1998/07/21  15:36  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #527 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 527
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: needle                            [ w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl> ] 
  Re: Shaktipat & Fear                  [ flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> ] 
  Re: My bizarre experiences            [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ] 
  Lecture by Flute & friend             [ flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> ] 
  Unconditional Love                    [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ] 
  What's up?                            [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ] 
  Re: What's up?                        [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ] 
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?   [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ] 
  Re: Grounded                          [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ] 
  Re: Unconditional Love                [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ] 
  Re: Unconditional Love                [ "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> ] 
  Re: Mail failure:cut that out!        [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ] 
  Re: Re: My bizarre experiences        [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ] 
  Re: Lecture by Flute & friend         [ "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com ] 
  Re: Fw: Thank you                     [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ] 
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?   [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  Re: Grounded                          [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 13:09:23 +0200 
From: w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl> 
To: Edward Gurd <trexisATnospamjuno.com> 
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: needle 
Message-ID: <35B4767B.6977ATnospamxs4all.nl> 
 
Edward Gurd wrote: 
>  
> Could you give m ore specific instructions on the meditation on the 
> needle for 
> arousing or awakening kundalini? 
>  
ok i give some instructions about meditation on the needle. 
it is based on the meditation of gautama boeddha. 
the original word of boeddha was bhavana it means development or 
cultivate 
it's important to understand that because in the western world 
meditation  
is misunderstood. The western  world thinks meditation is escaping from 
the  
world in fantasy. This is a contradiction.! One of the main forms of 
bhavana 
is a sharp consciousness of everything. Living in the now is very 
important. 
Another important aspect of bhavana is that we must analyze our thougts 
and  
feelings. We must do it from a scientific background. 
--- 
instruction 1 
be attentive. 
sit down in the evening. 
go back in your to your awakening in the morning. 
do it not in words but in images 
if u can't write down the episode. 
if your thougts are wandering away then goto back to your awakening 
write down the moments u have forgotten. 
--- 
instruction 2 
concentrate on the needle 
observe the needle 
your concentration must be absolute. 
other thoughts are not allowed 
try it and tell me if you succeed. 
---- 
instruction3 
concentrate on your respiration 
do not try to control your respiration. 
attempts to control respiration elicts a fight or fly response  
and destroys the relaxation respons.
 
good luck wli 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:10:13 -0500 
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Shaktipat & Fear 
Message-ID: <35B49335.73E2ATnospamtexas.net> 
 
Shaktipat is not a physical experience. Any kind of physical touch is 
not necessary. It can be initiated thru breathwork, then if you wish to 
initiate the physical you can feel the sensations almost tantric in 
nature. (Chuckle)Mystress knows all about this. 
:however basically 
It is the essence of one, joining with the essence of another. In one 
that is kundalini awakened, it will help to awaken the other. No special 
Guru is necessary. There is an individual responsibility involved. When 
you allow/believe that only another can make you happy then you are 
involving yourself in Co-Dependent relations and by that attitude you 
set your self up for unethical treatment. 
  I think, this is not what a true Guru or teacher wants. They want you 
to awaken to your own self and quit depending on the programming of the 
outside world.
 
 Thomas, 
YES ! 
There are two emotions.. One is Fear the other is Love.  Negative 
Positive if you will.  Both are necessary to survive and balance. Fear 
in its positive aspect is the warning signal like the Car Alarm system. 
Something to alert your mind.  In its negative aspect it is the true 
basis for: hate, greed, envy, jealousy, Arrogance, and all the Demons 
that dance in the mind.  Others can control you or steal your energy 
thru fear.  I've been learning much about fear and how it works..  
I have a friend that is a street person/gang member and I have never 
seen such an adapt intuitive. His fear has made him so aware of the 
subtle energies that its amazing. BUT he also uses the fear aspect as a 
tool and a defense. Think of it.. You see the black clothing and the 
fierce look and you think Devil.. THATS exactly what he wants you to 
think.. Then you are less apt to bother him.  I've been observing him 
and talking with him and the thing he fears??   
Love, Hugs, Affection. In his life they have always been something that 
made him let his guard down and He can't survive in his world in that 
manner. So I hug him and watch him blush. He trusts me, but as soon as 
he walks out the door of the Shop.. You see the shoulders straighten and 
the little boy look disappear into the demon of the night. 
Love and Light, 
flute 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:54:11 EDT 
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com 
To: SunSaluteATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences 
Message-ID: <82006138.35b49d84ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 7/20/1998 7:33:46 PM Pacific Daylight Time, 
SunSaluteATnospamaol.com writes:
 
