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kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #508


kundalini-l-d Digest Volume 98 : Issue 508

Today's Topics:
  Re: (no subject)*street sense* [ freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com> ]
  A dream [ "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon. ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Claire Illich <ClaireiATnospamaol.com> ]
  Re: (no subject)*street sense* [ Rainsong <rainsongATnospamvalley-internet. ]
  Re: (no subject)*street sense* [ "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu> ]
  Re:*street sense* [ "Michael M. Zanoni" <herbgmpATnospamix.net ]
  Street Sense [ Orea <oreaATnospamerols.com> ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Gregory Howard <lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com> ]
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Re: AutoPost:Anahata Voice. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Re: AutoPost: Anahata voice. [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ]
  Melody/e-mail [ WEIVODAATnospamaol.com ]
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen [ Royale Shelton <rjillsATnospamcruzio.com> ]
  Re: AutoPost:Anahata Voice. [ nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net> ]
  Meaning of Life / Soul [ WEIVODAATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: (no subject)*street sense* [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
  Re: *street sense* [ MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com ]
  RE: Captives of the mind [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: Pretense [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: Freda [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
  Re: (no subject)*street sense* [ "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.co ]
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 04:24:51 -0700
From: freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com>
To: jim privacy <jprivacyATnospamHotmail.com>
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)*street sense*
Message-ID: <35A89D03.5053ATnospamnwlink.com>

Hello Jim, & Others,

> Wonder what the opinion of others is on the general subject: do you
> trust in Allah but tie up the camel? In this case, does common sense
> prevail and you take precautions to defend yourself from possibility of
> attack? Or does metaphysical theory prevail, and you avoid even the
> thought of being attacked for fear of creating that condition in the
> world i.e., fear that your negative thoughts will attract negativity to
> you?

I can of corse only speak to the issues as they affect me, what I have
done, and the results of my actions.
I have always been cautious, I know the danger is out there, I keep my
eyes open and my ears 1/2 open, I listen to my walkman with one earplug.
I have been doing this kind of work for 6 years and NEVER, until now had
any confrontations, but I never let my guard down either. When I first
started, good intententioned people gave me mase & a knife, even had one
give me a gun.... I promtly removed both the gun and its owner from my
home... I never even held the knife in my hand, I personally would never
be able to use it so why carry it? I did carry the mase for a few days
and then gave that up, it made me *feel* like I was drawing trouble to
me. Okay, I am a whimp! I prefere to blend into the woodwork, I speak a
friendly hello to anyone I pass - first - I don't wait for them to speak
to me, and then right back into the woodwork I go... this usually works,
for me.. I have been known to run like hell to the nearest door when
feeling threatened, screaming the whole way,,, but this was in the
daytime,,,, and it turned out nobody was persuing me anyway.. :0
I think there IS something to be said for *bad vibes* I see this with
dogs and cats, that I can pass an animal repeatedly night after night
with no problem if I am in good spirits,, but I have learned to be
stand-offish with them if I am feeling out of sorts... they pick up on
this and it makes them nervous.. they get defesive. People are the same
way.
This incident with Liz-Beth, I think that what happened with her
probably was the result of a couple of things... first, I *was* putting
out bad vibes, and secondly, she is a very nervous highly strug
individual to begin with,,, just like the dogs, she felt those vibes and
she defended herself... her guard was definitly UP and her "street
sense" prevailed.
I dont feel like I brought this on myself, nor do I blame her for her
actions. In this case it was more like two fools passing in the night, I
am just thankful she wasnt carring a gun!
BTW I dont think this is a blame the victim attitude, it may sound
whippy, but in 43 years I have been assulted 2x's both by women, both of
them highly sensitive, socially victimized... and neither time did I
have the wit about me to defend myself,,, the thoughts in my head both
times were of "why?" and neither time could I find reason to retaliate
either during the incidents or later, and in hind sight have been glad I
didn't.
Domestic violence on the other hand has been a different matter,,,, on
those occasions I was rightfully indignint from the get go,,, didn't
have to think... just got bigger than life and whopped ass ... so maybe
I am not such a wimp after all...
>From what I have seen, there are those people who talk tough, and find
they have to prove it... and there are those who carry wepons, and find
they have to use them. And sometimes those of us who do neither run into
someone with a stick...
I don't wish to change myself to accomadate the violence in the world so
I will just contiue to be myself, say hello, and stear clear of people
and
situations which make me feel uneasy.... and maybe take a friend along
when
I'm giving off bad vibes......... to keep my spirits up.
freda
Date: 6 Jan 78 11:42:08 +0000
From: "Paul West" <paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: A dream
Message-Id: <F137AAC.MD-0.196.paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk>

