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1998/07/21 05:03
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #526


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 526

Today's Topics:
  RE: Computer Virus Alert [ Dembiak_Jeffery_JATnospambns.att.com ]
  Re: Grounded [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: A Loving Amen [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Re: Mail failure [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  mail failure [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Re: Mail failure:cut that out! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: A Loving Amen [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: A Loving Amen [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: mail failure [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  mail failures [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
  Re: Mail failure:cut that out! [ "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodi ]
  Re: mail failures [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Mail failure:cut that out! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: mail failure [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Re: My bizarre experiences [ SunSaluteATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: Fw: Thank you [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ]
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ matrixATnospamroyaume.com ]
  Question [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
  Re: Fw: Thank you [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
  Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare? [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: Question [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:05:31 -0400
From: Dembiak_Jeffery_JATnospambns.att.com
TO: bc_1ATnospamyahoo.com, besewellATnospampop.gate.net, bwscATnospamhotmail.com,
 Dembiak_Jeffery_JATnospambns.att.com, dlsteelATnospamnuskin.net,
 freefireATnospampacebell.net, jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com, jimATnospamdmv.com,
 JonathonseagulATnospamyahoo.com, keithkozickiATnospamhotmail.com,
 kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, monarchATnospamwctc.net, rain_ldyATnospamyahoo.com,
 rube2sdeATnospamyahoo.com, sadieATnospampdt.net, sfretATnospamjuno.com, ShivaATnospamgte.net,
 SoulfallATnospamhotmail.com, twinnkkyATnospamyahoo.com
Subject: RE: Computer Virus Alert
Message-Id: <H00001e001ac8472ATnospamMHS>
Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="openmail-part-04e47581-00000001"

alas..for once my Windows NT has a good purpose...
J

   -----Original Message-----
   From: jasessions
   Sent: Monday, July 20, 1998 6:05 PM
   To: bc.1; besewell; bwsc; Dembiak, Jeffery J.; dlsteel;
 freefire; jim; Jonathonseagul; keithkozicki; kundalini-l;
 monarch; rain.ldy; rube2sde; sadie; sfret; Shiva;
 Soulfall; twinnkky
   Cc: jasessions
   Subject: FW: Computer Virus Alert
   Importance: High
    
   This one is very real. Please read. This is a memo that the manager
   of
   information systems at my job site sent out to the entire company. I
   thought I would pass it on.
    
   *******
   ----------
    
   Shortly after Windows 98's debut, reports began circulating about new
   strains of a Windows 9x virus that wipes out hard drives. The virus
   was
   first discovered "in the wild" in Taiwan.
    
   The CIH virus infects Windows executable files (EXE files). It does
   not
   infect Word or Excel documents. CIH Works under both Windows 95 and
   Windows 98, but it does not work under Windows NT.
    
   The virus can overwrite system start-up programs, making all data on
   hard disks inaccessible, and destroy the Flash BIOS, rendering the
   computer unbootable. There are two other variants-versions 1.3 and
   1.4,
   which are set to strike on the twenty-sixth of each month.
    
   The IRM Anti-Virus Team has investigated the major Anti-Virus
   Software
   Vendors and there is NO disinfectant for this virus at this time.
    
   Employees should not down load executable files from untrusted
   sources.
    
    
   Virus Software companies are working on a solution for this virus.
    
    
   Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 15:09:12 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "Don Nguyen" <dnguyen_58ATnospamhotmail.com>
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Grounded
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721150912.00ceae94ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  Still working of describing how to do Shaktipat, now ya wanna know about
grounding. :)
  OK.
At 05:43 AM 20/07/98 PDT, Don Nguyen wrote:
>
>1-Why should a person be grounded?
  When you are grounded, you are connected to Source, and fear does not
play a part on your decision making. You act in Love, the love flowing thru
you from Goddess all the time, making your feet tingle.
>2-Should the eye be closed or opened?
  Depending on the level of your awakening, the eye is usually open when
you are grounded, however not in a way so as to get information that will
distract you from your works. It will show you what you need to see, to act
in Love.

>3-Can I continue my meditation after I am grounded??
  All of life is meditation when you are grounded.
  Being grounded will be a blessing on any other kind of meditation you do.

