1998/06/22  04:04  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #469 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 469
 
Today's Topics: 
  Father's Day Kundalini Care Package:  [ "j percyval" <percyval2ATnospamhotmail.com ] 
  I just sent email to my twin soul     [ "Dhyani \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindsprin ] 
  RE: I just sent email to my twin sou  [ freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com> ] 
  Re: Headaches                         [ Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: digeriedoo                        [ MoonrisempATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Headaches                         [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ] 
  AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Cen  [ Judy <Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net> ] 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ Tim <timATnospamsbinfo.com> ] 
  Re: Anybody have experience with Raj  [ "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamco ] 
  Re: Anybody have experience with Raj  [ "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> ] 
  Does anybody have experience with LA  [ Hajeed <habATnospamtelekom.com.my> ] 
  Re: Headaches                         [ Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com ] 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 15:05:05 PDT 
From: "j percyval" <percyval2ATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Father's Day Kundalini Care Package: Links  
Message-ID: <19980621220507.17483.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain
 
hi friends,
 
Mystress Angelique has assigned me the task of organizing and  
summarizing some kundalini links that she put together for her  
father...she would also like to share them with all of you...
 
i serve her happily, as she serves us all...
 
love,
 
john percyval,  slave, knight, avatar*
 
(*and for a few dollars more, i do dishes also) 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
   Kundalini-Related Links From Mystress Angelique
 
     the www's greatest page*
 
(*in this slave's unbiased opinion)
 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/ground.htm      
this is Mystress Angelique's famous grounding  
visualization that has been discussed here so  
often...it is a very powerful method for becoming  
aware of spiritual energies that are a  
part of who you are...and of waking up your  
kundalini...it is also a great way for those already  
k-awakened to find balance and grounding... 
(Mystress recommends that you read this for the first  
time when you have 20 minutes alone and undisturbed  
to read and perform the exercise...she has  
shakti-charged the page...after you try it, you will  
know what this means)
 
     kundalini: general information
 
  http://www.execpc.com/~libra/kund/kundalini-faq.html     
frequently asked questions about kundalini...these  
are very well-written and a great place to start...
 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/K.htm   
Mystress's brief and concise description of kundalini...
 
  http://aloha.net/~bpeay/kundalini/   
probably the most inclusive site for articles, info and links to other  
k-related sites...by Bill Peay...
 
  http://www.ncinter.net/~ejt/kuncentras1.htm   
this is a great short and basic description of what  
kundalini is...it emphasizes the benefits of  
k-awakening...
 
  http://www.telebyte.nl/~frans/kundalini/harsh.html    
an essay by Harsha about kundalini awakening with  
emphasis on tantra (yoga of sexuality) and pranayama  
(yoga of breathing)...
 
  http://www.tantrictom.demon.co.uk/cosmos.htm   
"Yogi Tom" Aston's collection of articles and info about kundalini and  
other related topics...
 
     symptoms of kundalini awakening
 
  http://users.aol.com/ckress/symptoms.html   
"kundalini signs and symptoms"...a listing of the  
various physical, mental and emotional symptoms that  
folks sometimes experience when going through  
k-awakening...
 
  http://www.well.com/user/selene/SENarticles/SpiritPsychosis.html  or 
  http://www.ncinter.net/~ejt/kunvega.htm      
a discussion of how the symptoms of kundalini awakening are  
sometimes mistaken for psychosis...
 
  http://www.tantrictom.demon.co.uk/crisis.htm   
some great advice on how deal with difficulties that  
arise during k-awakening...
 
  http://kato.theramp.net/leigh/kundalini/    
more good advice on how to deal with a crisis due to  
k-awakening...
 
  http://www.discernment.org/comparis.htm   
a comparison showing the simiarities between charismatic christian  
phenomenon and kundalini awakening...it is an amusing viewpoint by a  
fundamental christian who considers both to be "demonic"...
 
