1998/07/24  21:40  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #533 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 533
 
Today's Topics: 
  delurk redux                          [ "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> ] 
  Re: As Promised                       [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ] 
  My Guardian Kundalini Angel           [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ] 
  hmm                                   [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ] 
  Off topic?alchemy                     [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Something that maybe of interest  [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: hmm                               [ Wonderer <Mrtn74AATnospamprodigy.com> ] 
  Re: hmm                               [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  "Occult Physiology", KRN Conference,  [ "Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindsprin ] 
  question                              [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ] 
  RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight         [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ] 
  RE: As Promised                       [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ] 
  Dream....                             [ Tim <timATnospamsbinfo.com> ] 
  LOVE IN PRACTICE                      [ "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> ] 
  RE: hmm                               [ "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> ] 
  prayer?                               [ trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) ] 
  Re: Planting a Seed                   [ "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net ] 
  AutoPost Re Bipolar ????              [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ] 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 13:38:53 PDT 
From: "janpa tsomo" <j_tsomoATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: delurk redux 
Message-ID: <19980724203853.20856.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
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Hi,
 
at the end of june yours truly decided it would be fun to go meditate  
for a week in a cool temple in the woods of the smokey mountains. 
 
actually it was warm. summer heat and rains.
 
i cried! i never cry. now everything is a lot more 'raw' and closer. 
 
i started crying when i felt at the edges of my awarenss a saddness that  
seemed everywhere.  it just grew & grew and after its initial  surge i  
had a hard time getting grounded. it was hard just being in the temple  
precincts, as there is a lot of energy there, and i was feeling energy  
EVERYWHERE! it was hard because as my teacher said 'you are fighting it,  
thats why its hard for you'. 
 
anyway....it wsa good, very good. 
 
light rays of green hugs!
 
-janpa 
 
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 16:56:57 -0400 
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> 
To: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: As Promised 
Message-ID: <000001bdb745$caf4a8e0$f4589cd1ATnospamcathyber.TOMEN.COM> 
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Hi Kat,
 
I have had the problem of knowing before-hand that someone was going 
to die, or I have known they were dead before being told.  This was 
very upsetting and I would get agitated.  Once, I knew someone had 
died, and was upset all day because no one phoned to tell me.  I did 
not know who exactly had died.  My ex-husband's grandmother, father, 
and uncle were the people I speak of.  The father survived a massive 
heart attack.  I wrote of the upcoming "life-threatening event" 
months before hand in a journal, and prayed for his soul.  I am 
amazed at how calmly my ex-husband took these psychic things that 
were happening, despite the fact that it must have been very spooky 
for him to deal with.  I finally realized, that I know these things 
because it gives me an opportunity to pray for these people.  If you 
know before hand, perhaps you can mitigate the disaster by prayer.  I 
had asked that this information be withheld from me, but now I am 
open to it.
 
The headaches and depression are well known to me also and may  be 
kundalini-related.  I am over the depression, but it plagued me in my 
last life.  Earlier in this one, I had some bouts with it.  During 
the absolute worst depression, I discovered I also had an inner ear 
infection.  Once I was treated for the inner ear infection, my 
depression lifted.  Perhaps you should get to a doctor for a general 
checkup and describe your physical symptoms.  I've also stocked up on 
Ibuprofen, which is a lot cheaper than Advil, but is basically the 
same stuff ;-)
 
Lately, I've had this new symptom.  It seems I can feel vibrations 
running up my spine while I sit in my chair at work.  It's like some 
sort of low grade electricity, but it does not hurt.  My chakras have 
been for the most  part less active in this life than in the last; 
this could be a symptom of their return or reawakening.
 
