1998/07/17 14:12
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #518
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 518
Today's Topics:
Re: My bizarre experiences [ starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive D [ "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamco ]
Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive D [ MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com ]
Re: not for fragile hearth. [ starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
For Tim Mulligan [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
Re: My bizarre experiences [ Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com ]
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 02:53:59 -0600
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Mulligan, Tim wrote:
> First of all, I want to thank Jeff Jackson for introducing me to
> this list. I hope I can receive some guidance from some of you kundalini
> veterans.
>
> Let me give you some background. I started out Roman Catholic.
> But I became interested in the occult at a very young age (about 9). By 16,
> I decided to return to the Church on my own. (My family had stopped
> attending.) I became a very religious Catholic, and soon planned to become
> a priest. But I was rejected twice by religious orders, once when I was 17,
> and again at the end of college. Both times, I was told that, on the basis
> of psychological testing, I would not make a good priest.
>
> I went to law school instead, and gradually my new critical skills
> began eroding my Catholic faith. I turned back to my old interest (the
> occult), but soon began to look at Buddhism. I couldn't bring myself to
> believe in reincarnation or karma, so I drifted to Taoism. And from Taoism
> I progressed to Krishnamurti. Finally, by age 32, I became an atheist of
> the scientistic type.
>
> But last year, at the age of 33, I felt called again to the
> spiritual. Amazingly, I joined the Baha'I Faith, but my stay with them was
> very brief; I found that they are the spiritual equivalent of Amway. By
> August of 1997, I needed another spiritual path. I searched the Internet
> and came across something called the Fourth Way. I investigated it, found
> that the Gurdjieff Foundation had a branch right here in Houston, and by
> September, I was attending their meetings.
>
> I know from your page that you are somewhat familiar with Gurdjieff,
> so I'll just tell you what I experienced. They meet once a week. Each
> meeting begins with a "sitting." The sitting is a kind of meditation. It
> involves scanning, sensing, the body part by part. Sensing one's physical
> body. It lasts for about 30 minutes. At the meeting, the sitting is guided
> by the leader. We were expected to sit at home each morning on our own.
>
> Beginning in late September, I followed this advice precisely. I
> was very attentive at the meetings. We were told that we would eventually
> receive a flow of energy beginning at the top of the head, moving down the
> spine, coming up the front through the genital area and up the chest and the
> face. By November, I began to experience this flow. I was told that this
> was *very* early for a beginner; the average length of time for this to
> start, I was told, was after about 5 years of practice. I was thrilled and
> amazed. My scientistic atheism was definitely out the window. But then
> something bizarre started.
>
> By the end of November, invisible hands began caressing me, touching
> me. They would touch my back, my head, my face. It was uncanny. I thought
> that these were spiritual helpers of some kind. They started to direct my
> movements, sometimes gently (always gently) lifting me to a standing
> position, moving my head to one side or back, etc. When I would go through
> periods of receiving the energy (and these periods could last for several
> hours), the hands often came. Then, they started some kind of construction
> project on me. They injected some kind of material into my forehead
> (apparently, my "third eye" had opened by now). They sprinkled and then
> spread some kind of material on my back and legs. I told my group leader
> about being "under construction" but she didn't have much to say about it.
>
> Things got more complicated in December. In addition to the hands,
> I was visited by what I can only describe as "creatures". They seemed like
> a sort of animal. They would glom onto my legs and bite my toes!! At this
> point, I figured that all was not well. These creatures came mostly at
> night, and especially when I went to bed. I would feel something like a hot
> blob, very large, sucking on my leg, and along with that sensation there
> would be the biting of my toes. I figured that these were some kind of
> creature from another dimension, feeding off of me. I was strangely
> accepting of it. It didn't freak me out that much, because at the time I
> thought this just went with spiritual advancement - an occupational hazard.
> The creatures would also bite the top of my head. And other creatures,
> which seemed somehow different, would sort of lick my face.
>
> At the end of December, things took a turn for the worse. The
> hands, or at least *some* hands, actually began to sexually manipulate me.