     kundalini: special topics
 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/serpent.htm       
a short essay on the serpent archetype and its  
relation to kundalini...it is on Mystress's site,  
but was written by Traveler...
 
  http://www.princeton.edu/~kamenos/moses.html       
an essay about Moses' rod of power...and it's  
kundalini implications...
 
  http://www3.eu.spiritweb.org/Spirit/only-love.html   
a discussion of kundalini awakening through "courtly  
love"...including tales from camelot that  
demonstrate this power...
 
     kundalini and gnostic christianity
 
  http://www.sol.com.au/kor/8_01.htm   
a good summary of gnostic christianity and its relation to kundalini...
 
  http://www.enemies.com/oldtestament/clonesnladders/instructor.html   
this is another discussion of serpent symbolism and  
its relation to kundalini...it is looked at from a  
gnostic christian point of view...
 
  http://www.ncinter.net/~ejt/kundalini.htm       
a discussion of chakras and kundalini from a  
christian perspective...
 
  http://members.aol.com/MsMateen/   
"the yoga of the holy spirit"...a discussion of  
meditation from a mystical christian  
perspective...the author is a k-awakened  
christian...
 
  http://www.renature.com/krf/artrev/gnostic.html  or 
  http://www.princeton.edu/~kamenos/gnostic.html   
another discussion of serpent symbolism and  
kundalini from a gnostic christian perspective...
 
     k-related, but not k-related
 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/pains.htm   
Mystress's guide for healing pain with gratitude and endorphins...
 
  http://www.rishi.dk/academy/home.html   
"these pages are dealing with quantum field theory, general relativity  
and vedanta as well as with the insight, that emerges when these are  
combined"... 
 
  http://deoxy.org/l_impgui.htm   
Timothy Leary's guide to successful psychedelic experience...
 
  http://deoxy.org/8circuit.htm   
R.A.Wilson's overview of Leary's 8-circuit model of human  
consciousness... 
 
  http://deoxy.org/learyraw.htm   
"the Timothy Leary and Robert Anton Wilson show"...a major collection of  
works by these two geniuses...
 
  http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/intro.html   
probably the most inclusive site for spiritual topics on the web...
 
  http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/boogie-busting.html   
clearing ghosts and entities...
 
  http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/astral-cleaning-duna.html   
clearing your space of negative influences... 
 
  http://www.spiritweb.org/Spirit/past-life-attached-spirit-baldwin.html    
are your past lives your own? 
 
  http://members.aol.com/CntLessons/       
instructions for mystical contemplative prayer from a gnostic christian  
viewpoint...
 
  http://pathfinder.com/time/magazine/domestic/1996/960408/history.html   
"the secret lives of Jesus Christ"...a brief description of gnosticism  
and manichaeism...
 
  http://www.timesoft.com/hopi/past.htm   
a discussion of hopi prophecies...
 
  http://www.deoxy.org/nu.htm   
an incredible collection of links to sites about the expansion of  
consciousness...
 
     tantra
 
  http://www.domin8rex.com/serpent/gaia.htm   
Mystress's words of wisdom on solo experiences with sex energy... 
 
  http://www.luckymojo.com/sacredsex.html   
a place where you can read about tantra yoga, karezza, 
and other forms of sex worship... 
 
  http://www.hubcom.com/magee/tantra/   
"the hindu tantrik homepage"...a comprehensive collection of articles on  
tantra with a traditional hindu viewpoint...
 
  http://www.aaart.com/tantra/will.htm   
a short essay on tantra and will...
 
(these links were lovingly sorted and summarized by Mystress Angelique's  
devoted slave, john percyval)
 
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Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:49:08 -0400 
From: "Dhyani  \"Debbie\"" <debhATnospammindspring.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: I just sent email to my twin soul 
Message-Id: <3.0.1.32.19980621204908.006a89c0ATnospampop.mindspring.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
I don't know if I just did something dumb or not but after getting such 
inspirational support from all of you just reading my story and not 
thinking I am really strange, I decided to send my twin soul some email.
 