>Thanks
   Yer Welcome.
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 16:27:45 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com>
Cc: "Alan Gaskins <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>;Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
 kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com, starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
Subject: Re: A Loving Amen
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721162745.00cf0d2cATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 08:36 AM 20/07/98 -0700, Wonderer wrote:
>Alan Wrote:
>
> AMEN!!! Mystress has to be thanked as well for her postings re
>Gnostic Christianity!
   heh heh heh.. you were not on the list, back in the old days when I
roasted Christians over a slow fire.. yum yum..:)

>Dear Mystress and Alan,
>
>I had to look into Gnostic Christianity, and still need to know more. It
>certainly seems interesting. I am grateful for the lead.
  Well, Goddess provides.. they are all over the web.. I just did a test
search on Hotbot on Gnostic Christian:
Web Results 3594 matches. Breakdown: Christian 887792, Gnostic 6118

http://www.hotbot.com/?MT=Gnostic+Christian&SM=MC&_v=2&OPs=MDRTP&DE=1&DC=100
&DV=180
   There are whole college courses on comparative religion on the net, at
this time.
  I used to sell Britannica, and one selling point was an outline in the
back that led one thru a thorough study of any subject.. The web is bigger
and better, but not so well organized.
  However, the upside for Kundalites, is that synchronicity has plenty of
elbow room, to play it's magical role in the free-form organization of
link-surfing.

  A quick course in Internet self-study for Kundalites:
  Pick your favorite search engine, mine currently is Hotbot, but I like
Altavista, too. Experiment with the results of different keywords, and save
time by using your back and forward buttons, till you have narrowed your
search down to a few hundred or thousand links, and set the search to
return as many links at once, as possible.. I usually ask for results by
the hundred, with a brief description.
   Bookmark the page with the best search data on it, so you can find your
way back to it after links have dead ended, or if your browser crashes.
  Let your intuition guide your clicks, and work with more than one browser
open at once, so you can look at one while the other is loading. Bookmark
the sites you like best, particularly the ones with good link lists. You
may not always find what you want, but you will find what you need, as the
song goes.
  Keep your discernment open. Just because it's published on a website,
does not mean it is gospel. Decide for yourself. The wonderful thing about
web publishing is that most of the pages have an email address for the
author, who is often happy to discuss your area of interest. Be respectful
of the value of their time.. and offer gratitude for the gift of the site.
  If you find one that is very yummy, send the web address ONLY to the list
with a brief synopsis of the page content. Do not repost the text entire
web pages on the list. This is tough on bandwidth, and an infringement of
copywrite.
  Those who want to read it, can go get it.
  This weekend I was looking for info on the Cathari Heretics, and once
again I was led thru a lot of Vampire roleplaying games, and into a study
of the various illuminati and Masonic movements that shaped the history of
Europe. I was reading an enormous site that seems to have vanished from my
cache. When I find it again I'll post the Url.
  If you have enough juice, you can even get a program called "Webwolf"
that will chase down all the links for you while you sleep, to as many
levels as you like and leave them in your browser cache for you to peruse
at your leisure.
  
>I have been trying to feel my love for God, and I find it is
>difficult to feel love for a nameless, faceless entity.
  Ha.. that is tricky, and so God makes it easier... instead, see God in
every face around you. God is All that Is.
  Or find one face that you love, to practice on.. even if it is a painting
or a photograph.

>I believe this
>is my current life mission. I was meditating on this love for God, and I
>came away with the words "Learn to love yourself and you will love God."
  There ya go. Clear directive. See God in the face in the mirror. Your
face is the face of God. The power to change the world, belongs to the face
in your mirror, and to none other.

>Amen.
>
>Cathy
   Amen, indeed, and Blessed Be!
    Love those mirror faces.. Mystress.
>

>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:42:46 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
Message-ID: <35B39DB6.27BB3FB7ATnospammhonline.net>

Dear Paul,
I got the impression after reading your account about meeting and
shakingpeople of the past,demanding to know where your sister was and
mum taking off that Mother did really leave you and your sister, in the
past. (Not present Mother). Perhaps you were put in charge of having to
raise her and you yourself were only a young child and something
happened that you simply can't forgive your younger past "self" for. The
emotions were just too traumatic back then and maybe there's a "bleed
through" in this lifetime.
Have no idea where this came from, it just came. Hope it's some help.

Blessings,

+ Maureen
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:59:31 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: PostmasterATnospambitbucket.email.dupont.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Mail failure
Message-ID: <35B3A1A3.D396A6AFATnospammhonline.net>

TRY AGAIN???