Sun: Evil no doubt has the capacity to harm the small individual--
 
Harsha: What is Evil?  Perhaps it is that which causes immense suffering.  Do 
we not grow from it?  Is Growth possible without suffering?  For me at least, 
great suffering resulted in growth. 
 
 Sun: We must all learn the hard lesson, however, that the Universe is not 
meant to 
 serve the individual ego. It is we who must serve the Universe--including 
 learning how to deal with adversity; the more of us who learn to be selfless, 
 the less "evil" there will be.  We must learn to see not through our own 
eyes, 
 but through the (Third) Eye of the Cosmos.
 
Harsha: Our Eye is the Third Eye of the Cosmos 
  
 Sun: To be a spiritual warrior is to cease all 
 resistance and struggle--to guide with an open hand rather than a clenched 
fist--even as 
 the demon stares you in the face. 
  
Harsha: When the divine light of the Lord of Life is lit in our Heart, will it 
not benefit others who stare us in the face. 
  
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:51 -0500 
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net> 
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Lecture by Flute & friend 
Message-ID: <35B49E9B.104EATnospamtexas.net> 
 
Reiki Masters,  
Flute and Dr. Rolando Rodriquez, MD will be giving a Lecture on 
Multidimensional REIKI 
at the Whole Life Expo in Austin Texas on Sunday, September 20th at  
4:00 in Lecture Room #7.  
We will also be available in Booth #614 for all three days of the show. 
.. 
chuckle.. 
bragging and delighted, 
flute 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 09:57:48 -0400 
From: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> 
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Unconditional Love 
Message-ID: <000001bdb4bb$04c8e280$46e6d5d1ATnospamdefault> 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
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Hi All,
 
I had a realization last night that has feeled me with joy and a deep sense 
of peace.  As I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and being unable to I 
started to feel , this feeling of Love and peacefulness and then this 
thought came to my mind and I wish to share it with all.
 
Unconditional Love simply is.  It is that simple.  The moment we try to put 
it into words or give it thought or try to descripe it to ourselves or 
others 
we have put a condition on it.
 
In L&L & Understandning,
 
Katharine 
Date: 21 Jul 98 21:09:38 +0000 
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: What's up? 
Message-Id: <35B50392.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
 
Hi.
 
Do'ya ever get the feeling that you're in a place where there is 
nothing wrong, and yet that you believe there is?
 
I am wondering, if maybe this is my approach at this time. What if 
maybe I am making much ado about absolutely nothing. What if there 
really isn't anything wrong whatsoever. Who in their right mind would 
want to be in such a heavenly place and yet still believe there's 
something wrong with it?
 
I keep trying to figure out ways to solve the problems and they just 
keep coming back all the time. But I'm starting to wonder if maybe 
everyone else doesn't know about these problems I have, like, maybe I 
am inventing them.
 
I keep feeling that there are all sorts of things wrong. I was looking 
through a website about mental health and in some way I thought that 
just about every mental problem applied to me in some way. But why?
 
Why, if I'm standing smack bang in the middle of paradise, do I go 
around believing that there's so much stuff wrong with me and the 
world? Is it not my judgement, my opinion, my attitude towards the 
world. Why would I want to say that such a beautiful thing is ugly?
 