I have rarely communicated with him in the past two years. I did see him 
from a distance about a month ago as I went to eat lunch with someone who 
works on his staff.  He made a point to say hello and wave to me from a 
distance.  He has always acknowledged me that way and we can even have a 
nice conversation if I go up to his office but I have to overcome so much 
fear first it doesn't seem worth it.  I know it just makes both of us 
emotionally uncomfortable.
 
I have tried in the past to communicate to him about the psychic 
experiences I have had in his presence but he would always abruptly cut me 
off and say that he was not psychic and did not want to talk about such 
things.  This despite the fact that for the first four months we knew each 
other and we talking quite intimately (before the energy changed when I 
woke up in grief in Nov. '94).  During that four month period, he confided 
to me a number of things including the fact that he had had OBE experiences 
before and believed he had been a priest in another life.  He also believed 
in UFOs quite seriously and was certain he was going to be abducted in the 
near future.  Interestingly, he told me all this AFTER he triggered my "K" 
experience in July '94.  I often wonder if he wasn't trying to cryptically 
communicate about what had just happened by telling me that his OBE 
experiences had really scared him.
 
Well, I have not been at peace for a long time because I want very much to 
tell him about my experiences.  If he did crucify me thousands of years ago 
he owes me at least that much.  I wrote him an email message last night and 
I stated in it that I know he will not respond to it but I felt the need to 
at least tell him some of what I have been through.  I know I am taking a 
big risk but I think what I really want is the truth.  I will get the truth 
in his response or lack of response.
 
When you bare your soul to someone I believe truth will come back.  I don't 
care anymore what the response is because I have been living with fantasies 
about him and I just want the truth.  It would be nice to think he would be 
open to talking to me about this but I know that won't be the case.
 
Another strange twist in this story is that I did his astrological chart 
just after my "K" experience and I noticed a time in the near future, 
August '99 that shows what might be fatal transits around him.  He has a 
square natally of Venus/Saturn in Scorpio squaring Pluto in Leo.  Next Aug. 
'99, Uranus will be making a T-square out of that when it moves through 
Aquarius near these natal planets.  My Mars squares all these points in 
Taurus.  While I am drawn to communicate with him and heal something from 
the past, I also fear that by doing this it could be the catalyst for him 
to commit suicide.  Venus is also his ruling planet as his rising sign is 
Libra (like mine).
 
The grief I was flooded with for three years also revealed past life 
memories of him commiting suicide.  I found out the very next day in that 
life and also killed myself.  This is why when the grief began in this 
life, it felt as if he had just died yesterday.  The yesterday was in our 
last life together.  I had never mourned his death or gone to his funeral. 
For a couple of years I had been obsessed with the fact that I had missed 
his funeral.  This was in March '96 when I became so disoriented that I no 
longer knew whether I was living in the past, present or future.  I wanted 
to kill myself.  A therapist I was seeing at that time suggested I have a 
funeral as a way of satisfying this obsession I had with having missed his.
 
On the way home from her office that day I remember having this talk with 
God.  I said I was going to the cemetary and I wanted to see a sign that I 
was supposed to be mourning his death in this way because I felt as if I 
was going crazy.  I asked very specifically to see a gravestone with this 
man's name on it.  The cemetary was quite old and large.  I drove around 
inside for quite a while before feeling led to park on a corner near a 
large tree.  I spent about an hour visiting with different stones, crying 
and apologizing to this man for missing his funeral.  I told him how much I 
loved and missed him and that I was truly sorry for whatever I did to push 
him toward his death (if anything).  I did feel a sense of completion at 
that point.  As I walked back to my car, I felt an urge to walk around back 
and look down.  There within two feet of my back tire, was three stones all 
bearing his last name.  I had never received such a powerful sign like that.
 
