1998/06/17  07:01  
 kundalini-l-d Digest V98 #461 
  
kundalini-l-d Digest				Volume 98 : Issue 461
 
Today's Topics: 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ antares <antaresATnospamneuron.net> ] 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ Faith Cuthrell <suncrystal1ATnospamyahoo.c ] 
  Re: Strange Question                  [ "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail. ] 
  the boss                              [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ] 
  Re: Flowering                         [ Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> ] 
  Poem Feedback Welcome!                [ vcooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> ] 
  Strange List Activity                 [ Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> ] 
  Re: Strange List Activity             [ ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com ] 
  Re: Strange List Activity             [ David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> ] 
  Caro's intro-a lurker speaks          [ caroline wilson <myspecial1ATnospamyahoo.c ] 
  subscribe                             [ Caroline Wilson <myspecial2ATnospamyahoo.c ] 
  Re: Strange List Activity             [ Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpent ] 
  Personal kundalini experience         [ esther steinacher <esther.steinache ] 
  RE: Strange List Activity             [ "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> ] 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
  Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource  [ Faith Cuthrell <suncrystal1ATnospamyahoo.c ] 
  RE: Strange List Activity             [ Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic ] 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 18:19:31 -0400 
From: antares <antaresATnospamneuron.net> 
To: Marsha & Stephen <kandulATnospamg-net.net> 
Cc: Jude1ATnospamwebtv.net, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <19980616181931.52113ATnospamneuron.net> 
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On 16 Jun 1998, Marsha & Stephen <kandulATnospamg-net.net> wrote: 
> confusing and inconvenient.  I call them my "no pain migranes", although 
> they are not like a migrane as it is NOT a tunnel vision type effect.
 
i, my mother, and one of my friends all get these up to a few times a 
year, though we all experience them differently.  all three of us get 
something thats sort of black, grey & silver glittery geometric granular 
looking.  my mother gets her entire field of vision covered & gets 
migranes.  my friend gets spots right in the middle of her eyes but no 
pain or pressure.  i get these amoeboid pseudopoddy shapes filled with 
them that start in from the outer periphery and slowly close in, though 
they've never been at the center of my vision, combined with a lot of 
pressure, though rarely pain.  i don't know what they are but they are 
unnerving. 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:55:41 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Faith Cuthrell <suncrystal1ATnospamyahoo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-ID: <19980616225541.29750.rocketmailATnospamsend1c.yahoomail.com> 
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migraines that don't hurt are called Scintillating Schetomas 
 I get them occasionally. the field of vision changing and seeing odd 
shapes is the telling factor
 
I have wondered for YEARS if these things aren;t kundalini instead of 
a medical condition
 
I experience migrianes as a snake walking up my back and biting me. 
then the headache and visual problems start 
Faith 
---antares <antaresATnospamneuron.net> wrote: 
> 
> On 16 Jun 1998, Marsha & Stephen <kandulATnospamg-net.net> wrote: 
> > confusing and inconvenient.  I call them my "no pain migranes", 
although 
> > they are not like a migrane as it is NOT a tunnel vision type 
effect. 
>  
> i, my mother, and one of my friends all get these up to a few times a 
> year, though we all experience them differently.  all three of us get 
> something thats sort of black, grey & silver glittery geometric 
granular 
> looking.  my mother gets her entire field of vision covered & gets 
> migranes.  my friend gets spots right in the middle of her eyes but no 
> pain or pressure.  i get these amoeboid pseudopoddy shapes filled with 
> them that start in from the outer periphery and slowly close in, 
though 
> they've never been at the center of my vision, combined with a lot of 
> pressure, though rarely pain.  i don't know what they are but they are 
> unnerving. 
>  
> 
 
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 16:56:19 PDT 
From: "Joseph Miller" <joemillerATnospamhotmail.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Cc: sruddATnospambible.ca 
Subject: Re: Strange Question 
Message-ID: <19980616235620.19707.qmailATnospamhotmail.com> 
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Steve Rudd wrote:
 
Is Mahamandaleshwar Swami Nityananda the most powerful living Kundalini  
Guru today?
 
Who else would you name as the most powerful Kundalini leader today that  
is still living? 
____________
 
Steve,
 
At the risk of coming across as a little rude: 
 
    What the hell kind of question is that?
 
This is not a race (which Guru is the fastest), a contest (could your  
Guru dunk over MJ?), or anything of the sort. 
 
