1998/07/19 12:26
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #522
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 522
Today's Topics:
Elaine Tirrell [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Ron Grimes- astrology [ Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonlin ]
Re: Meaning of Life / Soul [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
Re: Street Sense [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
[Fwd: Re: FW: AutoPost from Kundalin [ w van der linde <wliATnospamxs4all.nl> ]
Peacemakers [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
Re: throat chakra [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
Re: Healing [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
Re: re-birth? [ "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmai ]
just joined the list [ F19AshATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:33:26 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Elaine Tirrell
Message-ID: <35B1A146.344E5FD1ATnospammhonline.net>
Good morning,
Wanted to share this with you after we spoke of reaching a point of
being "in love" with God as the higher chakras are becoming more active
and the activity more mystical. Not sure where to send this??AT work
ok??or through this mailing list. Which do you prefer? I wrote this many
years ago but it does seem to be timeless. Enjoy.
Blessings,
+Maureen
(From a sentence that a cow would think of their god in grass and
a lion in meat.}
The specially altered and hidden plant in me needs Your specially
altered and hidden sunshine, lest I die,
My soil asks for Your Precious drops of rain or else I spit apart,
crumble and can bear no fruit.
I also beg for the extraordinary drops of dew that envelope my emotions
with their grace-filled water.
The roots of my being rejoice in the hard minerals of Your always
present and future history.
The leaves of my nightly thoughts cry out for the moonbeams of Your
revelations.
My long spindly growth of temptations is stopped and my stalk firmer,
stronger.
The little offshoots of my works depend on this You in me.
Through the Wind of the Holy Spirit, my seeds will drop to the soil of
my children and You shall be multiplied.
Only then can I flower. In only this way do I have the sweet fragrance.
And then Lord, as You walk in the field of Your Kingdom, bend and pick
me. Break my stalk from my roots, for I shall indeed yet live.
Take me home with You to color one of the many rooms in Your Father's
Mansion.
And when I die Lord ---if I have become beautiful enough---press me
---between the folds of Your Heart.
(From the book "Above the Catskills" by Maureen Heffernan
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:47:59 +0000
From: Maureen Heffernan <morlightATnospammhonline.net>
To: kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Ron Grimes- astrology
Message-ID: <35B1A4AF.C0223D66ATnospammhonline.net>
Dear Ron,
If you have the time time wouldn't it be interesting to study the fire
signs,(houses, aspects) of those particular charts and see if the
"DIVINE DISCONTENT" idea pops up. The "drive", creative fire etc.???The
A. Baily esoteric and H.P.Blavatsky material is outstanding! I've seen
the charts of many saints and the placement of the Cardinal Cross in
those.
Recommend a book on your slant of it?
Tanks,
Namaste~ and Blessings,
+Mor
Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 07:32:33 PDT
From: "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
Subject: Re: Meaning of Life / Soul
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>If you were a speck, on the surface of a vast galaxy, controlled by
nothing
>but insticts given to you by forces you never will understand. Can you
still
>achieve greatness?
>
>If you make a doghouse, is it merely certain pieces of certain matter,
held
>together by so many forces that it is innumerable, arranged in a
specific
>order to serve a purpose to our needs, in the end is it just a doghouse
or
>something else?
>
>If you lead the horse to water and it will not drink, what would be any
>different if you lead the horse to heaven?
>
>Just Thinking,
>Kristin
>
>
If you went to the Air and Space Museum, and there was nothing
there but air and space, would you, should you, be surprised?
Thinking allowed,
Namaste
Alan
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 08:26:12 PDT
From: "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, david.bozziATnospamsnet.net
Subject: Re: Street Sense
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>Orea wrote:
>
>> I knew a gifted psychic who thought he didn't have to lock up his
house
>> because that would show lack of faith in his protection. Guess what?
>> An angry former associate knew his schedule, brought a couple of
strong
>> cohorts and robbed him blind, stole his computer and all of his
mailing
>> lists, a large sum of cash he left in the desk drawer even though he
had
>> a safe, etc.
>
>Perhaps he had doubts?
>
>> Faith has its place but nothing can replace common sense and simple
>> precautions.
>
>David
>(chaining the camel to the post)
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...and "faith without works is dead" takes on a new layer of
meaning, as Truth inevitably does, in its marvelous, spiraling way, for
also the reverse would be true, works without faith is dead. Part of
faith is f_inding a_nswers i_n t_he h_eart, but faith is a verb, so in
the head applies too!? - Sorry, I'm about to go off on my own little
Gnostic Spiral, I'll hush-for now- NAMASTE!