So this man and I have been through a lot.  I have been told by psychics 
that it would not be healthy for us to get involved in this life.  That is 
probably true.  I wish I knew whether it was a good idea to even try to 
talk to him.  I do not want his death on my conscious again.
 
Is there anyone on this list who is skilled at astrology and might be able 
to look at our charts to confirm what I think is true?
 
Dhyani 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 18:56:02 -0700 
From: freda <fredaATnospamnwlink.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: RE: I just sent email to my twin soul 
Message-ID: <358DB9B2.6AA9ATnospamnwlink.com> 
 
Dhyani 
your question: 
>  
> Is there anyone on this list who is skilled at astrology and might be able 
> to look at our charts to confirm what I think is true?
 
gives me goose bumps.... looking for someone to "confirm what you  think 
is true..."
 
there is ALWAYS someone gonna confirm for you.... whatever you want 
confirmed...  
you lookin for confirmation,,,, yur gonna get it.... 
.......need to be careful however cause guess what?   
he's a god too,,  
and his will is equal to yours.... spooky,,, but true... 
 
nobody is resopnsibe for nobody but themselves...  
and we're all responsible for each other.... spooky, again... but 
true... 
 
your past presnt and future is NOT written in the heavens,,,,  
you create it as you go,,, the knowingness of the heavens.. may have 
influence,,,  
you have free will.... you ARE god..... the heavens are your creation 
...  
not just spooky, scarry even!
 
just speakin' from personal observation...  
maybe it works diffrent for others... 
but... this seems par for me...  
dont get me wrong,,,  
nobody screws this part up 
better than me....  
really, I'm an expert,,, :) at screwin' up that is... 
duh... listen to me... Im just a baby here... 
spoutin' off,,  
even in my emagined ignorance.... 
sendin' ..a rainbow... to love you... 
freda 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:27:49 EDT 
From: Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com 
To: kmgATnospamtaconic.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Headaches 
Message-ID: <a0055e7d.358dc126ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-06-21 09:00:58 EDT, kmgATnospamtaconic.net writes:
 
<< I began seeing a chiropractor about my shoulder and back  
 problems and I realized two weeks later that I hadn't had a headache  
 since my first visit, although the headaches were not the reason I had  
 gone for chiropractic treatment.  I spoke with my chiropractor about this  
 and he said that many headaches are caused by spinal subluxation, a  
 chiropractic term which basically refers to blocked or compressed nerves  
 and energy pathways in the spinal column.  >>
 
Dear Marybeth,
 
Thanks for the very inspiring letter!!!  It was great to hear this coming from 
a patient's perspective.  
 
I am a Chiropractor in VA Beach, VA, and my practice is a principle based 
chiropractic practice.  That means that I practice with a philosophy that the 
body is a self healing and self regulating organism and the nervous system is 
the master system and control of the body.  Several years ago when I had a 
major Kundalini awakening, I thought I was going to die.  I was so scared that 
I did not know what was happening to me and abandoned trust in my body's 
healing ability.  I went to see a MD would could not find anything wrong with 
me.  That was when I realized that I have the power with in me to heal myself. 
It took some time, but with chiroptactic adjustments, I was able to move 
through this period of transition with greater ease.  So now, when my patients 
are going through their awakening , I know how to help them through mentally, 
physically and Spiritually.
 
Thanks again for sharing your story!! 
 
LovePassion 
Mark  
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 22:48:44 EDT 
From: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com 
To: sassiATnospamworldnet.att.net 
Cc: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: digeriedoo 
Message-ID: <b4f2b8a.358dc60dATnospamaol.com> 
 
Jack,
 
I got this back and do not know why. 
 
I was in Sedona at a workshop called the Awakening in April and they played 
the didgeridoo and I also bought a cd from them and the woman said her husband 
made them too. Here is his email address.  asmithATnospamtheriver.com   I love the CD 
called Clarion, A Call to Awaken.   I am a massage therapist and the cd is 
very healing for me and my clients. 
 
