1998/07/15 12:28
kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #511
kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 511
Today's Topics:
Fwd: Mystress Angelique's Grounding [ "TTT S" <t_shermanATnospamhotmail.com> ]
Bullseye! [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: OBE Cautions, was "Interpreting [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Re: throat chakra [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
Healing [ Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz> ]
Re: some healing [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ starjunkyATnospamuswest.net ]
Re: Dissecting the Frogs [ "Sen Ashanka" <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.i ]
Re: Bullseye! [ esther steinacher <esther.steinache ]
Re: OBE Cautions, was "Interpreting [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: throat chakra [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ]
Disturbing Dream Analysis [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
Re: Wounded cry for help [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Playing with Kundalini / tantric Yog [ "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jases ]
Re: New at this but need help [ "Kimberly Nixon" <maniacone2uATnospamhotma ]
Why are we Dissecting the Frogs? [ Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com ]
Re: Healing [ "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com> ]
Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:30:44 PDT
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Wonderer,
Me too.
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>Hi K-Listers,
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>I just came back from a visit to this page.
>http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
>I could feel the charge running through me the moment I saw it.
>I am now so charged, I feel like electricity is running through me.
>Wow.
>
>Cathy
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:13:07 -0700
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Subject: Bullseye!
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Hah! Got 'im..! Bullseye!!!... snicker..
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:38:39 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: Orea <oreaATnospamerols.com>
Cc: Kundalini l list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: OBE Cautions, was "Interpreting this experience"
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At 07:28 AM 14/07/98 -0400, Orea wrote:
>
>Hi,
>
>There is something legitimate to fear.
>Our instructor told of a woman he knew who didn't come back.
Sorry, but I am finding huge galloping wads of skepticism around this.
I know where the skepticism comes from, it is from when I was 12 and my
Dad saw me reading a book on self-hypnosis, he gave me much the same
warning. Folks going into trance and not coming back.. he probably read it
in the Readers Digest..
However I had already read the chapter of the book where it said that
was impossible, so it only served to reinforce my opinion that my parents
were naive and stupid, and I should always tell them as little as possible
about my life. I don't think I tried to correct his misinformation, i had
already learned that was a bad idea.
Not to suggest you are naive and stupid, only explaining the roots of my
skepticism.
Certainly some people do leave the body and not come back.. like
Nirvakalapa samadhi.. death by voluntary exit.
> She didn't
>die or become a vegetable, she went through the motions of her life, but
>her personality underwent a distinct change, maybe a flattening would
>describe it, because much of her was simply gone. He said she was never
>the same afterward.
OK, now in my skepticism I am scratching my head wondering why this
Shaman did not do a Soul retrieval and bring her back? People having bits
of self gone missing or separated is the reason to do a soul retrieval in
the first place, whether they are lost by trauma or trance.
>I'm not saying don't do this, just be careful, don't go too far, don't stay
>out too late! (Momspeak!) Use the "buddy system" if you plan extensive
>work because this is not a game.
>
>Blessings,
>Orea
I put my faith in Angels..
Time and space do not exist, so wherever your consciousness goes, there
you are. This is the basis of what we call "Astral travel". Rather than
trying to go out, go in. The whole universe of space-time and beyond is
mirrored in the heart. Use it as a portal, and you cannot get lost.
The third eye can see forever. Don't go, just watch.
Ask for protection, whatever you do.. Guardian Angels on the job..
Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 21:28:00 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: throat chakra
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Generally speaking, a blocked throat chakra has to do with feeling safe
to speak your mind. Are there places in your personal history where you
were punished or suffered because you spoke out? Or because you did not?
Did you make some personal resolutions about how you would express
yourself? Spirit speaks thru the throat chakra, too, and so any limits on
what can be said are resistance to K. in your throat.
Fear of speaking, is best given up to spirit. Most of my email is written
by the heart voice, making use of my fingers... and spirit always knows
what to say... so if you give up your fear of saying the "Right" thing, and
let spirit speak thru you, you will always say the right thing..