There always seems to be a mental cloud in my head and it's like I am 
not very aware of myself. And in that cloud there are so many 
complicated ruts and divvets and tangles. It seems hopeless that there 
could be any permanent solution to it all. I keep getting feelings of 
being childish and weak.
 
Why would any enlightened person in their right mind want to view 
themselves as incomplete? That's what it's like. It's as though 
everyone and everything is absolutely a-okay and that, even so, I am 
making there be problems. Why would I do that? Why would anybody do 
that - denying that there is nothing wrong at all?
 
I feel, when I'm saying this, that I am already more aware of myself. 
It's horrible being so unaware all the time. The world outside the 
window is just /there/, and yet every day I wake and it is a threat 
and I have problems and there is something dangerous. Why I am 
inventing these things, these opinions about other peoples opinions? 
Such interference.
 
What sort of a trick is this, anyway? To tell somebody that they are 
wrong when they are completely alright. To lead yourself to believe 
you can't cope with things when there is nothing you can't do. Why 
would anyone want to take something perfect and try to fix it? It's so 
stupid.
 
-- 
Paul.
 
IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz 
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk 
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:51:04 +0200 
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
To: Paul West <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk> 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: What's up? 
Message-Id: <35B4AAD8.730BATnospamroyaume.com> 
 
Paul West wrote: 
>  
> Hi. 
>  
> Do'ya ever get the feeling that you're in a place where there is 
> nothing wrong, and yet that you believe there is? 
>  
> I am wondering, if maybe this is my approach at this time. What if 
> maybe I am making much ado about absolutely nothing. What if there 
> really isn't anything wrong whatsoever. Who in their right mind would 
> want to be in such a heavenly place and yet still believe there's 
> something wrong with it? 
>  
> I keep trying to figure out ways to solve the problems and they just 
> keep coming back all the time. But I'm starting to wonder if maybe 
> everyone else doesn't know about these problems I have, like, maybe I 
> am inventing them. 
>  
> I keep feeling that there are all sorts of things wrong. I was looking 
> through a website about mental health and in some way I thought that 
> just about every mental problem applied to me in some way. But why? 
>  
> Why, if I'm standing smack bang in the middle of paradise, do I go 
> around believing that there's so much stuff wrong with me and the 
> world? Is it not my judgement, my opinion, my attitude towards the 
> world. Why would I want to say that such a beautiful thing is ugly? 
>  
> There always seems to be a mental cloud in my head and it's like I am 
> not very aware of myself. And in that cloud there are so many 
> complicated ruts and divvets and tangles. It seems hopeless that there 
> could be any permanent solution to it all. I keep getting feelings of 
> being childish and weak. 
>  
> Why would any enlightened person in their right mind want to view 
> themselves as incomplete? That's what it's like. It's as though 
> everyone and everything is absolutely a-okay and that, even so, I am 
> making there be problems. Why would I do that? Why would anybody do 
> that - denying that there is nothing wrong at all? 
>  
> I feel, when I'm saying this, that I am already more aware of myself. 
> It's horrible being so unaware all the time. The world outside the 
> window is just /there/, and yet every day I wake and it is a threat 
> and I have problems and there is something dangerous. Why I am 
> inventing these things, these opinions about other peoples opinions? 
> Such interference. 
>  
> What sort of a trick is this, anyway? To tell somebody that they are 
> wrong when they are completely alright. To lead yourself to believe 
> you can't cope with things when there is nothing you can't do. Why 
> would anyone want to take something perfect and try to fix it? It's so 
> stupid. 
>  
> -- 
> Paul. 
yes,i had this problem me too,and i suspect that many people got the 
same problem in my city,it's just an intuition or the fruit of my 
imagination.(imagination? what's that? ) 
i think,you don't have to worie about other things that could be bad 
around you,but trying to find the good. 
if you don't mind about negative energy,you will be able to see and 
judge(third eye) what's should you do,what should you think. 
think good. 
if that can help you or give some clue about that. 
i felt like i'm the man seing the world throu a window.it's the only way 
i found to block negative energy. 
so,after that will be you to judge if you want that bad thinking or how 
you will deal with it. 
do not fall in face of the apearance. 
i think and i have the intuition that one day,we will have to suport us 
to learn. 
i feel like a child too,but i know that i'm not a child. 
even,if everyone think i am or and i hapear like if i was 20 again. 
i'm asking a lot of question about the world,and about the time. 
i have some clue but i am not sure at 97%. 
i don't know what to do about that,maybe we begin to be a little 
sublimited and the earth gravity and other energy are heavy? 
kundalini arising it's maybe a way to sublime our atoms? 
there is much more théories to discoverd about that,throu spirituality 
to all most of the science as physic. 
i have to read about the apocalypse in the bible to find something. 
maybe we are falling in the negative energy of the air element to learn 
and find the light or the control of that element. 
if you find more solution,tell me please. 
i hope for you paul,that you will be ok to find some answers. 
bye :) 
   yannick 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:56:11 +0200 
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? 
Message-Id: <35B4AC0B.205ATnospamroyaume.com> 
 
Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>  
> At 01:19 AM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote: 
> >My problem is too 
> >control my plexus solar chakra 
>   Why? 
[[[do you have another solution,i'll love to hear you miss :) ]]] 
> > and need to be cautious and not let our 
> >past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( ) 
>   Why?[[[i tought that incontroled lotus chakra have the ability to take conscience of our past,our ancient pain and mistake to bite us...it's not ok?]]] 
>   When do you plan to forgive yourself? 
>  
> >i hope paul feel good these days. 
>   I hope everybody feels as Goddess wishes.. 
>        BB, M. 
bye :) 
   yannick 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:08:43 +0200 
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Grounded 
Message-Id: <35B4AEFB.7A88ATnospamroyaume.com> 
 
Subject:  
    Re: Grounded 
      Date:  
    Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:09:17 -0700 
      From:  
    Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
 To:  
    matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
References:  
    1
 
At 12:26 AM 21/07/98 +0200, you wrote: 
>hi i'm yannick. 
  Yes, I have read your stuff.. 
>i'm woried about me and what hapening to me. 
  Yes, you are. Why? Your worrying serves nothing. If you need to know 
something, Goddess will reveal it to you. Everything is happening 
exactly 
as it should. Why can you not trust? 
 
>what can open the third eye.been intiated to spirituality? 
  Many things, but Goddess, really.  
>when i talk about spiritism and théories,i feel a sort of energy in the 
>head,but i don't know where(on which chakra). 
 >since I've been initiated,when i talk and search new théories,i feel 
>something in the head even if i'm talking with a friend or with another 
>people.now,that rather normal to me that energie. 
>is this the third eye? 
  Well, it's gotta be the third eye or crown, but the important thing 
is, 
you are feeling energy in your head. Bravo! Well done. 
 
>mystress,you know a lot of stuff.could you tell me when the next 7th 
>conjonction of the planets will hapen or if that will hapen? 
>thank you mystress :) 
  Nope. But I know that you have to stop spending so much time mucking 
around with predictions, as a way to soothe your worries, and spend more 
time focusing on your faith, in the present moment. Here and Now. The 
future in in God's hands, and you must trust that. 
 
Bless, M. 
yep,that sentence will not let grow me faith in me well miss :) 
tell me if i'm wrong,but i'm trying to learn.trying to answers question 
too.maybe,my opinion have shocked you.sorry bout that. 
miss :) 
  yannick 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:25:35 +0200 
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
To: Kat <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> 
Cc: Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Unconditional Love 
Message-Id: <35B4B2EF.4DC6ATnospamroyaume.com> 
 