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 16:36:24 +0200
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> How shall I begin? A bit of background perhaps. I am a student at HSU,
> and am in the long tedious studies of physics major/ applied
> mathematics. Although I am of scientic mind, I am also an artist. Unlike
are u aware of the fact that science appllies quantum mechanics to the
brain
quantum mechanics can explain paranormal science! a good books on that
subject
is the quamtum self by danah zohar. If u search on the internet over
quantum brain u get many matches.
one of my numerous attempts to move the compass needle that I was in
> total concentration, and was breathing or rather panting that I felt a
you did meditate on the needle!
it's a classical way to awaken kundalini.
> burst of energy rush from my spine burning its way to the crown of my
> head, I felt a tremendous heat and actually caused the back of my skull
> to feel as if it had been clamped in a vise. This surge of hot energy,
> for lack of a better term, crept over my crown and around my head like a
> band around my cranium, and tingled into my face. It felt like nothing
> I had ever felt, It was like an electrical current and yet it felt more
> like swarms of insects were crawling beneath my skin, I felt as if my
> hair were standing on end-like I was grasping a Van de Graff generator.
> My breathing became very rhythmic and seemed to have a life of its own.
> The energy worked its way up my spine over my head and into my face and
> down into the core of my body spreading out into my hands and legs-I
> felt a centralizing in my palms of the energy. Afer the energy reached
> the top of my head, I felt a feeling of euphoria, I felt like superman
> and had unquenchable thirst and hunger. Scared that I was experiencing
> some kind of hyperventalation I finally managed to break rhythmic
> breathing and stop whatever it was-it took a few moments for the intense
> tingling to subside. Afterwards I was quite sure what the hell I had
> experienced-I honestly figured I was beginning to hyperventalate and
> suffer from an over accumulation of carbon dioxide.
> It wasn't until I had read quite a bit further in that book,
> that I realized it perhaps may have been Kundalini-whatever that was. I
> have since gone through controlled rhythmic breathing experiments, and
> have experpienced many strange things: highthened awareness, slowing
> down of the sense of time, many coincidental experiences or synchronous
> events. And the strangest yet a monthly cycle, around each quarter moon,
> of activity beginning at the base of my spine whether I intiate it
> I had experience with the power of the moon too. It was in the
> Middle of a heavy kundalini experience. I had great problems
> To stay "grounded' eathing. This is many times awakened during the
> appropriate time in the month by intense running water like that ran
> when taking a bath-before you ever climb into the tub. This sometimes is
> so strong that I can feel the energy of the water swirling as it is
> being drawn from the facet. I also have had many a time when I hear a
> particularly striking piece of music and the Kundalini is awakened this
> happens any time of the month. It is at its heighth, though around
> quarter moons and sometimes full moons.
> I'm sorry, did you say that you have had experiences with the lunar
> cycles as well? If you did tell me more, I would be very much interested
> in hearing what you have to say. I have a feeling that there is a
> definite connection with the lunar cycles-especially since the moon
> effects the tides even more than the sun. I also feel that water somehow
> influences kundalini, or at least it seems to, in my case. Write me and
> tell me what you have experienced and what your thoughts are on the
> subject.
Kundalini starts at the muladhara chakra and then rises trough the
sushumna
nadi. Hiroshi Motoyama says in his book theories of the chakras that
there
is a clear correspondence between the governor vessel meridian and the
sushumna.
Mantak chia has written many books about the tao system which rely on
kundalini
awakening through the meridian system, so it became clear to me that the
chakra
nadi system and the chinese meridian system have a close correspondence.
In the old chinese view matter has 5 states of matter of aggregation.
these states are fire,earth,metal,water and wood. Again to this theory
there is a corresponce between the mooncycles and these 5 states of
matter.
for instance full moon correspond to fire(kundalini) and new moon
correspond
to water. The transformation energy through the meridians also
correspond with
the 5 states of matter. Kundalini does flow through the meridians and is
influenced
by the mooncycles according to old chinese theory.
Date: 19 Jul 98 17:16:59 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Peacemakers
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Judy,
Do you ever feel like you are a peacemaker? Like, you're always trying
to keep things in harmony and keep things settled? Do you feel that
you can't handle it when things are seriously wrong, and that fires up
sometimes a strong sense of justice in you?