I remember once doing a heart opening on a woman, and when I asked her to
ask her Heart voice if It loved her, she told me It said:
"Of Course. Stupid Question. Don't ask it again."
I was shocked my mouth fell open I had never heard the unconditionally
loving Heart speak like that before.. I double checked to make sure she was
really grounded.. she was. I had to look hard for the perfection. It came,
quickly.. She was shaking her head and smiling like a calm person who has
just seen a dead apple tree sprout ripe apples.
This woman had almost zero self esteem, and was desperate for verbal
abuse.. it felt like love, to her. She would not have believed gentle
words, and when I looked deeper, I saw even more perfection.. and a
compliment.
It did not say that she was stupid, it said her question was stupid. That
she was smarter than her current behavior, and smart enough not to need
things repeated. Nor will she, I am sure the answer to her question rings
in her mind, still, whenever she thinks to wonder if she is loved.
It was a lesson to me, too.. about the forms unconditional love can
take.. and the infinite wisdom and kindness of the heart. The strange
beauty of that interaction still haunts me. I will never forget it, either.
Don't be afraid to speak out. A harsh truth can be more nourishing to the
soul than saccharine sweet polite lies.
Blessings, Mystress.
At 04:44 PM 14/07/98 EDT, MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com wrote:
>Just a question...
> When I feel K energy coursing through my body, both my mate and myself can
>feel energy emanating from every chakra except the throat. I feel that it is
>bloked and, furthermore, that it is some sort of an emotional
>block...something that I cannot (or will not, more likely :) ) let go. I'm
>not sure what the block is, specifically. Does anyone have some insight into
>such a block?
> Thanks in advance,
> ~~~Judy
>
>
>
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:49:27 +1200
From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Healing
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HI
I subscribed to this board about a week ago and am very pleased that I did!
I have to be honest and say I am not able to go through all the mail that I
recieve due to lack of time, so I allow my insticts guide me to some of the
mail. Anyway here something someone maybe able to help me with.
I am currently a spiritual healer and yesterday I had a "concept" come into
my mind during meditation. There I had someone who was laying down on the
floor who's heart just stopped beating, I found myself standing next to
that person. There in the air I was forming the letter 8, in pure blue
light, kind of like bending a neon tube. I traced it again and again in
different ways until the form was "stable" in the air.
Then I simply grabbed and slammed the figure 8 into the heart charkra of
the person laying on the floor.
I understood the "ritual" similar to using electonic resustator thingy, can
someone provide an indepth explanation of this please?
Charan
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 01:06:17 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: some healing
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<snip>
>face all swollen, so I flashed her a *peace* sign. and waited a moment.
>Liz-Beth came out from behind the reader board,,, I think she giggled,
>she sent me back a peace sign,,, and stood taller.
This is lovely Freda!
A sign of love (may) diminish the fear present in another person.
>It felt real good to let that go. For both of us I think.
>It's gonna be okay.
>I'm safe at home now,,, and I hope Liz-Beth feels a little safer this
>morning as well.
Both she and you were afraid, and both tackled this beautifully.
One day she may offer you flower (instead of attacking you) :-)
>
>sendin' ya all a rainbow...
>thanks for your support
>freda
>
>
Love and Joy,
Jose
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:26:42 -0600
From: starjunkyATnospamuswest.net
To: "kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Zack Kaplan wrote:
> hi aimee- i get awaked at night with a sort of shock type thing-some nights
> repeatedly-sometimes i have to run downstairs quickly--any ideas how to
> harness this/
> zack
Hi zack:
Nope I dont know how to harness . How long have you had these shock
experiences? What other K related effects are going on at the same time period
with you? Mabey the shocks (or feelings of shocks are sideeffects from the
process.)
Peace
Aimee
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:54:52 +0200
From: "Sen Ashanka" <sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it>
To: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
Cc: mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Dissecting the Frogs
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>Harsha: Now that you have heard it, all you have to do is to be Your Self.