A powerful, wonderful, and highly knowledgable Guru may be totally  
incorrect for a given person. This can happen if the teacher is not  
versed in all of the ways of spiritual advancement or has so many  
responsibilities he/she can't give personal attention to each student to  
guide a given student on the best path for that particular student. It  
can also be true if their personalities are so different the student  
can't focus on the teachings for their differences.
 
Besides based on what I've observed in my visits to India, the most  
knowledgable teachers (knowledge not being from books but from  
experience), hence the truly powerful ones don't a hoot about fame. So  
if we had a way to measure it we probably wouldn't have heard of the  
"most powerful" one.
 
Namaste,
 
Joe
 
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Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:07:00 -0700 
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: the boss 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980616130953.006c022cATnospampop.sonic.net> 
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>vc quoted Krishnamurti: 
> 
>........There is completion only in flowering and dying.... 
> 
>amckeon writes: 
> 
>.......Does that mean that I can let thoughts of strangling my boss  
>	flower and die? 
 
Er, well, yes, why not? Run it as a fantasy. Put him in Orc armor and roll 
for initative. :-)
 
Let the energies do their thing, then they will finish/die. I'll bet, bad 
ones will pop and vanish, good ones will come up from seed like the phoenix.
 
Need to run it all the way,tho, imagine really succeeding. What happens 
next day (after the whole town gives you a medal :-)?  ("Ding dong the boss 
is dead!")  
What would life be like without him?
 
MIght even end up with some energy for looking for a better job....
 
Mary 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 15:07:02 -0700 
From: Mary Ezzell <maryATnospamsonic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Flowering 
Message-Id: <3.0.32.19980616125847.006c022cATnospampop.sonic.net> 
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At 08:40 PM 6/15/98 EDT, ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> vc quoted Krishnamurti: 
>  
> ........There is completion only in flowering and dying.... 
> 
/long snip/ 
>  
> I looked slowly all around me.  I couldn't see real good as just my head was 
>sticking out of the ground.  
 
Well, at some point, the other sprouts under the ground probably said you 
*had* died, because they couldn't see you any more.
 
> (and then you die)
 
Kind of like bubbles rising up from teh bottom of a pond, through layers of 
mud. The thicker is at the bottom. AT teh very top, the bubble bursts -- 
the air inside joins the upper air. People watching call it 'death' but the 
air knows better.
 
If there are lots of layers of mud and moss ... the same 
expand/flower/merge thing could happen over and over....
 
TRaditionally they talk about death being dropping off the physical body 
and continuing in the astral body ... then the astral drops off and they 
continue in teh subtle body.... and so on.
 
There's a lot about this in Theosophy.
 
 
Mary 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 18:38:57 -0800 
From: vcooper <madammumATnospamptialaska.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Poem Feedback Welcome! 
Message-ID: <35887DBB.2CCATnospamptialaska.net> 
 
DREAM STATE
 
I'm working on my soul in dream time, digging through the rubble of 
desires & screaming monkeys of delusions 
falling 
falling 
falling 
away aways.
 
Another daydream touches my soul with grace momentarilly entertwining in 
compassion & hopes for a brighter future then freezes a frame, going 
back 
rewinding 
rewinding 
rewinding 
away aways.
 
Always earthen gargoyles presiding over rubble ruins in space & time we 
blink an eye & never listen to our inner voices fraught with fears & 
anger 
falling 
falling 
falling 
aways away.
 
Knowing how to fly in dream state; controlling forces, making choices, 
setting boundaries, forgiving self-inflicted wounds remaining still & 
hurt & unforgotten 
rewinding 
rewinding 
rewinding 
aways away.
 
There is no virtue inherent without the struggle towards buoyancy & self 
realization.
 
c.1998 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:04:34 -0600 
From: Nancy <NancyATnospamwtp.net> 
To: kundalini-1 <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Strange List Activity 
Message-ID: <3587323A.70A79456ATnospamwtp.net> 
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What's up with this list?
 
For a week or more straight, I have been bombarded with a plethora of 
confrontational and controversial messages. Everything from sex-kitten 
spam to razzes on the Avatar. I was having to check my messages every 
few hours just to keep up. I never kept track, but I'm sure that I was 
receiving 40+ messages daily.
 
Now, silence. A trickle of a gentle words ease into my mailbox on 
occasion.
 