Cathy
 
You wrote: 
(snip) 
It was around this time that I started to have a great deal of 
headaches (snip)
 
I began to also have waking visions of things that 
>would come to pass.  (snip) usually it is not good news that I am 
getting and I cannot stop what ever it is that is going to be 
happening and that annoys me.  Why be given a gift like this and not 
be able to help people avoid bad things?  (snip)
 
>In L&L & Understanding. 
> 
>Katharine 
> 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 18:19:24 EDT 
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: My Guardian Kundalini Angel 
Message-ID: <3d289e61.35b9086dATnospamaol.com> 
 
I was saved again, not from lightning, but from a major car accident!  
 
Liz 
Date: 24 Jul 98 23:22:45 +0000 
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: hmm 
Message-Id: <35B91745.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
 
hi.
 
I'm having a very, very bad day. I'd kill myself if I thought I'd be 
around to enjoy it.
 
:(
 
-- 
Paul.
 
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:16:26 EDT 
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Off topic?alchemy 
Message-ID: <5d895627.35b915cbATnospamaol.com> 
 
Is anyone interested in Alchemical symbolism?  If so, e-mail me.
 
Liz 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:20:53 EDT 
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Something that maybe of interest 
Message-ID: <30eb5091.35b916d7ATnospamaol.com> 
 
 <A HREF="http://members.wbs.net/homepages/a/s/h/ash18f.html">Ash18f / 
Personal WBS Home Page</A> ...my poetry 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:34:51 -0700 
From: Wonderer <Mrtn74AATnospamprodigy.com> 
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hmm 
Message-ID: <35B9444B.4FDFATnospamprodigy.com> 
 
Write to us Paul.  What is wrong?  How can we help?  I am praying for  
you. Feel God's Love and don't give in to madness.  Whatever this is, it  
will pass.
 
It is clear that you are troubled, and that your mind has found many ways  
over the years to avoid facing the horror of that one day.  Know that my  
heart broke for you when I read your story.  It's not your fault Paul.   
You were just a child playing with a toy, a toy you should not have been  
given perhaps.  You did this with no malice.  You too are a victim here.  
 Your young friend has visited the arms of God and was comforted I assure  
you.  He has long moved beyond where you are.  Forgive yourself Paul and  
let God forgive you.  
 
Sending Love and Light
 
Cathy
 
 
Paul West wrote: 
>  
> hi. 
>  
> I'm having a very, very bad day. I'd kill myself if I thought I'd be 
> around to enjoy it. 
>  
> :( 
>  
> -- 
> Paul. 
>  
> IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
> WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
> E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 17:13:16 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: hmm 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980724171316.00c06a20ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
  Up and down goes the sine wave of serpent. Hang in there, you'll be 
around when it gets better tomorrow. Meantime, enjoy the drama.. see if you 
can figure out where the silver linings are hidden. Know that you are loved.  
 Blessings, Mystress.
 
At 11:22 PM 24/07/98 +0000, Paul West wrote: 
>I'm having a very, very bad day. I'd kill myself if I thought I'd be 
>around to enjoy it. 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 20:42:11 -0400 
From: "Dhyani  \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindspring.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: "Occult Physiology", KRN Conference, etc. 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980724204211.006ef690ATnospampop.mindspring.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Hi everyone:
 
If anyone is interested in reading a summary I completed recently on Rudolf 
Steiner's "Occult Physiology" please let me know and I will email a copy to 
you.  It is about 10 pages long.  This piece is quite interesting 
especially for anyone unfamiliar with Steiner's work.
 
I urge anyone dealing with Kundalini energy to read something by Steiner. 
The Anthroposophic Press has loads of great books dealing with all aspects 
of Anthroposophy.  Steiner is still considered quite visionary even today.
 
I will be happy to recommend titles for your individual areas of interest 
if you desire.  Steiner lived and wrote around the turn of the century and 
his work affected many fields including education, agriculture, medicine, 
architecture, music, art, movement, and more.
 
Also - Is everyone aware of the Kundalini Research Network?  They are 
having a conference October 15-18 in Norcross, Georgia.  Here are a few 
phone numbers if you are interested:
 
Membership information:  KRN, P.O. Box 1150, Cupertino, CA  95015 - 
408-257-6241.  Conference information call: 
800-238-8685.
 