> They were jerking me off. It was absolutely unmistakable. I also felt like
> some kind of suction apparatus at times was affixed to my penis, and that
> something like a very thin catheter was being inserted into my penis. While
> this was happening, I kind of joked to myself, "Okay, when do I get the
> rectal probe?" Because this reminded me very much of what UFO abductees
> describe.
>
> After this, the hands became more obtrusive and obnoxious. For
> instance, when I got on a plane to fly back to Texas, they poked me in the
> ass. Stuff like that. When I would have my periods of energy flow, they
> would put their arm around my neck to block the flow, or put a hand under my
> chin to divert the flow.
>
> I left a few things out of this account. One was the fact that the
> "entities" created some kind of electrical "plug" on my back that they would
> occasionally tap into, creating a kind of buzzing sensation there. The
> other thing was that they installed some kind of living thing, like a big
> worm, inside my torso. This living thing would move around inside of me.
> Fortunately, I don't experience either of these phenomena anymore.
>
> After Christmas, I was quite sure that my little friends were not
> angels from God. When I got back to Houston, I told my group leader about
> them in great detail. She said that this was all beyond her experience, and
> suggested I speak to the leader that came from New York once a month. When
> I talked to him in mid-January, he told me I needed to see a psychiatrist,
> and that my experiences had nothing to do with "the Work."
>
> I did see a psychiatrist, and I continue to see one. I don't
> believe that these visitations are the product of psychosis, but the
> resulting depression and anxiety do require psychiatric care. I've been
> prescribed antipsychotics, and I take them, but it's just to "cover my
> bets."
>
> After my conference with the Big Cheese from New York, I went into a
> mild panic. I felt very isolated. I broke off contact with the Gurdjieff
> Foundation and stopped "sitting." My experiences were too real to write
> off. And the fact that I had been fine until I started this meditation was
> just too much of a coincidence.
>
> Eventually, I stopped feeling the hands. But up until very
> recently, I still felt something walking around on my bed, particularly at
> night. (I used to be able to feel both my little friends and the creatures
> approaching me when I sat on the bed - I felt the mattress being pressed
> down, although I never *saw* it go down.) Also, the energy stopped flowing.
> However, I still feel a constant movement at the top of my head. It simply
> will not go away.
>
> One more thing I should mention. This is the only experience I'm
> unsure about. One afternoon in December, during the thick of things, I was
> home and decided to open my blinds to let the sun in. I usually keep them
> down. After awhile, I noticed across the courtyard of my apartment building
> a man standing there, perfectly straight, and staring directly at me into my
> apartment across the courtyard. He was in his 30's, bearded, and wore a
> poncho (who wears ponchos these days? :-) ). All I can say is, you had to
> be there. His stare went right through me. At first I tried to ignore it.
> Finally, I approached my window. At that point, this gentleman turned to
> his right like a robot, and robotically walked away. I never saw him before
> and I haven't seen him since. I'm not sure what to make of this experience.
> My current theory is that either he was some kind of possessed person sent
> to "greet" me, or he was an apparition.
>
> So what do you think? At this point, I'm not sure what to do.
>
> I'm looking again for a spiritual path. I approached the Gurdjieff
> Foundation again last month, but they seem to think it's a better idea if I
> stay away. It seems that my experiences don't fit into their world view.
> (The New York leader told me that *I* was transforming the energy I was
> receiving into these forms.) I keep telling God that He needs to somehow
> compensate me for what happened to me before I approach Him again; I want an
> explanation and some assurances from Him. I feel like I can't trust God or
> any kind of meditation technique after all this. I feel like this is all
> some silly game.
>
> I'm also concerned about the constant movement at the top of
> my head. >Since November, when the energy flow started for me, I have
> experienced
> >a constant feeling of movement and pressure at the top of the head,
> down
> >to my forehead. It is a mixture of localized and more generalized
> >sensations. Sometimes it feels like drumming fingers, sometimes it
> >feels like a web being pressed down on my scalp, and sometimes it
> feels
> >like a tingling. I would like it to stop, since I don't appear to
> be
> >deriving any benefit from this whatsoever in terms of my spiritual
> life. Is this my crown chakra? My psychiatrist is treating it as if it
> were a hallucination.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim Mulligan
> TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu <mailto:TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu>
>
> P.S. The Gurdjieff people teach that kundalini is a VERY BAD THING. They
> teach that the direction of energy should be down into the head, down the
> back and up the front, and that kundalini energy is backwards, wrong, and
> keeps people from developing spiritually. Don't shoot the messenger! I'm
> just explaining their teaching. Right now, I'm completely agnostic about
> which way the energy should flow.