The didgeridoo is also supposed to resonate with the earth's tone. I read that 
in an article recently. 
 
Hope this helps,
 
Barbara 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 21:07:30 -0600 
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> 
To: Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com, kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Headaches 
Message-ID: <358DCA6C.FE95DB55ATnospamwtp.net> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; x-mac-creator="4D4F5353" 
 
I stopped myself from responding to this topic earlier. But after your 
letter, Mark, I felt compelled to reply.
 
> That was when I realized that I have the power with in me to heal myself. 
> It took some time, but with chiroptactic adjustments, I was able to move 
> through this period of transition with greater ease.  So now, when my patients 
> are going through their awakening , I know how to help them through mentally, 
> physically and Spiritually. 
> 
Yes, we do have the power to heal ourselves. I think I started awakening 
back in 1988 when I was 23. Started with all these weird physical 
symptoms that couldn't be diagnosed. I had a major problem with inflamed 
joints, particularly with the feet and knees. Had recurring lower back 
problems. Sinus headaches. Night sweats. I could deal with everything 
except the inflammation.
 
I had been taking antiinflammatory drugs to ease the pain of the 
inflammation, which was diagnosed as arthritis. Taking medicine bothered 
me. I really felt like I didn't have arthritis. My blood test couldn't 
confirm that I had it. All it could confirm was that I didn't have lupus 
or gout or anything else. Since arthritis is inflammation of the joints, 
that's what they called it. When I asked my doctor if there was anything 
I could do to heal myself, he suggested I go to a support group. Knew I 
didn't want to go talk about my arthritis--that wouldn't cure me.
 
A short time after that, I started seeing a chiropractor, mainly for my 
back. About a month into treatments, I decided that I would quit my 
horse pills. To my surprise, I no longer had inflammed joints. My 
arthritis was cured!
 
I'm not sure exactly how chripractic adjustments work. My sense is that 
it opens up blocked pathways.
 
Since that time, I have become much more aware of my body and do 
proactive yoga stretches and exercise to keep myself in tiptop shape.
 
I firmly believe that my maladies were a result of my awakening. Sure 
was glad to have a chiropractor to help me ease the physical 
adjustments.
 
Mark, it sounds like you have found your calling. Good to hear from you!
 
Nancy 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 17:16:54 -1000 (HST) 
From: Judy <Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <199806220316.RAA27259ATnospamhaleakala.aloha.net>
 
Strangest thing about this mail list...every time I turn around it seems like people are taking words out of my mouth.  I love it!
 
Mark...chiropractic also played a big part in my life (actually about one year after I left VA Beach in the early '70's.  I was having severe colon problems and went to see an MD.  After extensive tests, he wanted to operate a put a bag on me. Being in my early 20's at the time, I wasn't going for it and went to see another MD for a second opinion.  He concurred with the first MD.  Then I went to a chiropractor for about 3 months regularly.  Haven't had any problems with my colon since.  God Bless Him!  I am much more in tune with my body now.  The only difficult part (I have moved quite a few times) is findinga chiropractor who will listen to me when I tell him/her where the blockage is.  I found a great one (who listened) in Phoenix; however, I have moved again...so here I go searching again!  We do heal ourselves, but it's nice to have little help occasionally.
 
Judy  
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 20:30:45 -0700 
From: Tim <timATnospamsbinfo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center  
Message-Id: <3.0.5.32.19980621203045.007aa1d0ATnospamsbinfo.com> 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
 
I was at a chiropractor getting worked on.   During the massage i had a 
majore obe.  and the energy travelled through out my body as a blue light 
coming out of a vortex.   now at yoga i can resume this state almost at 
will.   Love those chiropractors
 