It's just that it seems that in our worshipping of other people and
our trying to keep everyone happy we're sort of also fulfilling some
higher role as keeping the peace. Do you ever think of it in that way?
--
Paul.
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:29:52 PDT
From: "Alan Gaskins" <alan_gaskinsATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Just a question...
> When I feel K energy coursing through my body, both my mate and
myself can
>feel energy emanating from every chakra except the throat. I feel that
it is
>bloked and, furthermore, that it is some sort of an emotional
>block...something that I cannot (or will not, more likely :) ) let go.
I'm
>not sure what the block is, specifically. Does anyone have some
insight into
>such a block?
> Thanks in advance,
> ~~~Judy
>
>
I have had a similar experience on occasion. What works well for
me is ANY form of creative vocal expression -
singing,screaming,chanting,reading aloud,etc. I of course visualize
light purifying the center in question,and asking it what it needs to
express. My blockage was due to issues I felt I could not convey due to
their "rocking the boat" ambience. 'Course Spirit soon reminded me HEY!
IT IS YOUR DAM BOAT - ROCK IT! (how else will you feel the ocean). Also
known as how to maintain complete control by completely losing it -
(smile)- NAMASTE
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>
>" There in the air I was forming the letter 8, in pure blue
>light, kind of like bending a neon tube. "
>
>>Charan
>
>Dear Charan,
>
>Have you seen the blue neon lettering before? I have seen it as the
>color of verbal thoughts printed in the astral realm, or the bardo,
>or "wherever" I was before this incarnation. It was a plane of
>light. (Thoughts are not private there.) Also, on occasion, I have
>had bursts of "intuition", or knowledge, which I have seen as the
>light blue neon lettering, appear in the "air" before me. When I see
>this, it is rare, but I know it is some sort of psychic experience.
>I do not know what the significance of the letter 8 is, but I once
>read something; I think that it implies continuity.
>
>Welcome to the list!
>
>Cathy
>
>
>
yes. the figure 8 is also a representation of the endless loop of
infinity. the whole scenario seems to be a message re eternal life, but
that's just my opinion - I could be wrong...Alan
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>Dear Ladychristos,
>
>I love your name I had to find out for sure if you ment by it what
I
>thought you ment by it. I Love Jesus hes my partner theres no
better.
>I would like to commend you on your bravery of speaking about Jesus
with
>everyone and I'd like to thank you. I have a hard time sometimes
speaking
>what I feel when it comes to the man. I think I may just be affraid of
>people sometimes. Once again good job.
>
>~ Love and Happieness
>Aimee
>
>
AMEN!!! Mystress has to be thanked as well for her postings re
Gnostic Christianity! I personally tried for years to get away from my
fundamentalist "ruts", but the more I studied other beliefs, the more I
realized that for me, Eshoo, ("Jesus" in Aramaic), was in fact perhaps
the greatest Mystic - in the sense of the Oneness fo all things - of all
"time". At any rate, I think we can agree that he and orthodox
"Christianity" may not be as close as some would like to preach.
By the way, why are the words fun and mental in fundamental when
they tend to be neither? - sorry Alan
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Date: Sun, 19 Jul 1998 15:00:29 EDT
From: F19AshATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com (kundalini)
Subject: just joined the list
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alright...i originally sent this to one person...hopefully i have it right
this time!
well this might be off your subject a bit, but i too began as Roman Catholic,
going to a Catholic grade school/junior high. (and HS...but that was ok.)
The people in the school were downright mean to me because i was a little shy
and not a pretty as others, cause i was a late bloomer. I had a written
vision in 8th grade and was awakened to the spiritual side of things...just a
few days ago i was introduced to kundalini through someone in a chat room and
it seemed to go along with a lot of things in my vision, and when i revealed
some of it to him, he agreed. Well, by looking over things that people have
talked about in this group through e-mail, im beginning to think i shouldnt go
any farther with my inquiry into this bizarre energy that can have a "life of
its own". It seems very dangerous to me. Meditation is important i believe,
but in moderation when it feels right, even. Then again i may be adressing
the kundalini when i meditate. Tell me, what exactly is the difference?
Also, are there any groups for this sort of thing in the Seattle area?
Thanx....love and light, blessed be!
Emily
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