Hi Tim,
Well I dont mean to scare you but it sounds to me like you may have the mark of
the beast in your forehead. DO NOT allow these things to malest you. In the
physical world would you let someone malest you for what they may give you.
There obviously bad entitys trying to live thru you. Dont do any more
meditation dont do anything. If you want my advice You go streight to the
closest catholic church and tell them and let them pray over you and mabey
release you from the demonic attachment. Id suggest another church but Ive
only heard of catholics releasing demonds from people. It sounds to me that
your mind gets changed very easy. This may be how they found a hole to get
into you by. I believe in God and Jesus and I dont need any one or thing to
back up my belief . They save me everyday. You need to take a stand and not
let yourself get minipulated. When they come I suggest having a bible by your
bed and mabey even sleeping with it. When they come say " I rebuke you satin,
The lord Jesus is my savior and believe it. You may start a small tornado in
your room but be strong.
This is my suggestion.
Hopeing you to find what you need.
Love and LIGHT
Aimee
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:36:00 -0400
From: "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com>
To: k-list <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive Disorder
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Nancy Wrote:
>>
I have never viewed kundalini as something that can be used or evoked at
will. My view is that kundalini is dormant or awake. Once it wakes up,
it gets to work clearing up all the icky stuff still attached to us
(overly inflated self-image, materialistic priority, manipulative
interactions) until it's job is complete. Meanwhile, the incredible
energy raises our vibrations so we can awaken to the joy of spiritual
awareness. I have never seen it as something that can be turned off once
awake.
I really do believe that it's blocking the spiritual clensing that
causes people the pain and feelings of craziness. We let the energy rise
only so far and then we put up resistence. Once stopped, the pressure
mounts. The energy won't finish its job unless we consent. Rather, it
remains stuck which builds pressure within us. That's how I see it,
anyway.
>>
Hi Nancy, You may have just clarified something for me, It may well
be that once awakened K is always present, It may be a matter
of degree - either my awareness of it or it's level of activity.
I find that now with no effort the 'tingle' rushes up my spine
and into my head causing me to reel and experience the same
thing that happens if you use Mystress's grounding technique.
It seems to me that this is when K is very active. (At other times
if it is active it is very quiet about it.) This is what I mean by turning
it 'on' and 'off'.
If I do this too often my life soon becomes difficult. It is as
though I have to 'pay for' the wonderful blissful experience
and the cost for it is 'ego pain'. I feel as though when it is active
it feels great but is setting me up for a fall.
I wish that someone with the proper skills could look inside me and
tell me if things are right or wrong.
A Question for Mystress: What is the 'mirror game' and how does one 'play'
it?
Ever humble, with still a lot to learn,
Chuck
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:45:59 EDT
From: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
To: ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: Kundalini and Manic Depressive Disorder
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Chuck wrote:
<< A Question for Mystress: What is the 'mirror game' and how does one 'play'
it? >>
This is when you look *softly* into a mirror (sort of letting your eyes go out
of focus yet you still see your reflection). You can see your other selves
this way.
~~~Judy
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 03:17:15 -0600
From: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: not for fragile hearth.
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matrixATnospamroyaume.com wrote:
> i need some more information and seek answers about what we have done,
> if it's bad or good.
Did you ever have a time when you felt that a decision was laid upon your
heart to be good or bad. Did you ever make a choice ? You do have a
choice... If you choose to Love all life and not manipulate people things
or life your pretty much good but it is whats held in your heart that
you'll be judged on.