What's going on? Is everyone spent from the last round? Have all those 
with k crazies found peace at last? Has the Avatar ascended? Has Paul 
found peace at last? This is very strange...
 
Nancy 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 23:38:30 EDT 
From: ImtgxxxATnospamaol.com 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: Strange List Activity 
Message-ID: <84c6d936.35873a38ATnospamaol.com> 
 
In a message dated 6/16/98 11:00:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time, NancyATnospamwtp.net 
writes:
 
<< What's going on? Is everyone spent from the last round? Have all those 
 with k crazies found peace at last? Has the Avatar ascended? Has Paul 
 found peace at last >>
 
This and more....  Stay tuned for the next episode of "As The Kundalini Rises"
 
xxxtg
 
* While travelling the other day, I passed the "Jehovah's Witness Assembly 
Hall" and           	was struck by the fact that that must be where they make 
them *
 
http://members.aol.com/Teeegeee/tgsplace.html   <~~~~ on the web now! 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:17:19 -0400 
From: David Bozzi <david.bozziATnospamsnet.net> 
To: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Strange List Activity 
Message-ID: <3587434E.1643820EATnospammail.snet.net> 
 
Nancy wrote:
 
> What's up with this list?
 
(snip)
 
> I was 
> receiving 40+ messages daily. 
> Now, silence. A trickle of a gentle words ease into my mailbox on 
> occasion. 
> What's going on?
 
The full moon has past. 
Yes. There *is* a correlation. 
The water simmers but will come to a full boil again. 
(just you wait and see) 
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 1998 21:26:46 -0700 (PDT) 
From: caroline wilson <myspecial1ATnospamyahoo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com, lobakolaATnospamcsr.net 
Subject: Caro's intro-a lurker speaks 
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Saturday 13 June 1998
 
Hello Loba kola, 
Hello K-listers 
I read some of your emails to the K-list that you wrote back in late 
April - your intro's and rocks and lucid dreaming, I am glued to your 
letters with fascination and it made me laugh so much - joy to read 
your stories, you made me cackle right down to my core. I can relate 
to quite a few of your experiences the rocks, horses, dreams and all! 
especially the dreams.
 
When I was a kid I used to walk in my sleep, have waking nightmares, 
fly in dreams with my bother in and around this old cottage we lived 
in with my mum, (we were also haunted by ghosties in this house - 
later).  
My nightmares went on for years, when I was about 9 or 10 years old I 
had quite a lot of them. Each one was different but all of them felt 
like I was stuck in half wake half sleep hallucinating off my head and 
in terror not being able to wake up, it would sometimes take 2 or more 
hours for me to come around to reality and mum would have to keep me 
home from school until I woke up. I don't have these anymore gladly. 
  
I have always paid attention to my dreams and know what you mean when 
you talk about different dream states of conciosness. 
I have expeienced the same deep sleep state that paralyses my body, 
unable to move or breath, that I think i'm going to suffocate.  
I got better at handling this state of dreaming and in my early 20's 
started to be able to relax and start to think and act conciously in 
my dreams , I realised I could create my dream adventure and move 
about in it better by being creative in trust in myself and, unable to 
do anything in fear=paralysed. I was going to art scool at the time 
studying painting mainly - a year later I started learning meditation, 
started to see colours around people, haunted by new ghosts and 
sometimes voices talking to me .
 