>The Gap between intellectual knowledge and experiential knowledge is then
>clearly seen. The goal of spiritual practice including Kundalini Yoga is
to
>narrow that Gap and eventually remove it. To do it one must enter the
Silence
>All Alone and see Eternity in all its Nakedness. Are we ready to give up
our
>clothes? It is quite hot and humid this time of the year.
Well, we have to ultimately gie up our "clothes". By "clothes" one may
mean not only the cloth covering the body, but the body itself. As you
have pointed out, the practice of K-yoga and all other kinds of yoga
helps remove the illusion and identification of the self with the non-
essentials.
Once the " clothes" are removed, what is hot and cold ? What is here
and there ? What is now and then ?
To do a mental exercise, imagine that you have a long nail that you
have cut and thrown on the ground. Now, that piece of nail that was
once a part of you is enduring all kinds of heat, cold, and torture.
Does that hurt you any more ? NO.
Similarly, (pardon the constant use of analogies), once you have got
rid of your "clothes", then it does not matter how hot or cold it is.
Like (another analogy), you see a rope in the dark. Reminds you of a
snake and you feel extremely scared. However, after a time you bring
light on it and notice that it is a piece of rope. All fear vanishes.
What happened ? Only knowledge, only realisation. In the dark, even
if soneome were to tell that it was only a rope, the fear would not
go. Only when you realise it for yourself that you get rid of fear.
Enlightened Masters knew this whole world and this life to be
illusionary and so had no fear or attachments to this life. This is
what enabled the yogis to give up their bodies sitting in the yoga
posture of "padmasan". This is why Jesus did not feel afraid on being
crucified. Instead, He spoke of forgiveness to His tormentors. The
guru of Adi Guru Shankaracharya, (I forgot His name), had held long
debates with Buddhist scholars and defeated them. Then, due to a
promise, he voluntarily sat inside a furnace and let his body burn and
then he gave up his body.
So, when you realise the Truth, then there is no problem in giving up
the clothes, and you will feel no heat or cold, no fear, no pleasures,
no sorrow, .... only pure happiness..... pure love..... pure joy.....
Cheers and love to all
Ashanka
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 23:08:50 +0500
From: esther steinacher <esther.steinacherATnospamxtra.co.nz>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Bullseye!
Message-ID: <35ACF032.5685ATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Way to go MYSTRESS
Luv ya Earle
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:47:28 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com, oreaATnospamerols.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: OBE Cautions, was "Interpreting this experience"
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In a message dated 7/14/1998 9:45:22 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com writes:
<< Certainly some people do leave the body and not come back.. like
Nirvakalapa samadhi.. death by voluntary exit.
>>
Harsha: This is extremely rare. Nirvikalpa Samadhi certainly need not lead to
death. If that was true, there would be no one to speak of that state (having
physically died as soon as it was achieved). However, when a Yogi sees the
natural time of death approaching, he/she raises the Shakti to Sahasarara and
exits fully conscious. According to Yogic psychology, it allows the aspirant
to retain awareness of his/her last life and carry present samskaras so the
person can start again from where he/she left off, without prolonged
preparation. My teacher's teacher's teacher demonstrated this in Allahabad,
India, when he was well above a 100 years of age. My teacher's teacher
prepared for this by fasting for some time when he was in his 80s. Many
others do it as well.
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:13:15 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: MoonDghtrATnospamaol.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: throat chakra
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Judy wrote:
When I feel K energy coursing through my body, both my mate and
myself can feel energy emanating from every chakra except the throat. I
feel that it is bloked and, furthermore, that it is some sort of an
emotional block...something that I cannot (or will not, more likely :) )
let go. I'm not sure what the block is, specifically. Does anyone have
some insight into such a block?
--------
I could be wrong but from what you describe it the blockage sounds like
it is below the throat. The throat is a very complex chakra, many nadis
come together there and are easily "tangled" causing blockages. But
based on what I've experienced and been taught, if K is in throat (or
any other chakra) dealing with a blockage the heat around that chakra
will be more intense there than elsewhere in the body.