PostmasterATnospambitbucket.email.dupont.com wrote:
>
> FROM: CONOCOHOU/HOEMAIL1/POSTMASTER
> TO: Maureen Heffernan DATE: 07-20-98
> TIME: 18:57
> SUBJECT: Mail failure
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> [008] Failure delivering user mail due to mailbag contention.
> Mail item was not delivered to:
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Microsoft Mail v3.0 IPM.Microsoft Mail.Note
> From: Maureen Heffernan
> To: kundalini
> Subject: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
> Date: 1998-07-20 19:44
> Priority: 3
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Dear Paul,
> I got the impression after reading your account about meeting and
> shakingpeople of the past,demanding to know where your sister was and
> mum taking off that Mother did really leave you and your sister, in the
> past. (Not present Mother). Perhaps you were put in charge of having to
> raise her and you yourself were only a young child and something
> happened that you simply can't forgive your younger past "self" for. The
> emotions were just too traumatic back then and maybe there's a "bleed
> through" in this lifetime.
> Have no idea where this came from, it just came. Hope it's some help.
>
> Blessings,
>
> + Maureen
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 20:06:27 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: mail failure
Message-ID: <35B3A343.FA17AAEATnospammhonline.net>

Tried twice to send letter to Paul. Any problems there?

Thank you,

+ Maureen
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:00:30 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: PostmasterATnospambitbucket.email.dupont.com, kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721180030.00cf2a80ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 07:59 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>TRY AGAIN??
  Stop it, already!!
  Your posts are getting thru, you are getting a copy back from the list,
yes? These notifications are simply to tell you what members did not
receive it because of problems with their mail system. Delete and ignore.

    If you need more info, feel free to write to me at
kundalini-l-ownerATnospamexecpc.com
 Love and electric blue K. fire, List Mystress.
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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:07:40 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Cc: Wonderer <mrtn74aATnospamProdigy.com>,
 "Alan Gaskins <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>,starjunkyATnospamuswest.net"ATnospamdomin8rex.com
Subject: Re: A Loving Amen
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721180740.00ced7e8ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 04:27 PM 21/07/98 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:
Lemme fix that link..

http://www.hotbot.com/?MT=Gnostic+Christian&SM=MC&_v=2&OPs=MDRTP&DE=1&DC=100
>&DV=180

 The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
     http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
  Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
      Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 18:16:00 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: A Loving Amen
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980721181600.00cdb260ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 06:07 PM 21/07/98 -0700, Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

>Lemme fix that link..
>
  It's a stubborn one..
http://www.hotbot.com/?MT=Gnostic+Christian&SM=MC&_v=2&OPs=MDRTP&DE=1&DC=100
&DV=180

  The website I spent the weekend studying is
    http://home.fireplug.net/~rshand/streams/query.html
  Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:26:18 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: mail failure
Message-ID: <35B3EE38.ADE011DAATnospamwtp.net>

Maureen Heffernan wrote:

> Tried twice to send letter to Paul. Any problems there?

Oh...Maureen, that's almost too good to let slide...but I will. :-)
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 21:55:22 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: mail failures
Message-ID: <35B3BCCA.CFB63B2CATnospammhonline.net>

Dear Mystress,
Having only just begun on the computer in May and being advised on
resending e-mails wasn't sure what to do. Yesterday sent mail to someone
about Ezekiel's wheel but didn't see that. So sorry for the repetitions.
I'm learnin,

Blessings,

+ Maureen
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:13:09 -0400
From: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
To: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>,
 "Mystress Angelique Serpent" <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
Cc: <PostmasterATnospambitbucket.email.dupont.com>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!
Message-ID: <01bdb44d$1b96efc0$485d9cd1ATnospamauthoriu>
Content-Type: text/plain;
 charset="iso-8859-1"

>At 07:59 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>>TRY AGAIN??
> Stop it, already!!
> Your posts are getting thru, you are getting a copy back from the list,
>yes? These notifications are simply to tell you what members did not
>receive it because of problems with their mail system. Delete and ignore.
>

Snip.....<S>

WOW!!!

Now that was some forceful energy.....yep the Crown is still attached.

Namaste'
Tom
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:26:00 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: mail failures
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980720192600.00cee8ccATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  No problem. Now you know more.
   Blessings, Mystress.