 I could not always do it relax that is in this deep sleep dream 
paralysed state, out of body, different world dimesion, but when I got 
paralysed like you said and was flaoting above my bed, I would 
desperately be trying to wake up and would sometimes start dreaming I 
was going through the motions and be getting up out of bed slapping my 
own legs to feel my body and thinking yeah I am awake now, walk to my 
bedroom door and walk into the hallway but something was wrong with 
the house it was a different  shape or there was a window where there 
was a wall and then I knew I was still asleep in my dream and I would 
sometimes go on like this for 5 times becoming stuck in this ''Ground 
Hog Day" scenario until I became exausted and unattatched to this 
dream and become a bit more conscious again and a voice says like give 
up this dream you are doing it.  
 I fall down or fall backwards and back into my body. I wake up slowly 
like i've been drugged, sweating and just starting to breath again 
like I had not been for ages, thank God I am finally really awake in 
my real room, and I am just blown out how powerful my dream state is 
and how once i'm awake how I could of been so scared.  
When I lived alone for a few months (4 years ago) on the edge of a 
National Park on the South Coast I started flying again and having 
these suffocating dreams again, but I got quite good at falling 
backwards back into my body with a "whoomf"!\ 
Once I dreamt I was flying above the escarpment (top of the rigde) 
skimming the tops of the trees, which was behind my house about 1 
kilometre walk up steep rugged side of it (I used to walk up the old 
waterfall which has the largest round odd shape bolders i've ever seen 
some three or four  times the size a human) back to the dream- while I 
was flying up in the tree tops I could feel the breeze in my face and 
blow in between the hairs on my arms the earthy scent of forest, then 
I started falling down through the trees quicker and colder it got 
then all these sea birds came under me and I floated down on their 
wings into my room back in bed and on the wall is a big wheel-circle 
luminous and turning almost like fire it fades and I slowly woke up 
lying on my back with my hands crossed over my heart ...stillness  
..cold house sadness filled me I felt I had fallen from grace. 
I often dream about horses I rode as child and teenager, Sally she was 
a white stock horse  a farm horse kept with a herd of others for 
moving sheep and cattle. And Charlie he was quarter horse who was bay 
brown white star on his forehead and black maine and tail and frisky 
Sunny who was all chestnut thick hair  from the cold air. 
I dreamt I was riding Charlie galloping along in the open paddock and 
Sally comes galloping even faster than even we were going and almost 
knocks us out. 
Charlie was the most gentle and smartest of all the horses I rode, I 
was very sad when he died in my mid teens. Some years later I found 
his skull in the paddock they left him in. 
I guess this is getting a bit long so i'll stop for, now write up some 
more later 
I'm a Virgo with Aquarius moon, my boyfriend is an Aquarian one of 
those ones that can do anything he tries. 
Would love to hear some responses 
Hugs and love 
Caroline
 
 
 
 
 
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 00:43:51 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Caroline Wilson <myspecial2ATnospamyahoo.com> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: subscribe 
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17/6/98 
from Australia 
Dear K list 
I have just got a new email address because the other one was being 
clogged up with k mail, and I don't seem to have gotten any new mail 
except one message in the last month or so perhaps this is due to the 
fact I had exceed the mail quota and yahoo would not accept any more 
emails to me . 
I have been sending a few emails (out of the lurky depths and into the 
forum)lately and never see them on the klist nor does anyone write 
back to me ? except heart beating Scott? 
I have sent a new message today to k-list and loba kola  however am 
not sure of k's email address is kundalini-l a lower case L or a 
number one? 
Also can you tell me has loba kola a new email address? 
I would really appreciate this. 
Thanks 
huggy bear  
Caroline
 
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 02:19:25 -0700 
From: Mystress Angelique Serpent <serpentATnospamdomin8rex.com> 
To: david.bozziATnospamsnet.net 
Cc: Kundalini <kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com> 
Subject: Re: Strange List Activity 
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  Yes, we get a few days calm building energy before the storm..spring 
solstice on Sunday.  
  Blessings, Mystress.
 
At 12:17 AM 17/06/98 -0400, David Bozzi wrote: 
>The full moon has past. 
>Yes. There *is* a correlation. 
>The water simmers but will come to a full boil again. 
>(just you wait and see) 
> 
> 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 22:14:55 +0500 
From: esther steinacher <esther.steinacherATnospamxtra.co.nz> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Personal kundalini experience 
Message-ID: <3587F98F.6787ATnospamxtra.co.nz> 
 