> kundalini praticing refering in fact to the eden garden(some many other
> religion could refering to other that too)
> the 7th seal of apocalypse and the 7th chakra and the 7th heaven(in
> term):
I think that this spontaneous awakening of everybody is the 7th seal. The
one that God told them not to write it down in the bible. I think and
once a gain this is my personal opinion that this is the 2nd coming of
Christ. The time is now so it is written. You have the choice to be on
which ever side your heart says to go. If you have doubt pray cause non
of us here can tell you if your good or bad . I dont think we have a
choice if were to be awakened or not. Its what is happening in evelution.
The choice is which side do you choose to give your energies to.
> there two snake on the "colone veterbral" one goes up,one goes down(like
> the vein in the human body)
> so,the energie can be stimulated by the sexual act with the kundalini
> pratice stimulating all the 7 chakra.
> 7th heaven,the strong way to force the enlightment of yourself.
> at the the extasis,you liberate that energie trough the crown chakra
> and goes down into your earth(body) if you don't folow some strict rules
> about practicing that.so in that way,you reverse the pole of the energie
> you got in meditation to strengment your wisdom.
> it refering to the 7th seal.
> but it's not the the end of the world of your life.
I think its the end of the world walking in darkness. I believe in a 100
years for sure it'll be back to heaven on earth. Were just the beginning.
> so,who write the bible,why? i don't believe unlogical things and
> uncorean things without reason.
You know who wrote the bible. A few witnesses just like yourself but the
savior was there in flesh to erase all doubt so it could be written for us
.
> gofi chrishna told that the kundalini praticing without being leaded,are
> the commun problem of our society.
> it's simple,you have to chose between,pay now or pay later by
> love/sacrifice your ego or pay to got tourment by the live.
> it's a dual between your ago and your faith(or spirit)
> if anyone could report what they discovered about that and what their
> opinion please i want to hear what you think about.
> cause i believe that we are things and discoverd the same things coming
> from nowhere(or not so far,our thrue nature?)
> thanks,trought the time,you will earn liberation(love)
> yannick
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 15:48:23 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
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Subject: For Tim Mulligan
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Tim,
I've had similar experiences all my life, and they terrified me for a
number of years, until I learned some valuable lessons. I don't have
your email address, so drop me a line at lady_hawkeATnospamlycosmail.com. I
think I can help.
love,
JoAnn (ladychrisots)
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Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Mulligan, Tim wrote:
> First of all, I want to thank Jeff Jackson for
introducing me to
> this list. I hope I can receive some guidance from some of
you kundalini
> veterans.
>
> Let me give you some background. I started out Roman
Catholic.
> But I became interested in the occult at a very young age
(about 9). By 16,
> I decided to return to the Church on my own. (My family had
stopped
> attending.) I became a very religious Catholic, and soon
planned to become
> a priest. But I was rejected twice by religious orders, once
when I was 17,
> and again at the end of college. Both times, I was told that,
on the basis
> of psychological testing, I would not make a good priest.
>
> I went to law school instead, and gradually my new
critical skills
> began eroding my Catholic faith. I turned back to my old
interest (the
> occult), but soon began to look at Buddhism. I couldn't bring
myself to
> believe in reincarnation or karma, so I drifted to Taoism.
And from Taoism
> I progressed to Krishnamurti. Finally, by age 32, I became an
atheist of
> the scientistic type.
>
> But last year, at the age of 33, I felt called again
to the
> spiritual. Amazingly, I joined the Baha'I Faith, but my stay
with them was
> very brief; I found that they are the spiritual equivalent of
Amway. By
> August of 1997, I needed another spiritual path. I searched
the Internet
> and came across something called the Fourth Way. I
investigated it, found
> that the Gurdjieff Foundation had a branch right here in
Houston, and by
> September, I was attending their meetings.
>
> I know from your page that you are somewhat familiar
with Gurdjieff,
> so I'll just tell you what I experienced. They meet once a
week. Each
> meeting begins with a "sitting." The sitting is a kind of
meditation. It
> involves scanning, sensing, the body part by part. Sensing
one's physical
> body. It lasts for about 30 minutes. At the meeting, the
sitting is guided
> by the leader. We were expected to sit at home each morning
on our own.