I have never attended a conference but they look quite interesting.  
 
Last:  Has anyone with active Kundalini energy experienced the sensation of 
psychic illness when encountering another person with awakened "K" energy? 
I have had difficulty with this for several years.  I have experienced it 
even over the phone.  I will get quite dizzy, disoriented, lightheaded, 
etc...  It lasts about five or six hours.
 
My Anthroposophic Doctor says I must stay away from people who have energy 
which comes into my field too closely.  
 
Dhyani 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 21:30:02 EDT 
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: question 
Message-ID: <68d3a30f.35b9351bATnospamaol.com> 
 
is their any kundalini groups in Washington? around Seattle? 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:36:00 +0100 
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>, <Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com> 
Subject: RE: The Seeds of Self-Delight 
Message-ID: <000901bdb76c$941691e0$4df14dc3ATnospamjb> 
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Harsha: Three Gems from the classics (from the Collected works of Ramana 
> Maharshi). 
> 
> Atma Bodha (Verse 34): I am free from qualities and actionless, eternal, 
> undifferentiated, untainted, unchanging, formless, ever free and pure. 
> 
> >From Vivekachudamani: "My beloved disciple, this Self can 
> neither be held or 
> given up. It is beyond perception and utterance. It is 
> immeasurable without 
> beginning or end." 
> 
> >From Drik Drisya Viveka: By these (the six type of Samadhis), 
> the attachment 
> to the body ends and the mind that perpetually abides in the Supreme Self 
> wherever it may wander is spontaneously in Samadhi.
 
Jan: The first classic reminds me of last Patanjali sutra, describing the 
dissolution of qualities into their source. Although Patanjali doesn't 
mention K., it is obvious that the final transformation is the 
transformation of K. herself. Purohit Swami was familiar with it, as he 
wrote a comment about the sound AUM that will be heard as the final 
experience. The second classic will lift one sensitive enough directly into 
samadhi. The third classic I don't know and I never counted the amount of 
different samadhis.... the very idea of it.... One type of walking samadhi 
was rather addictive. It started with the awareness of 'something' in common 
between 'me' and 'the external world', first in my vicinity but rapidly 
expanding to All That Is. At the same time, all senses stopped working, 
except for seeing and hearing. Then, awareness was without bounds while 
walking.  More than fully aware, without feelings of gravity, fatigue, 
temperature etc. it was far more than miraculous. I called it 'preview of 
liberation'. It never lasted longer than half an hour. 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 02:35:54 +0100 
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: As Promised 
Message-ID: <000801bdb76c$90af4b00$4df14dc3ATnospamjb> 
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Katharine wrote: 
<big snip> 
>  I 
> saw a Physic 
> recently he tells me there is a lot of purple in my aura......What does 
> purple mean?  He also saw the depression that is around me and 
> has given me 
> some keys to work with that are helping.
 
Jan: 
Violet shows spiritual transformation, acceptance, sensivity and intuition. 
Clear and pure violet shows a mix of selfless love and self-surrender. Soft 
lilac means love for the immaterial, the search for magical/mystical 
solutions. Reddish violet shows love to others. To be sure, have some 
aura-photos made. To my experience, they are reliable. 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 19:06:32 -0700 
From: Tim <timATnospamsbinfo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Dream.... 
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980724190632.007a1100ATnospamsbinfo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
Don't post often....regardless last night I had a dream....
 
Unique in the respect that I still remember it hours later...
 
Woke up at 200am .... felt the power of the dream, making me wide awake.
 
I dreamt of being at my alma mater leading a discussion on yoga...We were 
going down a list of names...Nicknames like in chat rooms...each person 
related their experience...After mediating the discussion my family came 
inside the lecture hall, distracting me from the discussion.   I turned 
over the lead to another individual...It was Paul....lol....kinda of 
freaky....
 