Hi.

Had a quite lovely dream this morning. It was nighttime and I looked
up into the sky. Space was pitch black and every star sparkled with
great clarity. I then started to see constellations and there appeared
`outline images' of the constellation's characters, cancer,
saggitarious, taurus, pegasus, etc. And it was as though I had never
seen this before or had the clarity to do so. It was most beautiful
and I was in awe.

Anyway. Things with me have been improving lately. With some help from
the zodiac I seem to be asking "why?" a lot less. There's a warmth
that seems to glow inside of me. It seems that anything is possible
and that there is no reason for this not to be allowed. A horoscope
for this past week said that I should (would) keep my intellectual
analysis for the crossword. This is certainly occuring. I seem to wake
up these days without wondering why the hell I exist. The intellectual
reasons why certain things are not allower or right are so...
unnecessary.

--
Paul.

IRC: #amiga, Dalnet: #blitz
WWW: http://www.stationone.demon.co.uk
E-M: paulATnospamstationone.demon.co.uk
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 05:35:45 -1000 (HST)
From: Claire Illich <ClaireiATnospamaol.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199807121535.FAA15981ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hi
I am new to the concept of Kundalini. I first experienced this last winter as a feeling of electric shocks going my body. This was followed by experiencing visions. I had no idea what was happening to me. The visions I had were extremely scarey for me.. The very first one I saw my granddaughter run in front of a bus. This was accompanied by an energy explosion so strong, I thought I had been hit by lightning, Then it stopped for about 6 months and it is starting again. I am not equipped to deal with this. Anyone who can offer me advice and support would be greatly appreciated.
  

Thanks

Claire
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:25:17 -0500
From: Rainsong <rainsongATnospamvalley-internet.net>
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)*street sense*
Message-Id: <2.2.16.19980712092216.312f8728ATnospammail.valley-internet.net>
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>
>Wonder what the opinion of others is on the general subject: do you
>trust in Allah but tie up the camel? In this case, does common sense
>prevail and you take precautions to defend yourself from possibility of
>attack? Or does metaphysical theory prevail, and you avoid even the
>thought of being attacked for fear of creating that condition in the
>world i.e., fear that your negative thoughts will attract negativity to
>you?
>

A devout man was caught unaware in a flash flood. He climbed to the roof of
his house, and watched the water rise. As it reached the first floor, a man
on a raft came by and offered him a ride to higher ground.

"No thanks." he replied. "I've asked God to rescue me. He'll be coming by
shortly."
As the water rose, another man in a motor boat came by, yelling "Get in!"

"No thanks. I've asked God to rescue me. If I need help, he will save me."

The water rose to the eaves of the roof. A helicopter flew over, dropping a
rope ladder. Again, the answer was, "No thanks. I've asked God to rescue
me. If I need help, he will save me."

The man drowned. As he approached God, he accused angrily. "You said to
trust You but you let me drown."

God's answer, "I sent two boats and a helicopter. What more did you want?"

------------
We are spiritual beings having a human experience. Because we are governed
by physical limits, we have to live by physical law. I live in the here and
now. Life is good and well worth living!

Trust in One's Higher Power does not mean avoiding life. Fear of a negative
thought creates more problems than facing the thought, owning, embracing and
processing it. Denial is more den a river in Egypt. I refuse to further
victimize the victim by asking, "How did you manifest this?"