Kat wrote: 
>  
> Hi All, 
>  
> I had a realization last night that has feeled me with joy and a deep sense 
> of peace.  As I was lying in bed trying to go to sleep and being unable to I 
> started to feel , this feeling of Love and peacefulness and then this 
> thought came to my mind and I wish to share it with all. 
>  
> Unconditional Love simply is.  It is that simple.  The moment we try to put 
> it into words or give it thought or try to descripe it to ourselves or 
> others 
> we have put a condition on it. 
>  
> In L&L & Understandning, 
>  
> Katharine 
well,i had i dream too tonight.i don't remember but i felt very good and 
peacefull with my woried things about the question and the conception of 
the universe. 
that was a real sleep that night :) 
but i lost all the answer,hehehehe,or i can catch them today? 
bye :) 
   yan 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:08:51 -0400 
From: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca> 
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Unconditional Love 
Message-ID: <000001bdb4f4$5d06f980$3ae6d5d1ATnospamdefault> 
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Hi Yan,
 
>well,i had i dream too tonight.i don't remember but i felt very good and 
>peacefull with my woried things about the question and the conception of 
>the universe. 
>that was a real sleep that night :) 
>but i lost all the answer,hehehehe,or i can catch them today? 
>bye :)
 
Put a pad of paper by your bed with a pen or pencil.  When you wake up write 
everything you remember.  that way you will not forget and it will train 
your mind to remember.
 
In L&L & Understanding,
 
Katharine 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:19:30 -0400 
From: "THOMAS  SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
Cc: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out! 
Message-ID: <01bdb4f5$a16e75c0$c25c9cd1ATnospamauthoriu> 
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-----Original Message----- 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: THOMAS SMITH <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net> 
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net <morlightATnospammhonline.net>; 
kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Date: Monday, July 20, 1998 10:28 PM 
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!
 
>At 10:13 PM 20/07/98 -0400, THOMAS  SMITH wrote: 
>>>At 07:59 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote: 
>>>>TRY AGAIN?? 
>>>  Stop it, already!! 
> 
>>WOW!!! 
>> 
>>Now that was some forceful energy.....yep the Crown is still attached. 
>> 
>>Namaste' 
>>Tom 
>   You are funny.. next time I'll blow it wide open..:) 
>     Blessings, Mystress.
 
I accept! ;)
 
All the Blessings I have, I send to You 
Tom 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:24:42 -0400 
From: "THOMAS  SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: <SunSaluteATnospamaol.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Re: My bizarre experiences 
Message-ID: <01bdb4f6$5bb53a40$c25c9cd1ATnospamauthoriu> 
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Anthony...
 
There is no evil, unless you create one. 
 
Namaste' 
Tom 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:25:54 PDT 
From: "jim privacy" <jprivacyATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: fluteATnospamtexas.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Lecture by Flute & friend 
Message-ID: <19980721222555.24674.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
Dear Flute:
 
Sorry, I'm ignorant. Briefly, what is multidimensional reiki? (Is it  
like multilevel marketing? :)   ) Thanks.
 
Love, -Jim
 
 
----Original Message Follows---- 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 08:58:51 -0500 
From: flute <fluteATnospamtexas.net>
 
Reiki Masters,  
Flute and Dr. Rolando Rodriquez, MD will be giving a Lecture on 
Multidimensional REIKI 
at the Whole Life Expo in Austin Texas on Sunday, September 20th at  
4:00 in Lecture Room #7.  
We will also be available in Booth #614 for all three days of the show. 
.. 
chuckle.. 
bragging and delighted, 
flute
 
 
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:30:41 -0400 
From: "THOMAS  SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net> 
To: <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>, "Kundalini" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Fw: Thank you 
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>> I hear them but I do not see them.  I feel them like a wave of 
>> cold ice. 
> 
>Think warm. Melt them. 
>(with the fire of awareness) 
> 
Snip....
 
Kat, it may help to look at them before you "melt" them. If "They" have come 
forward it gives you the choice of running, pushing it to the side, or 
looking within at what it truly is. And then releasing the fear...
 
The gift of free will is powerful, we make our own reality.
 