At 05:16 PM 6/21/98 -1000, you wrote: 
>Strangest thing about this mail list...every time I turn around it seems 
like people are taking words out of my mouth.  I love it! 
> 
>Mark...chiropractic also played a big part in my life (actually about one 
year after I left VA Beach in the early '70's.  I was having severe colon 
problems and went to see an MD.  After extensive tests, he wanted to 
operate a put a bag on me. Being in my early 20's at the time, I wasn't 
going for it and went to see another MD for a second opinion.  He concurred 
with the first MD.  Then I went to a chiropractor for about 3 months 
regularly.  Haven't had any problems with my colon since.  God Bless Him! 
I am much more in tune with my body now.  The only difficult part (I have 
moved quite a few times) is findinga chiropractor who will listen to me 
when I tell him/her where the blockage is.  I found a great one (who 
listened) in Phoenix; however, I have moved again...so here I go searching 
again!  We do heal ourselves, but it's nice to have little help occasionally. 
> 
>Judy  
> 
> 
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 01:43:21 -0400 
From: "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com> 
To: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com>, "Samuel Abebe" <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>, 
 k-list <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Anybody have experience with Raja-Yoga? 
Message-ID: <199806220143_MC2-40E6-8970ATnospamcompuserve.com> 
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Hello All, (Esp. Lobster and Samuel)
 
Samuel wrote:
 
>>What I found very useful is a combination of a mental, physical and 
>emotional state. Which are, an empty mind, a relaxed body and what I term 
>"grateful emotion." individually, each of these states are very beneficial 
>collectively however, they accelerate the process of transformation. Of 
>course one can write several volumes on each of these states, specially 
>regarding an empty mind. They are not that difficult when they are 
practiced 
>properly. 
>
 
>Lobster wrote in reply: 
> 
>Good advice. Simple :-) 
>There are many ways to create each of these balances. The tranquil or 
empty 
>mind is very much enhanced through meditation and other mind stilling. The 
>relaxed body through physical expression and body healing. The grateful 
>emotion through Devotion, Love and Surrender. 
>You could convince yourself that they will just arrive . . . or you can 
work 
>towards them.
 
Thanks very much for the advice.   Alas, each answer begets another 
question!
 
It is becoming apparent to me that meditation can somehow regulate the 
effects of K. It seems like spontaneous K without other guiding factors 
leads to mental/emotional discomfort.   
 
This make me think that the 'three pronged' method Samuel and Lobster talk 
about above is just the balm to sooth these wounds.   Then I wonder what 
constitutes 'practiced properly'?  Perhaps you could 'enlighten' me (Ha!).
 
Meditation - When meditating I can suppress my thoughts for a while (I'm 
not sure how long, I lose track of time) then a thought pops up.  After a 
short while I realize that it is there (and I don't want it).  I make it go 
away and try to stay blank again.  Sure enough another pops up and I go 
through this cycle again.    Am I supposed to examine the thoughts that 
come up or let them run their course and die on their own.   Should I try 
to keep the mind blank?  Patanjali states in II  11'By meditation their 
gross modifications are to be rejected'.  Vivekananda interprets this as 
subduing the mind waves until keeping them subdued is automatic (even while 
not meditating)  'thus anger and hatred are controlled and checked'.    Am 
I doing the right thing?   The question is' what is the goal of meditation' 
- self examination or mind suppression or both?  Should their be an object 
of meditation (something to focus on) or focus on the empty mind? Perhaps 
strengthening concentration is the only goal here...   What are the objects 
of concentration/meditation at each of the steps along the way (in simple 
terms...)  I wish that I really knew how this magic works.   It would clear 
some 'blocking' doubts.
 
"The relaxed body through physical expression and body healing"  - OK, I've 
long had the relaxation part down, but what do you mean by 'physical 
expression and body healing'?   By 'physical expression' are you refering 
to very relaxed body language and general relaxed state?  This would go 
along with keeping the mind calm...   What about 'body healing'?   Is this 
physically (through earthly means) or by 'projecting health, love and 
healing' to you own and others bodies?
 
As for 'grateful emotion' - is this 'thankful for all lessons and just to 
be here' - a positive, thankful frame of mind?
 