At 09:55 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>So sorry for the repetitions.
>I'm learnin,
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:24:35 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: "THOMAS SMITH" <WHITEKNIGHT11ATnospamprodigy.net>
Cc: <morlightATnospammhonline.net>, <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Mail failure:cut that out!
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980720192435.00cf29c0ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

At 10:13 PM 20/07/98 -0400, THOMAS SMITH wrote:
>>At 07:59 PM 20/07/98 +0000, Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>>>TRY AGAIN??
>> Stop it, already!!

>WOW!!!
>
>Now that was some forceful energy.....yep the Crown is still attached.
>
>Namaste'
>Tom
   You are funny.. next time I'll blow it wide open..:)
     Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 19:18:53 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: mail failure
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980720191853.00cd3ba4ATnospammail.fantasycorp.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

  But you didn't.. but it was funny...:)
   
At 07:26 PM 20/07/98 -0600, nancy wrote:
>Maureen Heffernan wrote:
>
>> Tried twice to send letter to Paul. Any problems there?
>
>Oh...Maureen, that's almost too good to let slide...but I will. :-)
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1998 22:32:29 EDT
From: SunSaluteATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <759db415.35b3fdbeATnospamaol.com>

I think something that might shed light on the question of whether or not evil
ultimately serves the Light is the idea that evil may very well serve God's
will, and that God's will is frequently at odds with our individual (and
usually quite small) visions of happiness.

Evil no doubt has the capacity to harm the small individual--but ultimately
the Soul or Higher Self is eternal, and at worst the Soul can only be delayed
in its growth, never killed outright. This thought may give little comfort to
the individual ego, whose physical body may very well be painfully destroyed
in the process.

We must all learn the hard lesson, however, that the Universe is not meant to
serve the individual ego. It is we who must serve the Universe--including
learning how to deal with adversity; the more of us who learn to be selfless,
the less "evil" there will be. We must learn to see not through our own eyes,
but through the (Third) Eye of the Cosmos.

I agree with the idea that the greater the light, the greater the shadow.
Privelege usually confers upon its owner greater ability, and greater ability
comes attached with greater responsibility. Those who are initiated are
granted a wider range of vision--which includes a greater ability to see evil,
which comes with a greater responsibility to "battle" it.

I put battle in quotation marks because the advanced soul is one who can be
peace under *all* circumstances. To be a spiritual warrior is to cease all
resistance
and struggle--to guide with an open hand rather than a clenched fist--even as
the demon stares you in the face.

Peace,
Anthony
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 00:28:37 -0400
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Thank you
Message-ID: <35B418F5.2EDBF3E5ATnospammail.snet.net>

Kat wrote:

> The reason I call them demons is because they infringe on my right to my own
> choices.

Only you can choose to allow your choice to be infringed upon.

> I hear them but I do not see them. I feel them like a wave of
> cold ice.

Think warm. Melt them.
(with the fire of awareness)

> I have been told the same thing and I can sense my guardian spirits are
> trying to get through the darkness to help me out.

The darkness that seems to isolate you from your Guardian has no real effect.
(Though you may confuse a piece of rope for a snake.)You
can choose to experience distance from your Guardian yet you are always
connected.

Blessings of Light,
David
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 01:19:11 +0200
From: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
To: morlightATnospammhonline.net
Cc: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
Message-Id: <35B3D06F.25C2ATnospamroyaume.com>

> emotions were just too traumatic back then and maybe there's a "bleed
> through" in this lifetime.
> Have no idea where this came from, it just came. Hope it's some help.
>
> Blessings,
>
> + Maureen
i think paul life some many similar things as me.My problem is too
control my plexus solar chakra and need to be cautious and not let our
past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( )
i hope paul feel good these days.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:56:20 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Question
Message-Id: <199807210554.RAA24824ATnospamsmtp1.ihug.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi

I am wonder if some "feel" anything about the word "knighttemplars".
I am not talking about the guys in the medieval times. I have been
searching for information, but nothing I find on them satisfies me or
sounds right.

Charan
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 17:48:06 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: "Kat" <KCliffordATnospamodyssey.on.ca>, <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Fw: Thank you
Message-Id: <199807210554.RAA24817ATnospamsmtp1.ihug.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

>The reason I call them demons is because they infringe on my right to my own
>choices.
I am not sure why you think this, but You alone can control your "destiny"
or your actions, others will/can only control your actions if you
consiousciously allow them to. This applies right through the spectrum, to
other humans or spirits or demons.