Well, i went outside...talked to family about being ready to leave in a 
sec....they said ok...meet me at home...I tried walking back into the 
lecture...but the stairs up to the hall kept extending...the more i climbed 
the higher they grew...i made no progress...
 
I gave up...went into the central quad meeting area, and sat down and looke 
out at all the people.   My Architect doing my remodel walked by...I 
waved...started talking to him about yoga and kundalini....he said he 
studied religous studies in school during his architectural studies...said 
he was an amateur shaman...I expressed i desire to meditate and be one with 
my inner power....he put his hand on my head....
 
THen a tremendous burst of light and energy flowed from my crown down my 
spine...  It was consuming...i lay in the middle of the quad...not being 
able to move, completely energized but unable to communicate to anyone...my 
family was looking at me watching me trying to get me to respond...I was 
paralyzed, but completely conscious of everything around me...
 
Finally I was able to move...I started to regain control....but next to me 
was my architect...he was sitting there swaying in a trance....saying MORE, 
MORE, MORE....
 
I sat down next to him....and held him tight....he relaxed....we both 
relaxed...
 
I woke up...Completely wide awake....didn't go back to sleep....
 
Kinda of sleepy now though lol....
 
It's only 700pm 
 
Tim 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:28:46 +0200 
From: "Magne Aga" <magneagaATnospammonet.no> 
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: LOVE IN PRACTICE 
Message-Id: <199807250332.EAA27179ATnospamumbukta.monet.no> 
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Attention to all light workers: Love your neighbor as yourself ! What you 
express outwards, you will receive in return.
 
This evening, I met in a pub some woman who was - definitly schizofrenic. 
I knew her brother many years ago. He was completly hocked on heroin. There 
were no way out. Hell is a a state of consciousness, a mass of energy going 
round and round in an ever-lasting circle. 3 Years ago, these Michigan born 
friend, the person telling me tales under a bridge about how it was living 
there, with snow under the heaven of the Michigan lake, gave me great 
thankgivings, explaining that he had abolished his dependency on Heroin, 
and established a family and work. I was a greater angel of help than I 
consciously was aware of, he said.
 
So this evening, by coincident, I met his sister. I say "coincident", since 
from the Ego view, the spiritual 4th dimension is 100 % non-trustable. From 
the spiritaul vïew, it's confidence absolute, the only beacon of light. So, 
after a monstrosious quarrel between her and her environment, I guided her 
home to her place of "living" (a hospits of drug abusers). She told me that 
I didn't knew what I was doing (a very hard and dangerous environment in 
her "home", with people killing a person for "no conscience at all" - a 
human life costs § 1000 according to their price). But I did it, and I feel 
a duty to everyone to help "the least of these", those in the current 
period of time who don't belong to the economical corruption ("bloody 
communist", people screamed at me) nor the enlightened one's. You have a 
duty to help these people directly. Wake up ! Go out and help people 
through your light. You don't have to tell them complex esoteric teachings. 
Just be there ! 
 
EVERY MAN IS A STAR !
 
Through your just and simple contact with these persons, you will 
experience a mass of love in reward ! You ARE these people ! You have a 
duty to help them out of their mess. Love is UNCONDITIONAL.First. Forgive 
Yourself of every misdeed You may have comitted, as Your High Self ALLREADY 
have forgiven You. Then spread these Light of Love to your fellowmen, no 
matter how bad your reputation becomes, no matter how people say and think 
about You. Love is UNCONDITIONAL; any other description is uncomplete. Do 
not bother about reputation, THE TEMTPATION OF BEEING WELL THOUGHT OF BY 
OTHERS. Follow the one and only Rule: Love Your neighbor asYourself. 
 