If K has made it into the heart but not throat, the more likely blockage
sites are at the top of the heart chakra and at a point between the
heart and the throat, just below the throat. Both are fairly common
blockage points.
If that is the case, doing a regular meditation with a good mantra while
applying the three locks should ultimately cause the vayus of prana to
provide enough help to let Kundalini break through the blockage(s). It
may take some time. The better your lifestyle, diet, etc. is the quicker
it will happen.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 07:46:11 PDT
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com>
To: matrixATnospamroyaume.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
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yannick wrote:
do not play with kundalini!,it's not as fun as you think
it's a sacred force inside of us and you must be very sage to understand
how to practice that.
Joe:
OK, no problem with that statement. It is sort of like "don't shoot
hoops using the baptismal" in a church, should be obvious to all but it
may warrant repeating from time to time for some people.
yannick:
it's not as stupid as you think cause when doing sexual ritual with
your "wife",the man does not ,in any case, spend his semen(sperme) cause
if you do that you must pay after that by the karma.
mean,that the force must not serve the animal in you but the spirit.
you must have the right wife too....and many other rules.
but be caustious with that,it's a good practice but only who have the
force to think wisely is this a man who want to never ejaculate during
sexual act? for all your entire life?
Joe:
It would seem you've heard/read of/been taught about a tantric sexual
practice. Done right those practices can be extremely productive. To be
honest most people teaching them in the West seem to just want to get
laid. The only consideration of spirit would be the possible "Oh, God!
Oh, God!" toward the end of the "ritual."
Most people don't do these practices, nor should they. In India there
were eight Yogas, each took a different path to God. Each had many
different ways of being done. Many of those ways would be useless for a
given individual but one of those ways will be just right for that
individual.
As to the "never ejaculate" part. Look to the society you're talking
about. There were two paths to serve god, the householder (married
person) and the person practicing celibacy, who might or might not be a
monk. For householders one of the duties is to have children to preserve
and serve society. When I took biology it was considered very difficult
to produce offspring without semen leaving the male. Householders have
attained enlightenment as have monks. Most of us are, were, will be
householders. Because of our natures, very few will, or should, follow
the path of a monk, tantric or otherwise.
yannick:
i'm not a sage but be causious with that,it's not for kids
Joe:
Again good advice, but it should be obvious to all on the list.
Namaste,
Joe
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:25:26 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: "kundalini-1" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Disturbing Dream Analysis
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Hello,
Thank you my new friends for your insightful analysis of my troubling
dream. Everyone had, it seemed to me, a valid insight. My bottom
line on this is the dream was the push I needed to leave my comfort
zone, or expand my horizons just a little. I have been annoyed
lately with the proselytizing of my Christian friends, and recently
told one of them "I think Jesus is better than that". In my mind, I
have freed Him from their limitations.
Peace and Love to Each of You,
Cathy
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 08:26:22 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Wounded cry for help
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Nancy,
Respond lovingly and you will achieve the most independent on others
reactions.
To understand the feelings of this woman try to put yourself on her
shoes. There is always a reason for a (negative or positive) reaction
but one may not be aware of that.
May Love and Light guide your life in every step you take.
Love and Joy,
Jose
>I received a very disturbing letter today.
>
>I interacted with this woman for one week two years ago. I was in a
role
>of her supervisor and as part of that role, I had to edit her work. She
>became highly insulted over any suggestions and left abruptly one week
>after she started working. Over the course of the last two years, she
>has had a very difficult time in life. She hasn't had a job. She has CP
>and thinks that I was out to get her because of her physical
disability.
>She feels like her dreams are crushed, and it's all because of me.
>
>Needless to say, I was very surprised to hear that this person who was
>no more than a passing face in my life has such an attachment to this
>interaction. I want to respond, but she seems so unbalanced (maybe
>suicidal?) that I don't want my comments to aggravate the situation.
>Yet, I feel that she is so filled with bitterness that she needs a
>gentle intervening force to help her begin to heal.