> I hear them but I do not see them.
Different people and more aware in different ways, some people hear them,
some people see them, some people simply know them. ie. clearaudience,
clearvioent,clearsensient.
Then some people have all of the above or some of the above.
for example I know ie. aware of them around me, but somethimes I can see them.

>I feel them like a wave of cold ice.
that would be differnt forms of energies. some guides are warm some guides
are cold energy. note this does not reflect weather they are evil or good.
for example in meditation some people get VERY hot even though they are in
a cold room.
where as others freeze!
I can relate well to this because since I was very young I have been
wondering why my hands are always freezing, I have had medical checkups,
etc. but no science could explain it. The same goes for my feet.
Also different people have differnt energies just like spirit member we
also have cold and hot energies.
I know for a fact anyone who is sensitive to energies can feel a cold
breeze pass through them if they look at me(I hope it is not a reflection
of me being a very cold person!!! As far as I have been told I am a kind
person(nice guys finish last!)).
If the cold becomes unbearable you can always ask your guides to put some
distance between you, this will ease the cold a bit.
> I am not sure whether they wish to harm me.
This is how I understand it, we all have auras. in the spirit world(s) our
aura acts just like a shield. So any demons are trying to get in they will
hit against a solid barrier. As far as I know only your guardian is able to
"approach" you, and he/she will only allow others to approach you if they
come with unconditional love for you and want to help you.
unless ofcourse you are ready to learn about "further" things, but what
ever happens your guardian(s) will protect you.

>Sometimes it feels
>like some of them would and other times it feels like they are just trying
>to help me.
rule of thumb negative attracts negative, positive attracts positive.
unless you are totally negative you cannot attract lower planer entities,
even then you have friends and guides to protect you.

> I sense them around me but I never see them. The voices can be
>different. Sometimes it sounds like my own voice! or at least the way I
>think my voice sounds.
if you can verbally hear them they you are doing much better than me!:)
in order for them to communicate with you they will have to tune to your
vibrations, sort of like tuning a radio to find the radio station, so
before you can tune to the radio station loud and clear you get the hazzly
cracles!

>To say much more I am afraid the group might think
>that they have found a real crack pot in their mists! :-(
That makes two:)

>Already gifted
>people have sent light to send them away but it has never worked and from
>what I am told this is very strange.
How can light destroy or frieghten light? How can love destroy love?
Only those who come in love can approach you.
It might pay to ask them to identify themselves, or demand then to explain
why they are here.
If you can hear them, then can you not hear their answer?

>I have been told the same thing and I can sense my guardian spirits are
>trying to get through the darkness to help me out.
I want to say something here but I cannot find the words.

>I have one that is an
>eagle. Whenever I hear its wings I know that I am being protected.
>Whenever I see the eagle it is usually a warning that there is a dangerous
>sitution taking place that I must handle. One of the last times I saw it
>in this way my daughter was being attacked by black magic. I sent her Light
>to protect her and she had in her hand a crystal that I had given her for
>protection. Light came from this crystal and protected her from the person
>that was trying to harm her. She told me she saw the exact colours that I
>had been sending to her. I should also mention that later that night I also
>had help from a teacher that I asked for help from. I have seen my eagle
>spirit since but it has only been there to let me know that I am not alone.
>
You are blessed with a daughter you can share with:)

I have to be honest here and say I do not understand what you mean by black
magic, I know people talk about it and stuff, but I can not comprehend it.
I believe that I walk in light and nothing can harm me. The common flu
tends to disapear over night,etc. as much as I enjoy "demonbashing".

charan(your 23yr old nut)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:01:18 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: morlightATnospammhonline.net, kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: Paul West - -a dream/nightmare?
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At 01:19 AM 21/07/98 +0200, matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
>My problem is too
>control my plexus solar chakra
  Why?
> and need to be cautious and not let our
>past eat us.(mine is heavy,i did many error :( )
  Why?
  When do you plan to forgive yourself?

>i hope paul feel good these days.
  I hope everybody feels as Goddess wishes..
BB, M.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1998 02:21:17 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Question
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At 05:56 PM 21/07/98 +1200, Siva wrote:
>Hi
>
>I am wonder if some "feel" anything about the word "knighttemplars".
>I am not talking about the guys in the medieval times.
>Charan
  Been reading about those Medieval guys all weekend.. they are still
around..
    http://www.kingmere.demon.co.uk/SMOTJ/today.html

   BB, M.

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