My personal experience of Kundalini came after a two year search, but  
I did not know that this would happen, had very little guidence, none  
on Kundalini, did not know what it was. It started with learning to  
remember my dreams, and certainly after a time, I had a few that were  
quite disturbing, like being at my own funeral, and others of a  
spiritual nature, which I found interesting, because I would not of  
called myself spiritual or religious at the time. I found a book on  
selfhypnosis and used the techniques for achieving deep states of  
relaxation and trance, where I had visions of things I could not have  
created with my own mind. This kindled my search with more interest  
and passion. I decided that if I had always been alternating from  
positiv and happy to negative and heavy emotions like anger, that I  
would try to exorcise these heavier emotions from my being, which I  
practised every moment I needed to, checking myself at frustration and  
returning to peace. I would compete with myself to see how long I  
could stay without a negative thought or feeling. I despised negativ  
thoughtpictures, like seeing a dog on the side of the road and then  
having the mind jump to seeing it run over, which never happened, but  
when seen as such, destroys the tranquility of mind. I used a mandala  
to effectivly block such images, which worked well. 
I practiced detachment and went into emotions and then stood back from  
them, looking at myself clinicly, it was about this time, something  
really strange started to happen. Coincidence and syncronisity started  
to manifest itself and although it was happening before I noticed, it  
increasing to such an extent, that my preconceived model of reality  
had to collapse, which it did, leaving me very frightened. It was at  
this time that I got in touch with a friend of a friend who was a yoga  
teacher at a ashram. I talked to him on the phone and he thought that  
he knew what was happening and asked me to visit. My wife and I went  
to his place, he was not there, but a neighbour said that he had  
called and said he would be late. She let us in and gave me the  
message that there was a book on the table I should read. I sat down  
and started to read. It was about Kundalini and the sort of things  
happening to me were all there. My wife turned the tv on, and there  
was an offbeat tv-programm about Kundalini. I was reading about it and  
watching about it at the same time and then I was crying and crying.  
My wife did not know what to make of it. Just then my now friend came  
home. He quickly assesed the situation asking my wife what was wrong.  
She told him and he came to me and gave me a big hug, which I needed  
badly. I had so many conflicting emotions and if I were to just detach  
now I would be high. I managed to calm down and begin to realise some  
framework with which I could hang the shreads of an old reality model  
and gain a little comfort. He said to me, that I should go to the  
ashram for a while to get my feet on the ground, which I did and left  
the ashram a couple of weeks later, bound for my parents place, the  
coincidences and synchronicity had not stopped and somewhere about  
here I heard temple bells. I hitchiked some 200 Km. At one stage after  
walking for about two kilometres the sound of birds, bees, crickets,  
grasshoppers all changed into beautiful music, that was not of this  
plane. My walk turned into a march and with a heavy pack, I walked the  
soles of my feet off, I finally got to my folks place, and two days  
later went to see a doctor. I entered his office crying, asking Christ  
for his forgiveness, and a voice said, here is your crown. A warm  
feeling started at my solarplexus, which quickly turned into white  
harsh vibratory electricity, which I became one with. I came to on the  
floor about to be carried out by four psychiatric nurses. I made a  
statement saying, I am a catholic priest, which I still find strange  
today. I was extremely high and this was only the middle of the  
experience,it went on with much psychic phenomena, most of it centred  
around asking me to believe and giving explanations to things that  
were about to happen which I would watch. I was repeatedly asked to  
believe and have faith and told to watch this event or that event. I  
was showen truth after truth and then came a dark night. I felt  
suspended over a huge void and could hear the roaring of a beast  
below. It was a test in faith, which I failed and a woman's voice  
screamed: stonewell! As I seemed to shift dimensions, all phenomena  
ceased. No voices, no music, horrible nightmares began, I was sure I  
was going to die. My heart was beating so fast, it was sore. My whole  
reality turned into a nightmare, really really frightening. Into the  
hospital for me, which turned on a display of horrible scenes to long  
to explain. I knew I had screwed it up, I had doubted myself, but now  
there was no doubts. I was experiencing an opposite of all that had  
been, finally after a long while healing, I could begin my ascent  
again, this time a lot stronger. My battles fall away to experience  
and I climb rapidly and well to a instrumental union with the  
creator, which threatens to blow my mind again. The experience is  
extreme to say the least after 15 years I still have not been able to  
come to grips with it. I conciously have to keep my feet on the  
ground. I have a responsible job, I find I have to function under my  
optimum level of stimulation for fear of getting high and not being  
able to perform. To be sincere in prayer and practise sends me high,  
so I don't, which gives me terrible anxity.I love my God but to  
approach is to be consumed forever yours  Earle 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 12:09:31 +0100 
From: "jb" <hc19436ATnospamautovia.com> 
To: "K. list" <kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com> 
Subject: RE: Strange List Activity 
Message-ID: <000001bd99e0$673b3760$706335c3ATnospamjb> 
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Nancy wrote: 
> What's up with this list? 
><snip> 
> What's going on? Is everyone spent from the last round? Have all those 
> with k crazies found peace at last? Has the Avatar ascended? Has Paul 
> found peace at last? This is very strange...
 