In these Final, critical time capsule, it's later than You think. From 1960 
to 1971, the ascended masters prepared us through esoteric teachings that 
the plan of man of Earth was about to manifest on an EXOTERIC level. From 
1972 to 1983, we had a mass educational program, teaching man on Earth 
about their reason for suffering and beeing here, including the revealing 
of textbooks long forgotten ("The book of Dzyan", "The book of Maitreya", 
some hidden parts of the Quabbalah etc), from 1984 to 1995, they told us 
that AT LEAST 144 000 Light workers HAD TO REACH THE 6TH INITIATION, 
OTHERWISE THE WHOLE PLAN FOR MANKIND IN THE PREVIOUS 26000 YEARS WOULD 
FAIL. So, with these channeling of relief from Morya in '93, he stated that 
the minimum number HAD BEEN REACHED, that the "rainbow bridge", connecting 
us to the 4th dimension, was complete. Let us Rejoice for Mankind ! 2 Years 
in store, the minimum number of demonstration of their light body, ESP 
abilities, was reached. These persons belongs to every state, every 
country, every part of the world. They do not belong to any specific 
organization or group. They are the bridge, helping the rest of mankind to 
connect to the 4th dimension. They exist in every endeavour of life. 
Whatever problem you have, whatever challenge you face, the GOOD NEWS is 
that there is HOPE. We have at least one representative of our own specific 
needs in the human family, somewhere, who can help You with whatever 
problem you have. They exists in prisons, in the street, in any condition 
imaginable.
 
In the 12 areas of our globe, each with 12 000 light workers, let us 
visualize, by dividing the 2 hemispheres of our brain into 6 parts:
 
1) Canada - See these Nation in peace with themselves. Stop the internal 
quarreling. 
2) US - Beeing a Nation of materialistic development primarly today, see 
the US as a spiritual Nation, ligtening up outwards through Space. Imagine 
the lights spread outwards through Space as an image. This is the New 
JerUSAlem. 
3) To all light workers in Mexico, middle America and the surrounding 
Islands, prepare for them for the LARGEST RAISE IN CONSCIOUSNESS ever 
experienced, in these region. 
4) To South America, See the people RETURN to their Divine reason for livng 
there. 
5) In Europe, We have the European Union. Expand these image, as just the 
preliminary beginning, of a UNITY on the spiritual, not yet comprehenced by 
most. The outer appearance is a symbol of an inner transcendence. 
6) Africa, called the "black" continent; imagine it as the continent of 
light. To all the 120000 light workers there, in villages, towns, the 
wilderness, known and unknown, focus on the light, let these continent 
shine. 
7) Russia. Let these continent, ruined by a perverse system, bee REBORN as 
the PHOENIX BIRD from the ashes. 
8) Middle East. Focus on PEACE among the parts in the middle East. Focus on 
the justness in these region. 
9) In India, Pakistan and Tibet: Send a call to every inhabitan to RETURN 
to the teachings of their ancient gurus, sages, shamans and people of 
wisdom from the past. Let these ancient wisdom be reborn. 
10) In Southeast-Asia, see One-ness among the countries there, a new union, 
replacing the old state of war the countries in between. 
11) In China and Korea, we have the last remains of an outdated 
dictatorship. Visualize these region as a region with democracy, freedom 
and respect for the individual. 
12) Finally, Australia, the Philliphines and Japan - visualize a unity 
among people in these region.
 