>
> Beginning in late September, I followed this advice
precisely. I
> was very attentive at the meetings. We were told that we
would eventually
> receive a flow of energy beginning at the top of the head,
moving down the
> spine, coming up the front through the genital area and up the
chest and the
> face. By November, I began to experience this flow. I was
told that this
> was *very* early for a beginner; the average length of time
for this to
> start, I was told, was after about 5 years of practice. I was
thrilled and
> amazed. My scientistic atheism was definitely out the window.
But then
> something bizarre started.
>
> By the end of November, invisible hands began
caressing me, touching
> me. They would touch my back, my head, my face. It was
uncanny. I thought
> that these were spiritual helpers of some kind. They started
to direct my
> movements, sometimes gently (always gently) lifting me to a
standing
> position, moving my head to one side or back, etc. When I
would go through
> periods of receiving the energy (and these periods could last
for several
> hours), the hands often came. Then, they started some kind of
construction
> project on me. They injected some kind of material into my
forehead
> (apparently, my "third eye" had opened by now). They
sprinkled and then
> spread some kind of material on my back and legs. I told my
group leader
> about being "under construction" but she didn't have much to
say about it.
>
> Things got more complicated in December. In addition
to the hands,
> I was visited by what I can only describe as "creatures".
They seemed like
> a sort of animal. They would glom onto my legs and bite my
toes!! At this
> point, I figured that all was not well. These creatures came
mostly at
> night, and especially when I went to bed. I would feel
something like a hot
> blob, very large, sucking on my leg, and along with that
sensation there
> would be the biting of my toes. I figured that these were
some kind of
> creature from another dimension, feeding off of me. I was
strangely
> accepting of it. It didn't freak me out that much, because at
the time I
> thought this just went with spiritual advancement - an
occupational hazard.
> The creatures would also bite the top of my head. And other
creatures,
> which seemed somehow different, would sort of lick my face.
>
> At the end of December, things took a turn for the
worse. The
> hands, or at least *some* hands, actually began to sexually
manipulate me.
> They were jerking me off. It was absolutely unmistakable. I
also felt like
> some kind of suction apparatus at times was affixed to my
penis, and that
> something like a very thin catheter was being inserted into my
penis. While
> this was happening, I kind of joked to myself, "Okay, when do
I get the
> rectal probe?" Because this reminded me very much of what UFO
abductees
> describe.
>
> After this, the hands became more obtrusive and
obnoxious. For
> instance, when I got on a plane to fly back to Texas, they
poked me in the
> ass. Stuff like that. When I would have my periods of energy
flow, they
> would put their arm around my neck to block the flow, or put a
hand under my
> chin to divert the flow.
>
> I left a few things out of this account. One was the fact
that the
> "entities" created some kind of electrical "plug" on my back
that they would
> occasionally tap into, creating a kind of buzzing sensation
there. The
> other thing was that they installed some kind of living thing,
like a big
> worm, inside my torso. This living thing would move around
inside of me.
> Fortunately, I don't experience either of these phenomena
anymore.
>
> After Christmas, I was quite sure that my little
friends were not
> angels from God. When I got back to Houston, I told my group
leader about
> them in great detail. She said that this was all beyond her
experience, and
> suggested I speak to the leader that came from New York once a
month. When
> I talked to him in mid-January, he told me I needed to see a
psychiatrist,
> and that my experiences had nothing to do with "the Work."
>
> I did see a psychiatrist, and I continue to see one.
I don't
> believe that these visitations are the product of psychosis,
but the
> resulting depression and anxiety do require psychiatric care.
I've been
> prescribed antipsychotics, and I take them, but it's just to
"cover my
> bets."
>
> After my conference with the Big Cheese from New York,
I went into a
> mild panic. I felt very isolated. I broke off contact with
the Gurdjieff
> Foundation and stopped "sitting." My experiences were too
real to write
> off. And the fact that I had been fine until I started this
meditation was
> just too much of a coincidence.