Women especially have to be able to take care of themselves. I live in a
small town, have little to fear from assailants, however, there is nothing
wrong with taking care of myself! I carry a knife when I am out alone.
(There is nothing unusual about that, as I use it to cut string, flowers,
etc. and this is "country".)

If one is processing "old stuff" and goes into "hit me" mode, be aware of
it. Look at where it came from, why you are still holding on. Get
emotional/mental support from trusted friends or a support group. Ask your
Higher Power (Mine is the Goddess) for help. Shield yourself psychically,
*and* physically. Learn about how perpetrators of crime choose their
victims. Take self defense courses. Just having the protection available
often is enough to deter an attack.

What is the difference between a lady and a wench? A lady carries a blade
and can say NO when she wants!

Just my thoughts/opinions on a well asked question.

Rainsong
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 12:30:03 -0400
From: "Sharon Webb" <shawebbATnospamyhc.edu>
To: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: (no subject)*street sense*
Message-ID: <002b01bdadb2$52f95da0$98d11fa8ATnospamsharonwe>
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Jim and all,

I want to live in a safe universe. I left a dangerous city (Miami) and
moved to a small town in the Blue Ridge mountains. I choose to trust people
and situations, but I also trust the vibes and feelings I get.

I don't tie up the camel much. Until we moved three years ago, I left my
house and car unlocked all the time unless we were going out of town for
more than two days. Started locking where we are now, as there are many
part-time summer residences in our neighborhood---and vacation houses are
attractive to thieves. I still leave the car unlocked though. :-) I also
have two big dogs---teddy bears, but strangers are afraid of them.

I have let stranded strangers into my house at 1 or 2 in the morning...and
on one memorable occasion, the strangers were a blue-grass band who played
for an hour for my daughter and me before their ride showed up. Once I
opened the door at 1:30 AM to two teen-agers armed with shotguns. They were
there to suggest I put my horses up in the barn as they had spotted a
mountain lion on the prowl.

I hired a young schizophrenic to work around the house and cut deadfall with
a chainsaw. I thought nothing of this until my daughter pointed out the
dangers she perceived. But he was utterly harmless and needed a job, so I
kept him on.

We keep guns in the house---about a dozen---but they haven't been fired in
years and I seldom think of them.

I tend to trust people and believe what they tell me---unless vibes kick in
that they are lying or in some way a danger to me. When this happens, I
completely trust my inner impressions. I know I am guided. When I hear
inner voices telling me to "Get out! Now!" believe me I don't hang around.

When I was driving home from work once at night, I was chased by four men in
a car. It was on a lonely mountain road where even the CB radio couldn't
get a signal, but I outran them.

When I worked in the Emergency Room, I encountered drunks, druggies, and
belligerents of all stripes. Some carried knives; some brandished them, but
it seems at times like that that an inner energy comes flowing out very
strongly and says, in effect---and effectively---"Stop that!" When a
situation is tense and potentially dangerous, I become very calm.

I had fifty dollars taken from my purse once, but that was the only theft in
my life.

I'm sure a lot of people will think I'm a fool for living the way I do. I
can only say, I'd rather be this way than to mistrust and withdraw. I may
be a fool, but it works for me.

Sharon

>Wonder what the opinion of others is on the general subject: do you
>trust in Allah but tie up the camel? In this case, does common sense
>prevail and you take precautions to defend yourself from possibility of
>attack? Or does metaphysical theory prevail, and you avoid even the
>thought of being attacked for fear of creating that condition in the
>world i.e., fear that your negative thoughts will attract negativity to
>you?
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 10:42:54 -0700
From: "Michael M. Zanoni" <herbgmpATnospamix.netcom.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
CC: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re:*street sense*
Message-ID: <35A8F59E.2E4FF640ATnospamix.netcom.com>