Namaste' 
Tom 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:34:41 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? 
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At 04:56 PM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote: 
>Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote: 
>>  
>> At 01:19 AM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote: 
>> >My problem is too 
>> >control my plexus solar chakra 
>>   Why? 
>[[[do you have another solution,i'll love to hear you miss :) ]]] 
  No, I think you misunderstood me.  
  Why do you feel you need to control it?  
   
>> > and need to be cautious and not let our 
>> >past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( ) 
>>   Why?[[[i tought that incontroled lotus chakra have the ability to take 
conscience of our past,our ancient pain and mistake to bite us...it's not 
ok?]]] 
  
  Controlling kundalini is kind of illusion. Goddess controls you, not the 
other way around. The power chakra in the solar plexus is all about Free 
will. When you are afraid that things are not going as they should, the way 
you want them to, it will be painful. Your attempts to exert control will 
be painful. Control is an illusion.  
  If you trust that everything is happening, and has always been happening 
according to Goddess will, then you will be healthy. The mantra for the 
power chakra is "Not my will be done, but Thy will for me. " The chakra is 
fed by counting your blessings, and offering gratitude to Goddess for All 
that Is, whether it is bliss or pain she gives you. Evolution of the Solar 
plexus is about giving up your Free will to Goddess.   
  Yes, allowing the chakra expression, will bring up some issues of the 
past to be resolved. This is Goddess plan. This is the way that Kundalini 
unfolds. Your resistance to the mechanism of this will cause you grief. 
Stop fighting for control.  
   The karma must be allowed to show up so you can use your free will,  to 
choose to give up your free will, and let Goddess take charge of your life. 
Then you will feel forgiveness and the past will be healed.  
  The mistakes can only bite you if you hang onto them with negative 
opinions and judgments of yourself. Forgive yourself, ask for Grace. 
Surrender your judgments, and the karma goes too. Ask for forgiveness then 
you will get it, but trying to hide from your past will not help it to be 
resolved and healed. In the path of kundalini, everything you reject about 
yourself will come back to bite you.. so you can give it love and be 
forgiven the karma.  
   I hope this makes things clearer.  
      Blessings, Mystress.
 
>>   When do you plan to forgive yourself? 
>>  
>> >i hope paul feel good these days. 
>>   I hope everybody feels as Goddess wishes.. 
>>        BB, M. 
>bye :) 
>                 yannick 
> 
> 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:34:33 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Grounded 
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At 05:08 PM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote: 
>yep,that sentence will not let grow me faith in me well miss :) 
>tell me if i'm wrong,but i'm trying to learn.trying to answers question 
>too.maybe,my opinion have shocked you.sorry bout that. 
>miss :) 
>                                                   yannick 
> 
  Do you expect me to hand you faith on a platter? It doesn't work that 
way. You choose to have faith or not, and it has nothing to do with what 
anybody else says or does. I have read all of your strict ideas about 
sexuality and control.. this is the voice of your fear speaking. Fear sez 
you cannot have faith because I did not give you the right words.. but 
faith does not come from words, it comes from the heart.  Your heart. It 
comes from within you. 
   You seek to control your future, in fear you ask "what happens next?" 
What happens next is up to Goddess, not to you. You cannot find Goddess by 
looking into the future. She can be found only in the eternal Now.  
  
  Here is one for you,  reposting private email to the list is considered 
very indiscreet and rude. It is against the list rules to do it, but if you 
had not broken the rules by reposting this letter of mine, then you would 
not know, and you might repost something which someone wanted kept private.  
  For me, I don't care if the list sees it, but I do know that it is a very 
sensitive issue for some people, and they would feel very hurt by if you 
reposted their letter without asking them.  
  Also,  "Snipping", is cutting out most the repeated stuff as I have done, 
here. Folks will appreciate it if you take the time to edit your posts, 
before you send them. I have tried to explain this to you before, but you 
do not understand me. I hope that if someone on the list can explain how to 
do it better, that they will step forward to do so.  
    Blessings, Mystress.
 
 
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