>
> Eventually, I stopped feeling the hands. But up until
very
> recently, I still felt something walking around on my bed,
particularly at
> night. (I used to be able to feel both my little friends and
the creatures
> approaching me when I sat on the bed - I felt the mattress
being pressed
> down, although I never *saw* it go down.) Also, the energy
stopped flowing.
> However, I still feel a constant movement at the top of my
head. It simply
> will not go away.
>
> One more thing I should mention. This is the only
experience I'm
> unsure about. One afternoon in December, during the thick of
things, I was
> home and decided to open my blinds to let the sun in. I
usually keep them
> down. After awhile, I noticed across the courtyard of my
apartment building
> a man standing there, perfectly straight, and staring directly
at me into my
> apartment across the courtyard. He was in his 30's, bearded,
and wore a
> poncho (who wears ponchos these days? :-) ). All I can say
is, you had to
> be there. His stare went right through me. At first I tried
to ignore it.
> Finally, I approached my window. At that point, this
gentleman turned to
> his right like a robot, and robotically walked away. I never
saw him before
> and I haven't seen him since. I'm not sure what to make of
this experience.
> My current theory is that either he was some kind of possessed
person sent
> to "greet" me, or he was an apparition.
>
> So what do you think? At this point, I'm not sure
what to do.
>
> I'm looking again for a spiritual path. I approached
the Gurdjieff
> Foundation again last month, but they seem to think it's a
better idea if I
> stay away. It seems that my experiences don't fit into their
world view.
> (The New York leader told me that *I* was transforming the
energy I was
> receiving into these forms.) I keep telling God that He needs
to somehow
> compensate me for what happened to me before I approach Him
again; I want an
> explanation and some assurances from Him. I feel like I can't
trust God or
> any kind of meditation technique after all this. I feel like
this is all
> some silly game.
>
> I'm also concerned about the constant movement
at the top of
> my head. >Since November, when the energy flow started for me,
I have
> experienced
> >a constant feeling of movement and pressure at the
top of the head,
> down
> >to my forehead. It is a mixture of localized and
more generalized
> >sensations. Sometimes it feels like drumming
fingers, sometimes it
> >feels like a web being pressed down on my scalp, and
sometimes it
> feels
> >like a tingling. I would like it to stop, since I
don't appear to
> be
> >deriving any benefit from this whatsoever in terms of
my spiritual
> life. Is this my crown chakra? My psychiatrist is treating
it as if it
> were a hallucination.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Tim Mulligan
> TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu <mailto:TmulliganATnospamcentral.uh.edu>
>
> P.S. The Gurdjieff people teach that kundalini is a VERY BAD
THING. They
> teach that the direction of energy should be down into the
head, down the
> back and up the front, and that kundalini energy is backwards,
wrong, and
> keeps people from developing spiritually. Don't shoot the
messenger! I'm
> just explaining their teaching. Right now, I'm completely
agnostic about
> which way the energy should flow.
Hi Tim,
Well I dont mean to scare you but it sounds to me like you may
have the mark of
the beast in your forehead. DO NOT allow these things to malest
you. In the
physical world would you let someone malest you for what they
may give you.
There obviously bad entitys trying to live thru you. Dont do
any more
meditation dont do anything. If you want my advice You go
streight to the
closest catholic church and tell them and let them pray over you
and mabey
release you from the demonic attachment. Id suggest another
church but Ive
only heard of catholics releasing demonds from people. It
sounds to me that
your mind gets changed very easy. This may be how they found a
hole to get
into you by. I believe in God and Jesus and I dont need any
one or thing to
back up my belief . They save me everyday. You need to take a
stand and not
let yourself get minipulated. When they come I suggest having
a bible by your
bed and mabey even sleeping with it. When they come say " I
rebuke you satin,
The lord Jesus is my savior and believe it. You may start a
small tornado in
your room but be strong.
This is my suggestion.
Hopeing you to find what you need.
Love and LIGHT
Aimee
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1998 16:58:29 EDT
From: Lizard4663ATnospamaol.com
To: atpATnospambluestone.COM
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: My bizarre experiences
Message-ID: <90f177be.35afbaf6ATnospamaol.com>
Yes, they are around, unfortunately.
Liz
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