I know that doing things properly always helps achieve the desired goal 
sooner and more smoothly.   I also know that 'all roads lead to Rome' 
(eventually).   I just want to get on the road with the shortest travel, If 
not with a map in hand, at least with some suggestions from people who are 
walking - I'm still crawling,  I want to walk too!
 
Thanks in advance for what I know will be thoughtful replies! 
By the way Lobster, your web pages are great! 
And thanks to all for taking the time!
 
Peace, 
Chuck 
Date: Sun, 21 Jun 1998 23:06:43 +0100 
From: "Lobster" <lobsterATnospamdial.pipex.com> 
To: "Samuel Abebe" <sabebeATnospamrtinews.com>, 
 "Chuck O'Connell" <ChuckOConnellATnospamcompuserve.com> 
Cc: <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Anybody have experience with Raja-Yoga? 
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>>Hi Samuel, 
>>Good advice. Simple :-) 
>>There are many ways to create each of these balances. The tranquil or 
empty 
>>mind is very much enhanced through meditation and other mind stilling. The 
>>relaxed body through physical expression and body healing. The grateful 
>>emotion through Devotion, Love and Surrender. 
> 
> 
>Couldn't agree more with you.  Which ever way one goes about it, the 
>combination seems to do the magic.  That was my message. 
> 
>>You could convince yourself that they will just arrive . . . or you can 
>work 
>>towards them. 
> 
>Please talk more about what you mean here. 
> 
>Have Fun! 
> 
>Samuel
 
Hi Samuel. 
For those undergoing sporadic, undisciplined and uncalled for experiences 
that they align with 'K', there are several options. Riding the storm - 
acceptance is one. However the most effective is to stabilise the swings in 
the three bodies (mental, emotional and physical). I am guilty of neglecting 
my physical vehicle but have worked hard to correct this imbalance. Other 
people may have emotional swings or mental states that are unusual and 
difficult to cope with. 
Now people think it is only spiritual practice that will create balance. 
However their are many systems of physical health enhancement to choose 
from. Martial arts are one of the most rounded systems and develop balance 
in mind, body and emotions if the style is genuine. For the emotions the key 
is relaxation and there are hypnotic tapes and videos (some are rubbish - 
some outstanding - you will need to enquire) that produce very tranquil and 
healing mind states. 
For mind balancing there are many forms of group work and counselling that 
give insight into the individual and enhance ones understanding. 
What is important is balance and a stable core. From this we can allow the 
various states to 'happen' and are less likely to be swamped by their 
excesses.
 
Be Well 
Lobster 
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 15:03:36 +0800 
From: Hajeed <habATnospamtelekom.com.my> 
To: "kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com" <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Does anybody have experience with LAMA-Yoga? 
Message-ID: <01BD9DEE.EF451060ATnospamc01ws163.s01ws01.dom>
 
Hi There!
 
Just joined this list. 
Does anybody have experience with Lhama YOGA? 
Long time ago, I knew a little intro of Lhama YOGA taught 
by ASTARA School of Psychic, California. The objective of 
this yogic exercises is to wake up the KUNDALINI source 
located at the base chakra (tail bone). The meditation uses 
visualization method (if I'm not mistaken) to bring up the 
KUNDALINI. So does anybody out there have experience on this?
 
Hajeed. 
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 1998 06:57:44 EDT 
From: Rnegade34ATnospamaol.com 
To: NancyATnospamwtp.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: Headaches 
Message-ID: <b1999a04.358e38a9ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 98-06-21 23:02:56 EDT, NancyATnospamwtp.net writes:
 
<< I'm not sure exactly how chripractic adjustments work. My sense is that 
 it opens up blocked pathways. >>
 
Dear Nancy,
 
Sound to me like you know exactly how Chiropractic works, probably better then 
alot of Chiropractors....LOL
 
Thanks for sharing and you're right, I have found my calling and my passion.
 
LovePassion 
Mark
 
 
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