>

Friends -I found that there is a great difference between not manifesting
violence and manifesting not-violence. The "not manifesting violence" is
the idea that I could alter my thoughts and personal manifestations such
that I would not create violent situations in my life. The "manifesting
not-violence" means that I developed the emotional state where, when
confronted with a situation that might go any direction, I would be able to
control my participation so that something other than a violent outcome was
manifested. I have had many real-world experiences in this area, having
worked as a police officer, in military intelligence, as a drug counselor, a
teacher in jails, and as a psychologist.
It took almost twenty years of work in meditation, martial arts, and
generally overcoming my own ignorance for me to realize that so much
violence in my life originated from my own fear. Much of this fear was able
to grow in me because I was unable to allow the Love shown to me by others
to penetrate into my Heart.

I no longer sleep with a firearm by the bed, but I still tie my camels up at
night.

Mike Zanoni
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 17:19:27 -0400
From: Orea <oreaATnospamerols.com>
To: Kundalini l list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com>
Subject: Street Sense
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I knew a gifted psychic who thought he didn't have to lock up his house
because that would show lack of faith in his protection. Guess what?
An angry former associate knew his schedule, brought a couple of strong
cohorts and robbed him blind, stole his computer and all of his mailing
lists, a large sum of cash he left in the desk drawer even though he had
a safe, etc.

Faith has its place but nothing can replace common sense and simple
precautions.

Blessings,

Orea
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 11:37:15 -1000 (HST)
From: Gregory Howard <lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199807122137.LAA20688ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

I am currently in the process of waking Kundalini so far I have awakened the first three chakras that was no problem but for some time now I have been having trouble opening the 4th chakra. My hangup comes in whenever I try to let the anahat come in to me I am going by John Selby's book "Kundalini Awakening" Can any one explain this technique to me so that I can better understand what is going on. Or can anyone give me a specific technigue so that I can hear the anahata. Thank you Greg Howard
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 16:13:41 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
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Hi Greg,

Welcome. I am not familiar with the John Selby or his techniques. Can
you please explain and let us (or at least me) know what hearing
"anahata" means?

Again, welcome to the list.

Nancy
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:22:35 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: AutoPost:Anahata Voice.
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At 11:37 AM 12/07/98 -1000, Gregory Howard wrote:
> Can any one explain this technique to me so that I can better understand
what is going on. Or can anyone give me a specific technique so that I can
hear the anahata. Thank you Greg Howard
>
  Here ya go:

 The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
     http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
  Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.
      Blessings, Mystress.
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 16:24:51 -0700
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>
To: nancyATnospamwtp.net
Cc: lhcpmgphATnospamiswt.com, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost: Anahata voice.
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980713162451.00c804bcATnospamdomin8rex.com>
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  The still, small voice within, the voice of the Heart Chakra is the
perfect Guru.
     Blessings, Mystress.
 
At 04:13 PM 12/07/98 -0600, nancy wrote:
>Can
>you please explain and let us (or at least me) know what hearing
>"anahata" means?
>
>Again, welcome to the list.
>
>Nancy
>
>
>
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:31:59 EDT
From: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Melody/e-mail
Message-ID: <15536cce.35a94770ATnospamaol.com>

Melody....I miss placed your e-mail address, being the air head I have been
latley. So can you please contact me.
Kristin
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 15:06:23 -1000 (HST)
From: Royale Shelton <rjillsATnospamcruzio.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center
Message-Id: <199807130106.PAA27661ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>

Hello to all. Just resubscribed to list but found out I could e-mail it direcly
so Im testing this method. Any old members still on from l996? Royale
Date: Sun, 12 Jul 1998 19:17:26 -0600
From: nancy <nancyATnospamwtp.net>
To: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com>,
 kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com>
Subject: Re: AutoPost:Anahata Voice.
Message-ID: <35A96022.7BEB4D20ATnospamwtp.net>
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Mystress Angelique Serpent wrote:

> The grounding visualization for awakening Kundalini is at
> http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm
> Please visit this page when you have 20 minutes to relax
> and do the meditation, as the page is "charged" with Shakti
> and keyed to be released by your free will choice to visit the page.