144000 is a symbolic number, in that the minimum of these number had to 
reach the 6th initiation in order to save the plan of the Earth. Another 
meaning is the number of the blades in the chakras: 4 + 6 + 10 + 12 + 16 + 
96 ( 2x 48) x 10000 = 144000, and the 72000 nadis with their male /female 
counterparts through inhale and exhale. Another meaning is that when these 
number of cells in our BRAIN are beeing penetrated by Light from above, the 
light body manifests on Earth, making the two bodies, the physical /auric 
and the light body, the electric body, the eternal body unite to ONE, 
overcoming the last enemy "death". And the return of the Chohan on Earth, 
Sananda, because earth in the present cycle of evolution radiates the 7th 
Ray (it will radiate the 6th when the "wheel" in the future moves one step 
around), just as Babaji is the Chohan of the Second Ray (Yellow, that of 
Mercury in the state of NOW), in his Light Body, NOT IN HIS PHYSICAL BODY, 
and remember Sananda was a HUMAN, not "god" - a terrible mistake, will take 
place simultaniously with our second opportunity to manifest the light body 
of Earth. The previous opportunity, 25.6 million years ago, when beeing 
entrapped in physical bodies, was the beginning of a cycle ending in the 
end of our century. IT IS LESS TIME TO DO THE WORK THAN YOU IMAGINE. THE 
VOTE LAST YEAR DEFINED THE REST OF THE YEARS BEFORE EARTH'S REBIRTH. Me 
beeing in the 4th Initation, the rending of the 4th veil of the Godess 
Isis, mankind entering the last stages of the 1st veil rending, while Earth 
itself rends the seventh stage of the seventh veil of Isis, called maya, 
that's Earth today. Let us heal the traumas which will occur in these 
process. Let's heal the catastrophe which will make upheaval in New York in 
2002. In 1988, the ascended masters told us that it was impossible to be 
born from the two lowest astral realms anymore. By the second coming, 
socalled, it will be impossible to incarnate from the 3rd (that of wishes) 
and the 4th (that of socalled "self-esteem", the feeling of who I am 
according to outer standards) astral planes. Two on the roof, one to be 
taken away, and one to stay, and PITY THE WOMAN WHO BEAR CHILDREN IN THOSE 
DAYS, refers to the complications of adjusting to a higher frequency 
vibration. Let us send LOVE to the "least of these". Let's transfere as 
many as possible into these new vibration. NEVER FORGET THOSE WE LEAVE 
BEHIND; OTHERWISE WE ENTER THE BLACK WAY OF EGOISM.
 
So, let us send Love to these Girl I met, entrapped in an LSD-trip for 
Years. Know that even "the least of these" are worthy for the entrance into 
the 4th dimension of the New Age. It was NEVER meant for the "few ones", as 
the present battle are about, but for the masses this time. This is love in 
practice. And love is unconditional.
 
Blessings from Norway
 
 
> From: Dan Margolis <dmargolisATnospamabm.com> 
> To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
> Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
> Date: Friday, July 24, 1998 7:48 PM 
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> Dan MargolisATnospamABM 
> 07/24/98 10:48 AM 
>  
>  
> Linda Young wrote: 
>  
> >  I believe thru concentrated meditation and prayer, my kundaline has 
> risen. Firey back, 
> >  followed by back pain and headaches. 
>  
> The back pain and headaches may be caused by tension and/or blockages.  
You 
> may want to try seeing a massage therapist, or do whatever stress release 
> exercises you do(yoga, stretching etc...). 
>  
> >I am receiving voices which are giving me 
> >  information and "views", microphone feedback, etc..  Not sure of the 
> credibility or if 
> >  just contacting subconscious.  Receiving from Master Teachers, Indian 
> Guides, Spirit 
> >  Guides and Exterterestrials.  Getting a little concerned. 
>  
> I wouldn't worry too much about the voices in your head... An old saying: 
> "A voice whispered in the night, there is no such thing as voices 
> whispering in the night." 
> A good chance is that you are just receiving information from your 
'inner' 
> voice, but since you aren't familiar with it yet, it is trying to speak 
to 
> you in forms that you would listen too.  If available I would suggest 
> talking to your spiritual teacher. 
>  
>  
>                     Dan M. 
>  
> _____________________________ 
> http://www.metayellow.com/PBS/DanDiscussion.nsf/?Opendatabase 
>  
>  
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 04:21:17 +0100 
From: "jb" <janbarenATnospaminfase.es> 
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: hmm 
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Paul wrote: 
> hi. 
> 
> I'm having a very, very bad day. I'd kill myself if I thought I'd be 
> around to enjoy it. 
> 
> :(
 