>
>Ideas appreciated. Thanks in advance.
>
>Nancy
>
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:36:19 -0500
From: "Sessions, JoAnn F. (Artco)" <jasessionsATnospamartco.zgate.com>
To: yannick <matrixATnospamroyaume.com>
Cc: "'Post'" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Playing with Kundalini / tantric Yoga
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I think there are many things in life that most people fear. These
fears inhibit our ability to grow spiritually and directly effect how we
live out lives. It seems that the strength of those fears are in direct
proportion to how we feel they can effect our lives. I have noticed
over the course of time that one of the greatest fears many spiritual
people have is in regards to their sexuality. It is a part of the self,
both physically and spiritually. It is a part of the self that needs to
also be brought into balance, in order to become whole and complete. It
is a part of the self that also needs to be embraced, but understood,
and treated with respect. To do anything otherwise is to through the
whole out of balance. There is very little difference between the
person who allows their carnal desires to run wild, and the person who
is so afraid of them that they are never brought out into the light and
purified. As in all things, balance is the key, and learning to listen
to the guidance from within in all things.
* maybe i'm wrong,but i think jesus(*) was the only man who want
to sacrifice his animal being in front of all of us.
As for jesus (jeshua) being the only man who was willing to sacrifice
his animal in front of everyone I whole heatedly disagree. There have
been many and will be many people who reach that level of enlightenment
and selflessness. It is the natural end to our being. The path jesus
walked was one of unconditional love, and learning to listen to the
guidance from the father within. We can all walk this same path, often
do without realizing it. Many assume (because of what other men have
taught us) that jeshua never had children, never had a wife, and never
had troubles. I tell you now that is not true. His life held all the
same challenges, all the same pleasures as it does for us.
ladychristos
If you seek the truth, seek it from within, not from what you have been
taught from without.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:14:00 PDT
From: "Kimberly Nixon" <maniacone2uATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: New at this but need help
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Hi gang,
I'm so new to all of this but with a discussion of opening heart chakras
I'd like to tell you what I'm going through in life. I'm going through a
divorce, I have found another love who is my future husband. But I am
Manic Depressive and I get these horrible crying jags and fill like my
heart chakra area is open but only in the front and that it hurts, and
sometimes a feeling of anxiety. I'm not much into meditation but I'm
sure that would help me. Can anyone relate to this or decipher to help
me understand what I need to be doing to be right on my spiritual path
so to speak? Thanks in advance :-)
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:53:46 EDT
From: Harsha1MTMATnospamaol.com
To: sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it
Cc: mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Why are we Dissecting the Frogs?
Message-ID: <a9ed03e.35acde9bATnospamaol.com>
In a message dated 7/15/1998 1:59:12 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
sashankaATnospamaismi.ais.it writes:
<< So, when you realise the Truth, then there is no problem in giving up
the clothes, >>
Harsha: When you realize, there is no you, so you need not give up the clothes
:--). So the question of taking off the clothes must be considered only in
the context of preparation for Facing the Naked Truth. Truth of the Self.
Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 14:08:19 -0400
From: "Wonderer" <mrtn74aATnospamprodigy.com>
To: <Kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>, "Siva" <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
Subject: Re: Healing
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From: Siva <guardianATnospamxtra.co.nz>
" There in the air I was forming the letter 8, in pure blue
light, kind of like bending a neon tube. "
>Charan
Dear Charan,
Have you seen the blue neon lettering before? I have seen it as the
color of verbal thoughts printed in the astral realm, or the bardo,
or "wherever" I was before this incarnation. It was a plane of
light. (Thoughts are not private there.) Also, on occasion, I have
had bursts of "intuition", or knowledge, which I have seen as the
light blue neon lettering, appear in the "air" before me. When I see
this, it is rare, but I know it is some sort of psychic experience.
I do not know what the significance of the letter 8 is, but I once
read something; I think that it implies continuity.
Welcome to the list!
Cathy
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