I've already mentioned to Angelique that I had quite a charged feeling right
after doing this meditation. But I have to share with you all that I am soooo
ENERGIZED! I'm storming around the house in my swimming suit cleaning...and I
HATE cleaning. I've got my bathroom all scrubbed, fridge cleaned, rugs in the
wash. Next I'm going grocery shopping. (I'll put some clothes on for that :-)

I've realized that I have allowed my self to be depleted of energy...maybe
operating at about 50% of capacity. Whatever goes on with that meditation put
me in connection with my source. I feel renewed!

Thanks again, Angelique!

Nancy
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:12:59 EDT
From: WEIVODAATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Meaning of Life / Soul
Message-ID: <febdceb0.35a9894dATnospamaol.com>

If you were a speck, on the surface of a vast galaxy, controlled by nothing
but insticts given to you by forces you never will understand. Can you still
achieve greatness?

If you make a doghouse, is it merely certain pieces of certain matter, held
together by so many forces that it is innumerable, arranged in a specific
order to serve a purpose to our needs, in the end is it just a doghouse or
something else?

If you lead the horse to water and it will not drink, what would be any
different if you lead the horse to heaven?

Just Thinking,
Kristin
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:34:28 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: shawebbATnospamyhc.edu
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)*street sense*
Message-ID: <bcf1b7a5.35a98e56ATnospamaol.com>

In a message dated 98-07-12 12:30:49 EDT, you write:

<< I'm sure a lot of people will think I'm a fool for living the way I do. I
 can only say, I'd rather be this way than to mistrust and withdraw. I may
 be a fool, but it works for me. Sharon >>

Hi Sharon,

I'm with you a 1,000%!! I think we are all gently guided by Spirit, and that
whatever "bad" happens to us is a blessing in disguise...a lesson that we need
for growth. We just can't see it until we're "further on down the road."
--Michele
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:39:12 EDT
From: MMeyers541ATnospamaol.com
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com
Subject: Re: *street sense*
Message-ID: <62cf6d4c.35a98f71ATnospamaol.com>

Hi All,

Been following this thread a few days about protecting yourself from the evils
that abound thruout the city & country. Here's my 2 cents...

Whenever I'm out & about, & see possible danger, such as an unfriendly dog, I
simply send my love, say something sweet like, "Hi, Puppy"...and be on my way.
Works for me--Michele
Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 00:25:44 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: RE: Captives of the mind
Message-ID: <19980713072544.12743.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>Dear Jose,
>
>My post was about : 'inner' and 'outer' senses. Nowhere did I use the
words
>'intuition' and 'knowing'. I didn't have intuition in mind, as (IMO) it

Okay Jan. I thought you were meaning something else; you had something
else in your mind.

Love and Joy,
Jose

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 02:58:00 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Pretense
Message-ID: <19980713095801.20334.qmailATnospamhotmail.com>
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>
>Thankfully, the symptoms in this moment of separation, this
>pseudo "now", can be recognized: the mind in linear mode,
>typing letters and words in sequence; the possibility of endless
>discussion in concepts metaphorically parallel to various truths
>that prevent the actual experience; the wanting of recognition
>and assurance of being 'wise' or humorous; the possibility of
>drifting from subject to subject without a sense of completeness;
>the temptation to indulge in pretentious spirituality, humility, and
>self-awareness.....Oops! :-)
>
>

Dear Ed,

Thanks for this interesting posting. How true!
Pretense... Yes, sure! How could it be different when one wants to talk
about something in a personal way without the (real) wish to share but
moreover to 'impose' ones own ideas/views... Or, even talking about
something one has not experience at all... Or, when does one stops
wearing all kind of masks and just be oneself? ...
It has happen in the past, its happening now and it will happen in the
future.
One that is pretending, isn't he/she lying to himself/herself... not
being honest with himself/herself?

Love and Joy,
Jose

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 03:27:45 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: Freda
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Hello Freda&Cathy,

I wish you both are feeling better!