Jan: After having killed the body you would still be around and regret your 
act more than I can describe. If you are in the mood of killing, 'kill' the 
ego. Once done, it will last forever. 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:47:25 -0400 
From: trexisATnospamjuno.com (Edward Gurd) 
To: brookelynATnospammail.usinternet.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, peswaniATnospamgiaspn01.vsnl.net.in, principiisATnospamaol.com 
Subject: prayer? 
Message-ID: <19980724.234726.8934.1.trexisATnospamjuno.com>
 
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 02:24:37 -1000 (HST) 
From: Linda Young <principiisATnospamaol.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199807241224.CAA02449ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
I believe thru concentrated meditation and prayer, my kundaline has 
risen. Firey back, followed by back pain and headaches. I am receiving 
voices which are giving me information and "views", microphone feedback, 
etc..  Not sure of the credibility or if just contacting subconscious.  
Receiving from Master Teachers, Indian Guides, Spirit Guides and 
Exterterestrials.  Getting a little concerned.
 
Linda, 
Don't be concerned.  Be happy. 
#1 "God" loves you. 
#2 everything isi FINE
 
What else is there you really need to know?
 
Edward
 
Brooke, 
What is prayer?  I don't mean to be silly.  As my father was a baptist 
minister I virtually grew up  in church and have seen and shared and gone 
through the motions of prayer 
so much that it feels silly and meaningless to me.  I'd think that "god" 
is hearing all that you think anyway, right?  When you pray _for_ 
something, (assuming it comes to pass) 
are you being given what you asked for?  Or is prayer just when the ego 
makes itself 
willing to recieve the benefits "god" was trying to offer the whole time 
that you weren't 
actively accepting?  When I worked in the factory and had lots of simple 
manual work and lots and lots of walking, I basicly had my mind free to 
wander most of the time. 
I thought about god and the world all the time (mabey I was just trying 
to escape the mundane meaningless factory life) but was that prayer?  If 
that is, I'd think it fair to say that I pray plenty, but if not, I'd say 
that I almost never pray.  Doesn't the word pray literally mean ask or 
ask for?
 
prayer
 
>for a while 
>mabey the puzzle of my life will put itself together 
>*i pray a lot*btw 
> 
>love 
>brooke 
>
 
>no 
>Namaste~........i honor the place in you, 
>the place which is of love, of truth, of light, and of peace, 
>when you are in that place in you, 
>and i am in that place in me, 
>we are one...
 
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Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1998 23:52:59 -0400 
From: "Rick Puravs" <ric51ATnospamgeorge.lhi.net> 
To: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Planting a Seed 
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>Paul West........ 
>I can assure you m'dear there is nothing demonic or spookily 
>synchronistic about the term `demon'. If you must know, the only part 
>of the email address I have any say in is the `stationone' part, which 
>I plucked out of the air because just about every other sensible thing 
>had already been taken, including loveclub and pussyparlour.
 
I really hate to encourage you, but i see a significant improvement in your writing style 
 
Blissings, 
     Rick 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1998 00:36:49 EDT 
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com 
To: lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost  Re Bipolar ???? 
Message-ID: <991e0b4e.35b960e2ATnospamaol.com> 
 
Hi Gregory,
 
Please pardon this oversimplification.  Altho I have the label "bipolar," I 
have not been depressed in years.  Whenever I feel the gears shifting (i.e., 
when I feel myself going into hypomania), I simply detach, observe, say, "Ah, 
here goes the kundalini," and jot all my wonderful creative ideas down.  I 
expect--and accept--losing that night's sleep, don't work the following 
day...& by the end of the week or so, catch up on my sleep & work
 
I highly recommend reading Darrell Irving's "Serpent of Fire."  In HIS 
opinion, bipolar and schizophrenic psychosis IS kundalini.  Very comforting & 
validating book for those to read who have been labeled "mentally ill."  Take 
care, Michele
 
 
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