a disbelieving "newbie". Actually, I am a very strong believer and have experienced my own k-experiences. I just am really sceptical of all
these new "terms" i havent heard of...not just "shaktipat" for instance...it all sounds too scientific to me. God shouldnt be about science, far from it.
God should be about believing and feeling God's power. Sure, I am looking for a LOGICAL explination of things. But not that far as to be so technical about
it. If ya kno what i mean. Love and Light, Blessed be!
EM-ily Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 13:52:50 +0530 (IST)
From: Anurag Goel To: F19AshATnospamaol.com
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On Fri, 7 Aug 1998 F19AshATnospamaol.com wrote:
> im not a disbelieving "newbie". Actually, I am a very strong believer and > have experienced my own k-experiences. I just am really sceptical of all
> these new "terms" i havent heard of...not just "shaktipat" for instance...it
Anurag> Shaktipat is not a new term.It's u who r new to these terms. It dates back as long as yogis.
> all sounds too scientific to me. God shouldnt be about science, far from it.
Anurag> Skaktipat is not God but a ladder towards GOD.
> God should be about believing and feeling God's power. Sure, I am looking for
> a LOGICAL explination of things.
Anurag> It's like lighting others frm a single light. A union with divine.
 But not that far as to be so technical about > it.
Anurag>If u don't want to be technical than why do u worry abt Kundalini
just worship lord,sing devotional songs, help needy, be good. That will do.
If ya kno what i mean.
Anurag> Why do want to close eyes rather one should look at a thing frm
all sides Wat do u say?
> Love and Light, Blessed be!
> EM-ily >
> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 08:37:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: hbarrettATnospamix.netcom.com (Holly N. Barrett, Ph.D.) To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
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Anurag wrote: Shaktipat is not God but a ladder toward GOD.
Seems to me God is Shaktipat, the recipient, the ladder, God and GOD!
Holly Date: Fri, 7 Aug 1998 18:35:09 +0200
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Thank you for the response. I value your thoughts and I hope that you will share more of them.
>Jason wrote:
>> [...] I pray for forbearance, resolution of anger, >> sublimation of lust. God help me to be clean. [...]

Jan: >Jason, the analogy of the pure lotus and the mud wasn't made for talented
>ones like Ramana Maharshi who merely did what was natural for him. The >analogy goes for people like you, who have to struggle. When C. G. Jung
>visited India, he could have visited Ramana Maharshi but he didn't. Instead,
>he met a person like you, who was rooted in the earth and yet was trying to >realize the Self. Jung considered himself fortunate to meet this man,
>because for him it was 'the test of Maharshi's teaching'.

Jason: Not familiar with the analogy. Do tell. The struggle is present, yes. My body is rooted in Earth, yes. Someday my body will be reabsorbed
into it. The same is true for all human beings. This creates tension only if there are delusions of grandeur, high ideals of oneself. But there is
comfort in Earth. I muck about in the mud because that is my work, my command. The same is true for all human being. But the Self in me lives on
with out "me." This body is but a flickering node of experience for the Self. I cannot claim that. It is not mine. And the same is true for all
human beings.

Jan: >Anger can cause a lot of problems. Although there is no 'general recipe',
>maybe you can adapt this one for your own use: "count from 1 to 10, smile, >think, then act with dignity".

Jason: This is not resolution of anger. Resolution of anger is going to the
roots of it and pulling them out. To cover anger with a supposed notion of dignity may save others heart ache, yes. But within, nothing should be
dismissed so easily without contemplation. Recommend to look at the source of anger squarely, with respect and ask it be kind, to help, to forgive, to
be calm. In exchange offer it your alliegence, tell it you will not fight with it anymore by covering it with "dignity." Transformation of the anger
is possible in this way.
Jan:
>Have you ever reflected on the nature of lust? If one's wife turns out to be
>one's (formerly lost) sister, would feelings change? If you are looking at a
>picture of your mother at age 18, is she still your mother? For some, it >helps to see every woman as a mother or a sister. Kundalites could see
>Goddess or Krishna in a partner and everyone else. >
>
Jason: Yes I have reflected on the nature of lust. I have watched my eyes move towards the objects of my lust seemingly automatically. I don't punish
myself for this but maintain a vigilant awareness of the process. I have seen that this is the mind's preoccupation with the objects of the senses.
Awareness is beautified since the dawning of compassion and steadiness in the face of these objects. Yet still I have lust.

May all your days be lightened with the unburdened awareness of your
equality with ants and with elephants. Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 09:57:29 PDT
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What is the difference in the meaning of the words "Puja" and "Sadhana"?
i seem to hear them used interchangably.
it seems to be 'sadhana' is something a yogin does everyday, as her spiritual practise, and a puja is a well, big more complicated ceremony
that one does with others who get together for this purpose.
TIA,
--me
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Date: Fri, 07 Aug 1998 19:40:41 +0200 From: Danijel Turina
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Message-Id: At 09:57 1998.08.07 PDT, you wrote:
>What is the difference in the meaning of the words "Puja" and "Sadhana"?
Sadhana means "spiritual activity", it's a pretty general word. Puja means "worship". Puja is sadhana, but not all sadhana is puja, if you get what I
mean. :)
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