>
>The only explanation I've come up with is "these are some sort of
>tests, or growing experiences". After a while, my "center" will
>shift in response to these changes.
>

Thats it! There is knowing to learn if nothing happens... :-)

>For some reason, people we meet are reacting to some sort of vibe you
>(and I) are giving out. To be sure, these are people who were

Most of the times there is a positive or negative respons to the vibes
one is transmitting (even in the case where these vibes are loving
ones...)

>have observed correcting others behavior before on the train. I feel
>she needed to be corrected in this way, but I also feel I failed to
>handle the situation lovingly, and that I am incapable of doing so,
>or handling it any better. This has bothered me for two days.
>

You were aware that you could have handled the situation (more)
lovingly. How lovely is this for itself for how many people do not
respond in a non-loving way and are not at the least aware of the pain
they may have inflicted to other(s)?
Cathy, it is beautiful to be (fully) aware of one's own non-loving
events and feeling remorse for that, for in doing this one has already
learn something very important. Probably, if you encounter this lady
again you will respond differently, isn't it? *smile*
Do not dwell too long on a negative experience or this experience will
influence your life (negatively) for some time. Live the experience,
choose to learn from it (or not) and go on... with life!

>
>I feel that some sort of purification process will help this stage
>pass. Cleansing of the body, clothes, house and mind, so nothing
>impure is attached to you. Meditate, and ask God to help you get rid
>of all thought forms, or negative concepts from the past. Hang in
>there! I am feeling more balanced already today, and more
>comfortable with myself.
>

I like a lot the above piece of beauty. Thanks for sharing it :-)

Freda:
You seem to have had some bad time. That for itself is also an
experience. Maybe this helps...
Think that it could have been worse.
(Just a positive way to look at an negative experience for we all can
choose how to react, positively or negatively, to such an expereince)
Take care of yourself.

Love and Joy,
Jose

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Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 04:49:41 PDT
From: "Jose Arroyo" <jm_arroyoATnospamhotmail.com>
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)*street sense*
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>me. Okay, I am a whimp! I prefere to blend into the woodwork, I speak a

No, you are not!

>friendly hello to anyone I pass - first - I don't wait for them to
speak

This is beautiful *smile*

>I think there IS something to be said for *bad vibes* I see this with
>dogs and cats, that I can pass an animal repeatedly night after night
>with no problem if I am in good spirits,, but I have learned to be
>stand-offish with them if I am feeling out of sorts... they pick up on
>this and it makes them nervous.. they get defesive. People are the same

I have experienced this myself with dogs. When I am radiating *good
vibes* there is no fear at all and probably they 'read' this kind of
energy.

>BTW I dont think this is a blame the victim attitude, it may sound
>whippy, but in 43 years I have been assulted 2x's both by women, both
of

It doesn't sound whippy to me.
Does one has to prove something to the world? It takes much more "guts"
to be a peaceful warrior and approach people with a smile, a hug or a
kiss than approaching them in a defensive and possible aggresive way.

>them highly sensitive, socially victimized... and neither time did I
>have the wit about me to defend myself,,, the thoughts in my head both
>times were of "why?" and neither time could I find reason to retaliate
>either during the incidents or later, and in hind sight have been glad
I
>didn't.

Beautiful. You are a peaceful "warrior". :-)
The peaceful warrior walks around and shares and gets love from (most
of) the people he/she relates to. The love makes you strong.
While the armed warrior will be always on the defense and may sometimes
even attack someone with no reason. This kind of warrior attracts
negativity, fear. The arms is a source of the weakness.

>I don't wish to change myself to accomadate the violence in the world
so

You don't have to. The way you are walking now you are diminishing
the violence in the world instead of increasing it. (Even if it is by
only one person. Others may follow your steps)

>I will just contiue to be myself, say hello, and stear clear of people
>and
>situations which make me feel uneasy.... and maybe take a friend along
>when
>I'm giving off bad vibes......... to keep my spirits up.
>freda
>
>
Way to go Freda! Beautiful intentions!

Love and Joy,
Jose

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