Jan: 
I was just getting used to the large quantity of mail, downloading three 
times a day. 
If the moon has got something to do with it, activity is to decline until 
June 24th. However, it is the beginning of holiday-season. Then, there 
probably are some aficionados of the WC soccer. What I consider strange is 
that now, on one account I receive letters from the list that are not 
received on the other account. Sometimes, a letter refers to a letter I 
didn't receive on any of the accounts. As ISP's here are not too reliable, I 
have two. If mail bounces, automatic unsubscription follows but this hasn't 
happened. So it is strange indeed. 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:25:50 -0500 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
Message-Id: <l03010d13b1ad5779b6d2ATnospam[207.71.50.225]> 
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>judy writes: 
> 
> 1. Strange white and gold geometric type shapes that take over my field of 
>vision for no known reason unexpectedly.  There is no pain, but that 
>sometimes get so strong I cannot clearly see anything else.  It usually 
>last for approx 15-20 minutes.  They're kind of neat to look at, but 
>confusing and inconvenient.  I call them my "no pain migranes", although 
>they are not like a migrane as it is NOT a tunnel vision type effect. 
> 
> 
>marsha: 
> 
>judy...me too.  i don't have a clue as to what this is...got my eyes 
>snip< 
> 
>so far just a few episodes...they last from 20 min to one hr.  i finally 
>just decided to relax and enjoy the show.  sorry . no answers, but
 
Ann:
 
Sounds like what I get once in a while.  My brother had migraines, and he 
says this is something that migraine sufferers often see before they get a 
headache.  They call it an "aura."  Now he's found a medicine that prevents 
his headaches, but he still sees auras. 
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 04:47:04 -0700 (PDT) 
From: Faith Cuthrell <suncrystal1ATnospamyahoo.com> 
To: MoonrisempATnospamaol.com, kundalini-lATnospamexecpc.com 
Subject: Re: AutoPost from Kundalini Resource Center 
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I definitely am sensitive to MSG, so yes this could be a part of it. 
when I had multiple episodes tho I wasn;t eating!!
 
this sensitivity to chemicals has increased greatly over the past 
seven years;cannot take shampoos, perfumes, etc around me...the 
migraines are infrequent if I am careful about food -and emotions and 
stress
 
recently did an herbal cleanse with cloves, garlic wormwood and black 
walnut-and kind while it was bad DURING i feel great now.
 
I am a reiki master-3 different systems-and while that has helped a 
great deal, it has not stopped the psychic expansion ( which is so 
similar to the migraines I have concluded migraines ARE energy rising 
in the body-getting stuck at points-if your third eye is functioning 
well it will actually swell which could cause headaches...)
 
and like some others here, I sure can;t see that enlightenment has 
tempered my ego at all....still just me with weird symtoms.
 
Those writing abut childhood experiences also interest me-did that 
too! and had weird tunnelk vision headaches I never told anyone about 
becasue I felt guilty if i was sick! 
Faith 
---MoonrisempATnospamaol.com wrote: 
> 
> Faith & others, 
>  
> I have had the same thing happen to me and find that sometimes, I 
can trace it 
> back to MSG. I have always been sensitive to additives in food and 
recently 
> had Chinese food that was loaded with MSG and had the "floaters" & 
geometric 
> shapes that glow and make it hard to see. They only last for 20-30 
minutes 
> with a sensation of dehydration for me. I have heard them called 
"silent 
> migraines".  
>  
> Hope this helps, 
> Barbara 
> 
 
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Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1998 06:47:37 -0500 
From: Ann Morrison Fisher <annfisherATnospamstic.net> 
To: kundalini-lATnospamlists.execpc.com 
Subject: RE: Strange List Activity 
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>Nancy wrote: 
>> What's up with this list? 
>><snip> 
>> What's going on? Is everyone spent from the last round? Have all those 
>> with k crazies found peace at last? Has the Avatar ascended? Has Paul 
>> found peace at last? This is very strange... 
> 
>Jan: 
>I was just getting used to the large quantity of mail, downloading three 
>times a day. 
>If the moon has got something to do with it, activity is to decline until 
>June 24th.
 
Ann: 
If you want to see if there's a correlation:
 
New moon: June 24, 3:50am GMT or June 23, 11:50pm Eastern Daylight Time. 
Full Moon:  July 9, 4:01pm GMT, 12:01pm EDT
 
Also, Angelique mentioned the solstice (Sun's ingress into Cancer). 
Solstice (Midsummer):  June 21, 2:03pm GMT, 10:03am EDT
 
 
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